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    From =?UTF-8?B?VGhlQXBwbGVGb3g=?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 1 17:24:22 2023
    On Sat Dec 31 15:47:20 2022 nospam wrote:
    In article <toq5cr$13ol7$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:


    There?s often a debate about the total cost of ownership (TCO) of
    Android versus iOS phones. There are many things to consider when trying
    to evaluate TCO. Some people want to compare a $200 mid-range Android device to a $1500 flagship iPhone but of course such comparisons are ludicrous.

    true, yet you do exactly that for all sorts of comparisons to suit your narrative.




    ? MSRP versus Street Price. Unlocked iPhones purchased directly from
    Apple are not discounted (except ?friends and family? discounts). There
    are no student, educator, first responder, veteran, or military discounts.

    that's another one of your highly disingenuous claims.

    most phones, android, ios or even dumbphones, are *not* sold directly
    from the manufacturer. instead, they are mostly sold at carrier stores, including carrier resellers within big box stores and carrier web
    sites.

    there are all sorts of discounts available for both iphones and android phones, including for free (under contract).

    discounts are often time-limited and may not always be available, such
    as a holiday promo, or an introductory special. in some cases, there
    are eligibility requirements, such as being a new customer to a
    particular carrier, over a certain age, etc.

    as for apple's friends and family discount, that's only available for
    apple employees who are interested in offering it to others. it's also
    not unlimited, so they are likely to be very selective as to whom they
    offer it.

    further, most people finance their phones, so the full price is largely irrelevant. an extra few bucks a month gets them a fancier phone.

    By contrast, unlocked Samsung phones purchased directly from Samsung
    have a lot of discounts available, as well as referral code discounts.
    ...
    Google often offers amazing discounts, and ridiculously high trade-in values, on their Pixel devices,

    only because they don't sell well on their own.

    discounts are *needed* to move inventory.

    Hi, I'm new here :-)

    If you ask me,
    There is no denying it. iPhone has higher Total cost of ownership, BUT
    the user experience is much much better on iPhone, due to higher quality
    apps, less crashes from the OS / window server / various parts of the software.

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  • From chop@21:1/5 to theapplefox@the.apple.fox on Mon Jan 2 06:34:58 2023
    On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 04:24:22 +1100, TheAppleFox
    <theapplefox@the.apple.fox> wrote:

    On Sat Dec 31 15:47:20 2022 nospam wrote:
    In article <toq5cr$13ol7$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:


    There?s often a debate about the total cost of ownership (TCO) of
    Android versus iOS phones. There are many things to consider when
    trying
    to evaluate TCO. Some people want to compare a $200 mid-range Android
    device to a $1500 flagship iPhone but of course such comparisons are
    ludicrous.

    true, yet you do exactly that for all sorts of comparisons to suit your
    narrative.




    ? MSRP versus Street Price. Unlocked iPhones purchased directly from
    Apple are not discounted (except ?friends and family? discounts).
    There
    are no student, educator, first responder, veteran, or military
    discounts.

    that's another one of your highly disingenuous claims.

    most phones, android, ios or even dumbphones, are *not* sold directly
    from the manufacturer. instead, they are mostly sold at carrier stores,
    including carrier resellers within big box stores and carrier web
    sites.

    there are all sorts of discounts available for both iphones and android
    phones, including for free (under contract).

    discounts are often time-limited and may not always be available, such
    as a holiday promo, or an introductory special. in some cases, there
    are eligibility requirements, such as being a new customer to a
    particular carrier, over a certain age, etc.

    as for apple's friends and family discount, that's only available for
    apple employees who are interested in offering it to others. it's also
    not unlimited, so they are likely to be very selective as to whom they
    offer it.

    further, most people finance their phones, so the full price is largely
    irrelevant. an extra few bucks a month gets them a fancier phone.

    By contrast, unlocked Samsung phones purchased directly from Samsung
    have a lot of discounts available, as well as referral code discounts.
    ...
    Google often offers amazing discounts, and ridiculously high trade-in
    values, on their Pixel devices,

    only because they don't sell well on their own.

    discounts are *needed* to move inventory.

    Hi, I'm new here :-)

    If you ask me,
    There is no denying it. iPhone has higher Total cost of ownership,

    Depends on what you compare it with, not true of the Pixels
    or the Samsung S22.

    BUT
    the user experience is much much better on iPhone,

    That's why I use them.

    due to higher quality apps,

    Not convinced about that.

    less crashes from the OS

    Or that. I prefer the iOS UI tho.

    / window server

    Not clear what you mean there.

    / various parts of the software.

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  • From theapplefox@21:1/5 to chop on Sun Jan 1 20:32:32 2023
    chop <chop654@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 04:24:22 +1100, TheAppleFox
    <theapplefox@the.apple.fox> wrote:

    On Sat Dec 31 15:47:20 2022 nospam wrote:
    In article <toq5cr$13ol7$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:


    There?s often a debate about the total cost of ownership (TCO) of
    Android versus iOS phones. There are many things to consider when
    trying
    to evaluate TCO. Some people want to compare a $200 mid-range Android
    device to a $1500 flagship iPhone but of course such comparisons are
    ludicrous.

    true, yet you do exactly that for all sorts of comparisons to suit your
    narrative.




    ? MSRP versus Street Price. Unlocked iPhones purchased directly from
    Apple are not discounted (except ?friends and family? discounts).
    There
    are no student, educator, first responder, veteran, or military
    discounts.

    that's another one of your highly disingenuous claims.

    most phones, android, ios or even dumbphones, are *not* sold directly
    from the manufacturer. instead, they are mostly sold at carrier stores,
    including carrier resellers within big box stores and carrier web
    sites.

    there are all sorts of discounts available for both iphones and android
    phones, including for free (under contract).

    discounts are often time-limited and may not always be available, such
    as a holiday promo, or an introductory special. in some cases, there
    are eligibility requirements, such as being a new customer to a
    particular carrier, over a certain age, etc.

    as for apple's friends and family discount, that's only available for
    apple employees who are interested in offering it to others. it's also
    not unlimited, so they are likely to be very selective as to whom they
    offer it.

    further, most people finance their phones, so the full price is largely
    irrelevant. an extra few bucks a month gets them a fancier phone.

    By contrast, unlocked Samsung phones purchased directly from Samsung
    have a lot of discounts available, as well as referral code discounts.
    ...
    Google often offers amazing discounts, and ridiculously high trade-in
    values, on their Pixel devices,

    only because they don't sell well on their own.

    discounts are *needed* to move inventory.

    Hi, I'm new here :-)

    If you ask me,
    There is no denying it. iPhone has higher Total cost of ownership,

    Depends on what you compare it with, not true of the Pixels
    or the Samsung S22.

    BUT
    the user experience is much much better on iPhone,

    That's why I use them.

    due to higher quality apps,

    Not convinced about that.

    less crashes from the OS

    Or that. I prefer the iOS UI tho.

    / window server

    Not clear what you mean there.

    / various parts of the software.


    Oh, you never had a samsung phone lock up in an app, show the samsung logo again & relaunch the gui? Also happens on other Android phones.

    I mean surfaceflinger crash.

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