Does a smartphone have an ultrasonic radio switch to turn it on and off?
Where?
ultrasonic just uses mic and speaker, not any radio
Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad
hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?
*Transferring data using high frequency audio*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/X7kTY-VLvnU>
Since I have iOS & Android devices, I'm going to look into this cross platform *ultrasonic* capability since it doesn't need Wi-Fi or cable.
So it's confusing, at least to someone who has never used it (like I).
Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the cloud, it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer connect.
Is it truly transferring files using an *ultrasonic* ad hoc network
between two devices?
Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the cloud,
it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer
connect.
it works by using wifi.
Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the cloud, >> it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer
connect.
it works by using wifi.
As I said, I was completely unaware of this ad hoc *ultrasonic* pairing
and, as I also said, I wish to test this feature out using my iPads.
Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the
cloud,
it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer >>>> connect.
it works by using wifi.
As I said, I was completely unaware of this ad hoc *ultrasonic* pairing
and, as I also said, I wish to test this feature out using my iPads.
what part of wifi is not clear?
I asked a simple question, which you obviously avoided answering...
With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection" to do the wifi pairing ... I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?
What's the advantage of ultrasonic negotiation of the initial ad hoc
network over the more common methods of initial ad hoc negotiations?
Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the cloud, >>>> it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer >>>> connect.
it works by using wifi.
As I said, I was completely unaware of this ad hoc *ultrasonic* pairing
and, as I also said, I wish to test this feature out using my iPads.
what part of wifi is not clear?
With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection" to do the wifi pairing ... I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?
again, what part of wifi is not clear?
chromecasts *can* use ultrasonic for *pairing* to use wifi, although
that's not the only method.
ultrasonic is *not* for file transfer, which as i said before is a
stupid idea.
you also originally asked about samsung switch, not chromecasts, so the
above is irrelevant to your question.
you claim to be be 'highly educated', even claiming to have a degree in electrical engineering, yet you do not know basic signal theory, or
english for that matter. is your diploma also a photo?
I asked a simple question, which you obviously avoided answering...
i answered it, and far more tactfully than you deserve.
With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection" to do the wifi >> > pairing ... I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?
again, what part of wifi is not clear?
chromecasts *can* use ultrasonic for *pairing* to use wifi, although
that's not the only method.
ultrasonic is *not* for file transfer, which as i said before is a
stupid idea.
you also originally asked about samsung switch, not chromecasts, so the
above is irrelevant to your question.
you claim to be be 'highly educated', even claiming to have a degree in electrical engineering, yet you do not know basic signal theory, or
english for that matter. is your diploma also a photo?
What's the advantage of ultrasonic negotiation of the initial ad hoc
network over the more common methods of initial ad hoc negotiations?
none.
nospam wrote:
I asked a simple question, which you obviously avoided answering...
i answered it, and far more tactfully than you deserve.
Hi nospam,
Hehhehheh... (your fear of the question is palpable indeed)...
As is the case always with you, you _deflected_ from answering the
question, which I will repeat is simply asking what iOS app exists
on the App Store that replicates the related Android functionality.
The fact you're so _desperate_ to insult me, which is fine by me, simply indicates how _afraid_ you are of something as simple as that question.
The more you (& Jolly Roger) insult people for asking technical questions
of iOS, the more I can tell how much abject _fear_ the question invokes.
You're literally _afraid_ of answering that simple question of iOS.
With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection" to do the wifi
pairing ... I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?
again, what part of wifi is not clear?
Again, you deflect since I made it rather clear we're talking about the negotiation part of the ad hoc network, not the wi-fi portion.
The more you deflect, the more I sense the fear in you of the question.
chromecasts *can* use ultrasonic for *pairing* to use wifi, although
that's not the only method.
ultrasonic is *not* for file transfer, which as i said before is a
stupid idea.
Again, nobody but you is talking at this point about file transfer; we're discussion the initial negotiation of the ad hoc network via ultrasound.
That you're so desperate to deflect from iOS indicates your rising fears.
you also originally asked about samsung switch, not chromecasts, so the
above is irrelevant to your question.
Almost all your responses, so far, in this thread, in fact, are the same responses you always elicit when you're _afraid_ of the question asked.
I can sense how much you fear the answer to the simple question of what iOS apps are in the App Store that replicate an ultrasound negotiation feature.
you claim to be be 'highly educated', even claiming to have a degree in
electrical engineering, yet you do not know basic signal theory, or
english for that matter. is your diploma also a photo?
What's different about a well-educated person who is confident in what he knows and in what he doesn't know, is I'm not afraid to admit when I err,
and I'm not afraid to admit I am new to any given topic - yet you are.
The fact you can't answer the simplest of questions that I asked multiple times of which free iOS apps replicates this Android functionality is yet another indicator that either you lack the knowledge you claim to own,
or, more likely, you're aware of something I'm not yet aware of, but which
is becoming more and more apparent by your abject fear of a simple query.
*What iOS apps exist today on the App Store that replicate this feature?*
What's the advantage of ultrasonic negotiation of the initial ad hoc
network over the more common methods of initial ad hoc negotiations?
none.
I asked that question on the _adult_ smartphone newsgroup, where the answer will be forthcoming, I'm sure, since they're not afraid of the question.
You are literally quaking right now, probably shivering in fear, simply because someone asked a simple question of what iOS apps exist which take advantage of the ultrasound ad hoc network negotiation feature we speak of.
*What App Store iOS apps exist today which perform this functionality?*
OMG. Arlen is a genuine imbecile.
And it is obvious where he was hoping to go with this. He wants to show that Android has an app for Ultrasonic File Transfer but - of course -
the crippled iOS does not.
In article <tofokq$751$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
As is the case always with you, you _deflected_ from answering the question, which I will repeat is simply asking what iOS app exists
on the App Store that replicates the related Android functionality.
...
*What iOS apps exist today on the App Store that replicate this feature?*
As is the case always with you, you _deflected_ from answering the
question, which I will repeat is simply asking what iOS app exists
on the App Store that replicates the related Android functionality.
With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection" to do the
wifi pairing ... I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?
again, what part of wifi is not clear?
Again, you deflect since I made it rather clear we're talking about the negotiation part of the ad hoc network, not the wi-fi portion.
In article <tofboo$m2s$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?
If so, would you kindly lend your experienced suggestions and advice to this cross-platform thread which discusses ultrasonic file transfers.
In article <toffkb$dlb$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
While your IQ is (sadly) below average, you're actually the _smartest_ of all the iKooks, which means, sometimes (rarely, but sometimes) you know technical stuff, where, in this case, I already said I've never used this reputed ad hoc ultrasonic networking between two compatible devices.
I'm hoping you know more about this ultrasonic file transfer than I do.
discussion the initial negotiation of the ad hoc network via ultrasound.
What's different about a well-educated person who is confident in what he knows and in what he doesn't know, is I'm not afraid to admit when I err,
Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad
hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?
If so, would you kindly lend your experienced suggestions and advice to
this cross-platform thread which discusses ultrasonic file transfers.
*Transferring data using high frequency audio* <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/X7kTY-VLvnU>
Details below of just one post to that recent thread:
Andy Burns wrote:
Does a smartphone have an ultrasonic radio switch to turn it on and off? >>> Where?
ultrasonic just uses mic and speaker, not any radio
Woo hoo! I love cross-platform portability!
I noticed this thread speaks of yet another way to transfer data between devices using *ultrasonic* audio between compatible devices' speakers/mics.
Since I have iOS & Android devices, I'm going to look into this cross platform *ultrasonic* capability since it doesn't need Wi-Fi or cable. <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00048603/>
The *ultrasonic" file transfer seems to "run" on Windows, macOS, and
Android (but does the ultrasonic file transfer work on iOS?). <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/app/smart-switch>
And yet, Samsung "says" it can transfer between iPhone and Android. <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00061001/>
But, they seem to be using the iCloud (which isn't ultrasonic).
So it's confusing, at least to someone who has never used it (like I).
If anyone here has already used ultrasonic file transfer, please let me
know what you can teach me about it, as it sounds like good functionality. <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=samsung+smart+switch&c=apps>
The first question to ponder is which of the _many_ related ultrasonic
file transfer apps is best where this is the canonical Samsung app.
*Samsung Smart Switch Mobile* by Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. Free, ad
free, requires gsf, rated 4.1/345K reviews @ 100M+ Downloads <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.easyMover>
Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the
cloud, it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a
peer-to-peer
connect.
Is it truly transferring files using an *ultrasonic* ad hoc network
between two devices?
If so, what two devices (particularly, can it go between iOS & Android)?
In summary, I was unaware of *ultrasonic* file transfer until I read
this thread today, where I'd like to transfer files ultrasonically between either iOS and Android (and vice versa) or between iOS/Android & the PC.
Anyone with experience in such ad hoc ultrasonic file transfer is asked
to lend your experiences to the rest of us so we all benefit.
Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad
hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?
If so, would you kindly lend your experienced suggestions and advice to
this cross-platform thread which discusses ultrasonic file transfers.
*Transferring data using high frequency audio* <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/X7kTY-VLvnU>
Anyone with experience in such ad hoc ultrasonic file transfer is
asked to lend your experiences to the rest of us so we all benefit.
On 2022-12-27 09:59, Andy Burnelli wrote:
Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?
There is no such network.
As your later attempt to retcon shows, there is a system that allows you
to join an ad hoc WiFi network using ultrasonic sounds played through
your TV's speakers, but that is NOT "an ultrasonic ad hoc network".
If so, would you kindly lend your experienced suggestions and advice to this cross-platform thread which discusses ultrasonic file transfers.
It only discusses it because you completely misunderstood what was
happening.
you claim to be be 'highly educated', even claiming to have a degree
in electrical engineering, yet you do not know basic signal theory, or english for that matter. is your diploma also a photo?
it is *not* a standard protocol.
On 2022-12-28 07:36, Andy Burnelli wrote:
nospam wrote:
it is *not* a standard protocol.
Hi nospam,
Hehhehheh... you are so _afraid_ of this simple question that you are
beginning your cascade of seven excuses for flaws in Apple functionality.
Might it be that iOS is so crippled it can't this simple basic task?
It's a proprietary protocol that works only between certain devices from
the same manufacturer or at least licensed from the same manufacturer.
It's OS-level if it's setting the WiFi onto a different network.
And, oh:
'Requirements for Chromecast devices
Here are the minimum requirements to set up and use Chromecast devices:
Mobile devices operating system (OS) requirements
You can use the Google Home app on compatible mobile devices to set up Chromecast with Google TV, Chromecast, Chromecast Ultra, Chromecast
Audio, and TVs and speakers with Chromecast built-in.
The Google Home app is compatible with the following mobile devices:
Android phone with Android 8.0 or later
Android tablet with Android 8.0 or later
iPhone or iPad with iOS 14.0 or later'
iOS 14 was released in 2020
nospam wrote:
it is *not* a standard protocol.
Hi nospam,
Hehhehheh... you are so _afraid_ of this simple question that you are beginning your cascade of seven excuses for flaws in Apple functionality.
Might it be that iOS is so crippled it can't this simple basic task?
On 2022-12-28 07:36, Andy Burnelli wrote:
Might it be that iOS is so crippled it can't this simple basic task?
It's a proprietary protocol that works only between certain devices from
the same manufacturer or at least licensed from the same manufacturer.
It's OS-level if it's setting the WiFi onto a different network.
And, oh:
'Requirements for Chromecast devices
Here are the minimum requirements to set up and use Chromecast devices:
Mobile devices operating system (OS) requirements
You can use the Google Home app on compatible mobile devices to set up Chromecast with Google TV, Chromecast, Chromecast Ultra, Chromecast
Audio, and TVs and speakers with Chromecast built-in.
The Google Home app is compatible with the following mobile devices:
Android phone with Android 8.0 or later
Android tablet with Android 8.0 or later
iPhone or iPad with iOS 14.0 or later'
iOS 14 was released in 2020
In article <tohul3$13pa$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-12-28 07:36, Andy Burnelli wrote:
Might it be that iOS is so crippled it can't this simple basic task?
It's a proprietary protocol that works only between certain devices from
the same manufacturer or at least licensed from the same manufacturer.
It's OS-level if it's setting the WiFi onto a different network.
And, oh:
'Requirements for Chromecast devices
Here are the minimum requirements to set up and use Chromecast devices:
Mobile devices operating system (OS) requirements
You can use the Google Home app on compatible mobile devices to set up
Chromecast with Google TV, Chromecast, Chromecast Ultra, Chromecast
Audio, and TVs and speakers with Chromecast built-in.
The Google Home app is compatible with the following mobile devices:
Android phone with Android 8.0 or later
Android tablet with Android 8.0 or later
iPhone or iPad with iOS 14.0 or later'
iOS 14 was released in 2020
ios has been using bluetooth to auto-configure wifi *before* the
chromecast added ultrasonic, which google did only because they were
too cheap to add a bluetooth radio and do it properly.
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