• Transferring data between iOS and Android using high frequency ultrason

    From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Tue Dec 27 17:59:00 2022
    Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad
    hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?

    If so, would you kindly lend your experienced suggestions and advice to
    this cross-platform thread which discusses ultrasonic file transfers.

    *Transferring data using high frequency audio*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/X7kTY-VLvnU>

    Details below of just one post to that recent thread:
    Andy Burns wrote:

    Does a smartphone have an ultrasonic radio switch to turn it on and off?
    Where?

    ultrasonic just uses mic and speaker, not any radio

    Woo hoo! I love cross-platform portability!

    I noticed this thread speaks of yet another way to transfer data between devices using *ultrasonic* audio between compatible devices' speakers/mics.

    Since I have iOS & Android devices, I'm going to look into this cross
    platform *ultrasonic* capability since it doesn't need Wi-Fi or cable.
    <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00048603/>

    The *ultrasonic" file transfer seems to "run" on Windows, macOS,
    and Android (but does the ultrasonic file transfer work on iOS?).
    <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/app/smart-switch>

    And yet, Samsung "says" it can transfer between iPhone and Android.
    <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00061001/>
    But, they seem to be using the iCloud (which isn't ultrasonic).

    So it's confusing, at least to someone who has never used it (like I).

    If anyone here has already used ultrasonic file transfer, please let me
    know what you can teach me about it, as it sounds like good functionality.
    <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=samsung+smart+switch&c=apps>

    The first question to ponder is which of the _many_ related ultrasonic
    file transfer apps is best where this is the canonical Samsung app.
    *Samsung Smart Switch Mobile* by Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
    Free, ad free, requires gsf, rated 4.1/345K reviews @ 100M+ Downloads
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.easyMover>

    Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the cloud,
    it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer
    connect.

    Is it truly transferring files using an *ultrasonic* ad hoc network
    between two devices?

    If so, what two devices (particularly, can it go between iOS & Android)?

    In summary, I was unaware of *ultrasonic* file transfer until I read this thread today, where I'd like to transfer files ultrasonically between
    either iOS and Android (and vice versa) or between iOS/Android & the PC.

    Anyone with experience in such ad hoc ultrasonic file transfer is
    asked to lend your experiences to the rest of us so we all benefit.
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to learn more about ultrasonic file transfer.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to spam@nospam.com on Tue Dec 27 13:25:13 2022
    In article <tofboo$m2s$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:

    Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad
    hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?

    there is no such ability, because it's a stupid concept.

    go look at the photos of your textbooks for a clue as to why.



    *Transferring data using high frequency audio*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/X7kTY-VLvnU>

    the original claim is bogus, which explains why you think it's true.

    Since I have iOS & Android devices, I'm going to look into this cross platform *ultrasonic* capability since it doesn't need Wi-Fi or cable.

    of course you will.

    while you're at it, maybe you can look into finding the votes trump
    thinks were for him.


    So it's confusing, at least to someone who has never used it (like I).

    everything is confusing to you, because you lack rational thought.



    Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the cloud, it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer connect.

    it works by using wifi.

    Is it truly transferring files using an *ultrasonic* ad hoc network
    between two devices?

    no.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Tue Dec 27 19:04:56 2022
    nospam wrote:

    Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the cloud,
    it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer
    connect.

    it works by using wifi.

    Hi nospam,

    As I said, I was completely unaware of this ad hoc *ultrasonic* pairing
    and, as I also said, I wish to test this feature out using my iPads.

    While your IQ is (sadly) below average, you're actually the _smartest_ of
    all the iKooks, which means, sometimes (rarely, but sometimes) you know technical stuff, where, in this case, I already said I've never used this reputed ad hoc ultrasonic networking between two compatible devices.

    I'm hoping you know more about this ultrasonic file transfer than I do. However...

    In most cases where networking works between Linux/Windows/PC/mac/Android,
    it's usually iOS that's crippled (generally only iOS is crippled, not mac).

    It's common knowledge you're most vehement when you're _afraid_ of the crippling of iOS being discussed, so I take note you fear this feature.

    And, since FACTS are all I care about, I also take note of Andy Burns' response, since _he_ is far more credible than you will ever be, nospam.
    "ultrasonic just uses mic and speaker"
    "With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection"
    to do the wifi pairing ...
    I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?"

    This is interesting, in that it appears that ad-hoc "Wi-Fi pairing" is negotiated via an "ultrasonic" network between devices' "mic & speaker".

    Do you know of an equivalent IOS app I can test this ultrasonic connection between dissimilar devices (iOS & Android) to effect the Wi-Fi pairing?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to spam@nospam.com on Tue Dec 27 14:47:43 2022
    In article <toffkb$dlb$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:


    Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the cloud, >> it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer
    connect.

    it works by using wifi.

    As I said, I was completely unaware of this ad hoc *ultrasonic* pairing
    and, as I also said, I wish to test this feature out using my iPads.

    what part of wifi is not clear?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to spam@nospam.com on Tue Dec 27 16:00:36 2022
    In article <toflli$10tp$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:


    Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the
    cloud,
    it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer >>>> connect.

    it works by using wifi.

    As I said, I was completely unaware of this ad hoc *ultrasonic* pairing
    and, as I also said, I wish to test this feature out using my iPads.

    what part of wifi is not clear?


    I asked a simple question, which you obviously avoided answering...

    i answered it, and far more tactfully than you deserve.




    With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection" to do the wifi pairing ... I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?

    again, what part of wifi is not clear?

    chromecasts *can* use ultrasonic for *pairing* to use wifi, although
    that's not the only method.

    ultrasonic is *not* for file transfer, which as i said before is a
    stupid idea.

    you also originally asked about samsung switch, not chromecasts, so the
    above is irrelevant to your question.

    you claim to be be 'highly educated', even claiming to have a degree in electrical engineering, yet you do not know basic signal theory, or
    english for that matter. is your diploma also a photo?

    What's the advantage of ultrasonic negotiation of the initial ad hoc
    network over the more common methods of initial ad hoc negotiations?

    none.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Tue Dec 27 20:47:58 2022
    nospam wrote:

    Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the cloud, >>>> it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a peer-to-peer >>>> connect.

    it works by using wifi.

    As I said, I was completely unaware of this ad hoc *ultrasonic* pairing
    and, as I also said, I wish to test this feature out using my iPads.

    what part of wifi is not clear?

    Hi nospam,

    I asked a simple question, which you obviously avoided answering...

    The fact you're always so desperate to deflect from any discussion which
    shows iOS to be crippled (which, sadly, is most technical conversations),
    is duly noted, as is the fact you avoided answering the direct question.

    Nonetheless, I will repeat that I'm asking why the _negotiation_ is via ultrasound, not the file transfer, per se (as you seem to whoosh on).

    Perhaps my question on the adult smartphone newsgroup will make it clear? Here's what I just posted for Andy Burns (who is credible) to help with:

    With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection" to do the wifi pairing ... I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?

    Hi Andy,
    I'm sorry if these are simplistic questions, as I had originally thought
    file transfer was over an ad hoc ultrasonic network between two devices.

    And I wish to repeat I have _zero_ experience with ultrasonic negotiation
    of ad hoc networks (as my past ad hoc networks were usually bluetooth).

    If file transfer is over Wi-Fi, and if both devices are on the same
    network, why would you even need the initial ultrasonic negotiation?

    And, if both devices are NOT on a Wi-Fi network, then why not just
    negotiate the connection & affect the file transfer both with Bluetooth?
    [Yes, I know Bluetooth transfer is slower than is Wi-Fi but this is about
    the negotiation part of the ad hoc network - not the transfer per se.]

    What's the advantage of ultrasonic negotiation of the initial ad hoc
    network over the more common methods of initial ad hoc negotiations?

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to nospam on Tue Dec 27 21:16:25 2022
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    again, what part of wifi is not clear?

    chromecasts *can* use ultrasonic for *pairing* to use wifi, although
    that's not the only method.

    ultrasonic is *not* for file transfer, which as i said before is a
    stupid idea.

    you also originally asked about samsung switch, not chromecasts, so the
    above is irrelevant to your question.

    OMG. Arlen is a genuine imbecile.

    And it is obvious where he was hoping to go with this. He wants to show
    that “Android has an app for Ultrasonic File Transfer” but - of course - the “crippled” iOS does not.

    you claim to be be 'highly educated', even claiming to have a degree in electrical engineering, yet you do not know basic signal theory, or
    english for that matter. is your diploma also a photo?

    Lots of people claim the Earth is flat. But that does have any bearing on reality.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Tue Dec 27 21:38:47 2022
    nospam wrote:

    I asked a simple question, which you obviously avoided answering...

    i answered it, and far more tactfully than you deserve.

    Hi nospam,

    Hehhehheh... (your fear of the question is palpable indeed)...

    As is the case always with you, you _deflected_ from answering the
    question, which I will repeat is simply asking what iOS app exists
    on the App Store that replicates the related Android functionality.

    The fact you're so _desperate_ to insult me, which is fine by me, simply indicates how _afraid_ you are of something as simple as that question.

    The more you (& Jolly Roger) insult people for asking technical questions
    of iOS, the more I can tell how much abject _fear_ the question invokes.

    You're literally _afraid_ of answering that simple question of iOS.

    With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection" to do the wifi >> > pairing ... I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?

    again, what part of wifi is not clear?

    Again, you deflect since I made it rather clear we're talking about the negotiation part of the ad hoc network, not the wi-fi portion.

    The more you deflect, the more I sense the fear in you of the question.


    chromecasts *can* use ultrasonic for *pairing* to use wifi, although
    that's not the only method.

    ultrasonic is *not* for file transfer, which as i said before is a
    stupid idea.

    Again, nobody but you is talking at this point about file transfer; we're discussion the initial negotiation of the ad hoc network via ultrasound.

    That you're so desperate to deflect from iOS indicates your rising fears.

    you also originally asked about samsung switch, not chromecasts, so the
    above is irrelevant to your question.

    Almost all your responses, so far, in this thread, in fact, are the same responses you always elicit when you're _afraid_ of the question asked.

    I can sense how much you fear the answer to the simple question of what iOS apps are in the App Store that replicate an ultrasound negotiation feature.

    you claim to be be 'highly educated', even claiming to have a degree in electrical engineering, yet you do not know basic signal theory, or
    english for that matter. is your diploma also a photo?

    What's different about a well-educated person who is confident in what he
    knows and in what he doesn't know, is I'm not afraid to admit when I err,
    and I'm not afraid to admit I am new to any given topic - yet you are.

    The fact you can't answer the simplest of questions that I asked multiple
    times of which free iOS apps replicates this Android functionality is yet another indicator that either you lack the knowledge you claim to own,
    or, more likely, you're aware of something I'm not yet aware of, but which
    is becoming more and more apparent by your abject fear of a simple query.

    *What iOS apps exist today on the App Store that replicate this feature?*


    What's the advantage of ultrasonic negotiation of the initial ad hoc
    network over the more common methods of initial ad hoc negotiations?

    none.

    I asked that question on the _adult_ smartphone newsgroup, where the answer will be forthcoming, I'm sure, since they're not afraid of the question.

    You are literally quaking right now, probably shivering in fear, simply
    because someone asked a simple question of what iOS apps exist which take advantage of the ultrasound ad hoc network negotiation feature we speak of.

    *What App Store iOS apps exist today which perform this functionality?*
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to simply ascertain iOS ultrasound negotiation.

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  • From CDB@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Tue Dec 27 16:45:00 2022
    On 12/27/2022 4:38 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:

    nospam wrote:

    I asked a simple question, which you obviously avoided answering...

    i answered it, and far more tactfully than you deserve.

    Hi nospam,

    Hehhehheh... (your fear of the question is palpable indeed)...

    As is the case always with you, you _deflected_ from answering the
    question, which I will repeat is simply asking what iOS app exists
    on the App Store that replicates the related Android functionality.

    The fact you're so _desperate_ to insult me, which is fine by me, simply indicates how _afraid_ you are of something as simple as that question.

    The more you (& Jolly Roger) insult people for asking technical questions
    of iOS, the more I can tell how much abject _fear_ the question invokes.

    You're literally _afraid_ of answering that simple question of iOS.

    With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection" to do the wifi
    pairing ... I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?

    again, what part of wifi is not clear?

    Again, you deflect since I made it rather clear we're talking about the negotiation part of the ad hoc network, not the wi-fi portion.

    The more you deflect, the more I sense the fear in you of the question.


    chromecasts *can* use ultrasonic for *pairing* to use wifi, although
    that's not the only method.

    ultrasonic is *not* for file transfer, which as i said before is a
    stupid idea.

    Again, nobody but you is talking at this point about file transfer; we're discussion the initial negotiation of the ad hoc network via ultrasound.

    That you're so desperate to deflect from iOS indicates your rising fears.

    you also originally asked about samsung switch, not chromecasts, so the
    above is irrelevant to your question.

    Almost all your responses, so far, in this thread, in fact, are the same responses you always elicit when you're _afraid_ of the question asked.

    I can sense how much you fear the answer to the simple question of what iOS apps are in the App Store that replicate an ultrasound negotiation feature.

    you claim to be be 'highly educated', even claiming to have a degree in
    electrical engineering, yet you do not know basic signal theory, or
    english for that matter. is your diploma also a photo?

    What's different about a well-educated person who is confident in what he knows and in what he doesn't know, is I'm not afraid to admit when I err,
    and I'm not afraid to admit I am new to any given topic - yet you are.

    The fact you can't answer the simplest of questions that I asked multiple times of which free iOS apps replicates this Android functionality is yet another indicator that either you lack the knowledge you claim to own,
    or, more likely, you're aware of something I'm not yet aware of, but which
    is becoming more and more apparent by your abject fear of a simple query.

    *What iOS apps exist today on the App Store that replicate this feature?*


    What's the advantage of ultrasonic negotiation of the initial ad hoc
    network over the more common methods of initial ad hoc negotiations?

    none.

    I asked that question on the _adult_ smartphone newsgroup, where the answer will be forthcoming, I'm sure, since they're not afraid of the question.

    You are literally quaking right now, probably shivering in fear, simply because someone asked a simple question of what iOS apps exist which take advantage of the ultrasound ad hoc network negotiation feature we speak of.

    *What App Store iOS apps exist today which perform this functionality?*

    If it's not in iOS why doesn't that Android/iOS comparison doc list it?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Campbell on Tue Dec 27 16:56:02 2022
    In article <Yeqdnf-wd9U0_Tb-nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
    Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:


    OMG. Arlen is a genuine imbecile.

    not true.

    his aspiration in life is to become an imbecile because it would be an improvement.


    And it is obvious where he was hoping to go with this. He wants to show that Android has an app for Ultrasonic File Transfer but - of course -
    the crippled iOS does not.

    bingo.

    In article <tofokq$751$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    As is the case always with you, you _deflected_ from answering the question, which I will repeat is simply asking what iOS app exists
    on the App Store that replicates the related Android functionality.

    ...

    *What iOS apps exist today on the App Store that replicate this feature?*

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to spam@nospam.com on Tue Dec 27 16:56:01 2022
    In article <tofokq$751$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:


    As is the case always with you, you _deflected_ from answering the
    question, which I will repeat is simply asking what iOS app exists
    on the App Store that replicates the related Android functionality.

    yep, you really are that stupid.

    you haven't any clue what 'related android functionality' you're even
    asking about.


    With chromecasts, it just uses the ultrasonic "connection" to do the
    wifi pairing ... I'd imagine the audio transfer rate is pretty low?

    again, what part of wifi is not clear?

    Again, you deflect since I made it rather clear we're talking about the negotiation part of the ad hoc network, not the wi-fi portion.

    no you weren't.

    you specifically said *ultrasonic* *file* *transfer*, and more than
    once:

    In article <tofboo$m2s$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?

    If so, would you kindly lend your experienced suggestions and advice to this cross-platform thread which discusses ultrasonic file transfers.


    In article <toffkb$dlb$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    While your IQ is (sadly) below average, you're actually the _smartest_ of all the iKooks, which means, sometimes (rarely, but sometimes) you know technical stuff, where, in this case, I already said I've never used this reputed ad hoc ultrasonic networking between two compatible devices.

    I'm hoping you know more about this ultrasonic file transfer than I do.

    you are a liar.



    discussion the initial negotiation of the ad hoc network via ultrasound.

    is it a boy or a girl?



    What's different about a well-educated person who is confident in what he knows and in what he doesn't know, is I'm not afraid to admit when I err,

    then why haven't you done that?

    or are you going to keep digging yourself a deeper hole than you're
    already in?

    rhetorical question, i know.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Tue Dec 27 15:27:04 2022
    On 2022-12-27 09:59, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad
    hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?

    There is no such network.

    As your later attempt to retcon shows, there is a system that allows you
    to join an ad hoc WiFi network using ultrasonic sounds played through
    your TV's speakers, but that is NOT "an ultrasonic ad hoc network".


    If so, would you kindly lend your experienced suggestions and advice to
    this cross-platform thread which discusses ultrasonic file transfers.

    It only discusses it because you completely misunderstood what was
    happening.


    *Transferring data using high frequency audio* <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/X7kTY-VLvnU>

    You mean where you make yourself look utterly ignorant by imagining that ultrasonic frequencies can carry enough information to be usable for transferring even the smallest of today's computer files?

    What's next: you rhapsodizing file transfers via QR codes?


    Details below of just one post to that recent thread:
    Andy Burns wrote:

    Does a smartphone have an ultrasonic radio switch to turn it on and off? >>> Where?

    ultrasonic just uses mic and speaker, not any radio

    Woo hoo! I love cross-platform portability!

    I noticed this thread speaks of yet another way to transfer data between devices using *ultrasonic* audio between compatible devices' speakers/mics.

    Since I have iOS & Android devices, I'm going to look into this cross platform *ultrasonic* capability since it doesn't need Wi-Fi or cable. <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00048603/>

    The *ultrasonic" file transfer seems to "run" on Windows, macOS, and
    Android (but does the ultrasonic file transfer work on iOS?). <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/app/smart-switch>

    And yet, Samsung "says" it can transfer between iPhone and Android. <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00061001/>
    But, they seem to be using the iCloud (which isn't ultrasonic).

    So it's confusing, at least to someone who has never used it (like I).

    If anyone here has already used ultrasonic file transfer, please let me
    know what you can teach me about it, as it sounds like good functionality. <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=samsung+smart+switch&c=apps>

    The first question to ponder is which of the _many_ related ultrasonic
    file transfer apps is best where this is the canonical Samsung app.
    *Samsung Smart Switch Mobile* by Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. Free, ad
    free, requires gsf, rated 4.1/345K reviews @ 100M+ Downloads <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.easyMover>

    Second question is _how_ does it work. For example, if it uses the
    cloud, it's not "really" transferring between two devices over a
    peer-to-peer
    connect.

    Is it truly transferring files using an *ultrasonic* ad hoc network
    between two devices?
    If so, what two devices (particularly, can it go between iOS & Android)?

    In summary, I was unaware of *ultrasonic* file transfer until I read
    this thread today, where I'd like to transfer files ultrasonically between either iOS and Android (and vice versa) or between iOS/Android & the PC.

    Anyone with experience in such ad hoc ultrasonic file transfer is asked
    to lend your experiences to the rest of us so we all benefit.

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Wed Dec 28 00:42:52 2022
    Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad
    hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?

    If so, would you kindly lend your experienced suggestions and advice to
    this cross-platform thread which discusses ultrasonic file transfers.

    *Transferring data using high frequency audio* <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/X7kTY-VLvnU>
    Anyone with experience in such ad hoc ultrasonic file transfer is
    asked to lend your experiences to the rest of us so we all benefit.

    …Let it be known that pathetic troll boy Arlen Holder/Andy Burnelli made an utter fool of himself.

    Again.

    “Ultrasonic file transfers” indeed.

    It is to laugh.

    Again.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Dec 27 19:17:27 2022
    In article <tofv08$3o4cq$2@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-12-27 09:59, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Have any of you used the ability to transfer files over an ultrasonic ad hoc network between two devices, particularly between iOS & Android?

    There is no such network.

    As your later attempt to retcon shows, there is a system that allows you
    to join an ad hoc WiFi network using ultrasonic sounds played through
    your TV's speakers, but that is NOT "an ultrasonic ad hoc network".

    and it's only chromecast, and only in certain situations.

    it is *not* a standard protocol.

    If so, would you kindly lend your experienced suggestions and advice to this cross-platform thread which discusses ultrasonic file transfers.

    It only discusses it because you completely misunderstood what was
    happening.

    yep.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Dec 28 14:27:53 2022
    On 2022-12-27, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    you claim to be be 'highly educated', even claiming to have a degree
    in electrical engineering, yet you do not know basic signal theory, or english for that matter. is your diploma also a photo?

    ZING! : D

    Thanks for the giggle. : )

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Dec 28 15:36:54 2022
    nospam wrote:

    it is *not* a standard protocol.

    Hi nospam,

    Hehhehheh... you are so _afraid_ of this simple question that you are
    beginning your cascade of seven excuses for flaws in Apple functionality.

    Might it be that iOS is so crippled it can't this simple basic task?

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Dec 28 17:42:41 2022
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-12-28 07:36, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    it is *not* a standard protocol.

    Hi nospam,

    Hehhehheh... you are so _afraid_ of this simple question that you are
    beginning your cascade of seven excuses for flaws in Apple functionality.

    Might it be that iOS is so crippled it can't this simple basic task?

    It's a proprietary protocol that works only between certain devices from
    the same manufacturer or at least licensed from the same manufacturer.

    It's OS-level if it's setting the WiFi onto a different network.

    And, oh:

    'Requirements for Chromecast devices

    Here are the minimum requirements to set up and use Chromecast devices:

    Mobile devices operating system (OS) requirements
    You can use the Google Home app on compatible mobile devices to set up Chromecast with Google TV, Chromecast, Chromecast Ultra, Chromecast
    Audio, and TVs and speakers with Chromecast built-in.

    The Google Home app is compatible with the following mobile devices:

    Android phone with Android 8.0 or later
    Android tablet with Android 8.0 or later
    iPhone or iPad with iOS 14.0 or later'

    iOS 14 was released in 2020

    Don’t confuse the pathetic troll boy with Actual Facts. He only
    understands Arlen Facts.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Wed Dec 28 09:33:23 2022
    On 2022-12-28 07:36, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    it is *not* a standard protocol.

    Hi nospam,

    Hehhehheh... you are so _afraid_ of this simple question that you are beginning your cascade of seven excuses for flaws in Apple functionality.

    Might it be that iOS is so crippled it can't this simple basic task?

    It's a proprietary protocol that works only between certain devices from
    the same manufacturer or at least licensed from the same manufacturer.

    It's OS-level if it's setting the WiFi onto a different network.

    And, oh:

    'Requirements for Chromecast devices

    Here are the minimum requirements to set up and use Chromecast devices:

    Mobile devices operating system (OS) requirements
    You can use the Google Home app on compatible mobile devices to set up Chromecast with Google TV, Chromecast, Chromecast Ultra, Chromecast
    Audio, and TVs and speakers with Chromecast built-in.

    The Google Home app is compatible with the following mobile devices:

    Android phone with Android 8.0 or later
    Android tablet with Android 8.0 or later
    iPhone or iPad with iOS 14.0 or later'

    iOS 14 was released in 2020

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Dec 28 12:51:56 2022
    In article <tohul3$13pa$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-12-28 07:36, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Might it be that iOS is so crippled it can't this simple basic task?

    It's a proprietary protocol that works only between certain devices from
    the same manufacturer or at least licensed from the same manufacturer.

    It's OS-level if it's setting the WiFi onto a different network.

    And, oh:

    'Requirements for Chromecast devices

    Here are the minimum requirements to set up and use Chromecast devices:

    Mobile devices operating system (OS) requirements
    You can use the Google Home app on compatible mobile devices to set up Chromecast with Google TV, Chromecast, Chromecast Ultra, Chromecast
    Audio, and TVs and speakers with Chromecast built-in.

    The Google Home app is compatible with the following mobile devices:

    Android phone with Android 8.0 or later
    Android tablet with Android 8.0 or later
    iPhone or iPad with iOS 14.0 or later'

    iOS 14 was released in 2020

    ios has been using bluetooth to auto-configure wifi *before* the
    chromecast added ultrasonic, which google did only because they were
    too cheap to add a bluetooth radio and do it properly.

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Dec 29 00:41:16 2022
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <tohul3$13pa$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-12-28 07:36, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Might it be that iOS is so crippled it can't this simple basic task?

    It's a proprietary protocol that works only between certain devices from
    the same manufacturer or at least licensed from the same manufacturer.

    It's OS-level if it's setting the WiFi onto a different network.

    And, oh:

    'Requirements for Chromecast devices

    Here are the minimum requirements to set up and use Chromecast devices:

    Mobile devices operating system (OS) requirements
    You can use the Google Home app on compatible mobile devices to set up
    Chromecast with Google TV, Chromecast, Chromecast Ultra, Chromecast
    Audio, and TVs and speakers with Chromecast built-in.

    The Google Home app is compatible with the following mobile devices:

    Android phone with Android 8.0 or later
    Android tablet with Android 8.0 or later
    iPhone or iPad with iOS 14.0 or later'

    iOS 14 was released in 2020

    ios has been using bluetooth to auto-configure wifi *before* the
    chromecast added ultrasonic, which google did only because they were
    too cheap to add a bluetooth radio and do it properly.

    And don’t forget that it is an Arlen Fact that Apple’s Bluetooth is “non-standard”.

    Even though it works just fine with every Bluetooth device on the planet.

    Not to mention that Apple could not call it “Bluetooth” if it was - in Actual Fact - “non-standard”.

    Which very nicely explains the difference between Actual Facts and Arlen
    Facts.

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