I listen to either voice-based programs via BBC Sounds or Apple music, but the BBC programs tend to be relatively quiet. Is there a way to get
app-based volume levelling to stop my ears being blasted when listening to Music after a BBC podcast?
In article <tqucbm$198us$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
I listen to either voice-based programs via BBC Sounds or Apple music, but >> the BBC programs tend to be relatively quiet. Is there a way to get
app-based volume levelling to stop my ears being blasted when listening to >> Music after a BBC podcast?
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/change-the-way-music-sounds-iph5 643d2c85/ios>
Normalize the volume level of your audio: Go to Settings > Music,
then turn on Sound Check
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <tqucbm$198us$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
I listen to either voice-based programs via BBC Sounds or Apple music, but >>> the BBC programs tend to be relatively quiet. Is there a way to get
app-based volume levelling to stop my ears being blasted when listening to >>> Music after a BBC podcast?
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/change-the-way-music-sounds-iph5
643d2c85/ios>
Normalize the volume level of your audio: Go to Settings > Music,
then turn on Sound Check
You snipped the bit where I didn't want to suppress Music's volume nor do I want compress the dynamic range of my library. The issue isn't jumping between different types of music. It's swapping between apps.
The issue isn't jumping
between different types of music. It's swapping between apps.
Chris wrote:
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <tqucbm$198us$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
I listen to either voice-based programs via BBC Sounds or Apple
music, but the BBC programs tend to be relatively quiet. Is there a
way to get app-based volume levelling to stop my ears being blasted
when listening to Music after a BBC podcast?
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/change-the-way-music-sounds-iph5 >>> 643d2c85/ios> Normalize the volume level of your audio: Go to
Settings > Music, then turn on Sound Check
You snipped the bit where I didn't want to suppress Music's volume
nor do I want compress the dynamic range of my library. The issue
isn't jumping between different types of music. It's swapping between
apps.
This isn't possible in IOS. At least, I never found any way, and I
have asked in the past, and researched some myself too.
It probably isn't possible, unless there is a volume control inside
the app itself, and even that may not be possible within the apple OS structure.
You'll just have to deal with it.
Anyway, you have misconstrued the core purpose of this group. This
group is dedicated entirely to quarreling over apple corporate
minutia, especially legal cases, and also for shilling for either
android or apple in a dogmatic religious cult way. Everything here
usually degenerates to this: Is so ... is not ... is so ... is not,
then to LIAR! Am not ... are too .... and so forth.
It's a very contentious group, and you are unlikely to get a good
answer, even if one exists. That is a rare occurrence, but does happen
once in a blue moon.
This isn't possible in IOS. At least, I never found any way, and I
have asked in the past, and researched some myself too.
There is no OS-level feature to adjust volume per app in iOS. I suppose
if enough people requested it in Apple feedback, Apple may add such a feature, but my bet is most people don't want it.
It probably isn't possible, unless there is a volume control inside
the app itself, and even that may not be possible within the apple OS
structure.
It's definitely possible. For instance, the Pushover app lets you set
the volume level for critical alerts. App developers are in control of
this sort of thing and can offer this functionality if they wish.
You'll just have to deal with it.
Probably - unless you can convince an app developer to address it in
their app.
Anyway, you have misconstrued the core purpose of this group. This
group is dedicated entirely to quarreling over apple corporate
minutia, especially legal cases, and also for shilling for either
android or apple in a dogmatic religious cult way. Everything here
usually degenerates to this: Is so ... is not ... is so ... is not,
then to LIAR! Am not ... are too .... and so forth.
That improves if you filter out the troll posts.
It's a very contentious group, and you are unlikely to get a good
answer, even if one exists. That is a rare occurrence, but does happen
once in a blue moon.
That's due to the resident anti-Apple trolls stirring shit every chance
they get.
In article <tqupac$1bdfk$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
The issue isn't jumping
between different types of music. It's swapping between apps.
each app has control over the volume of any sound it produces and has
no way to know how loud or soft an entirely different app will be. this
is not specific to ios either.
Chris wrote:
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <tqucbm$198us$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
I listen to either voice-based programs via BBC Sounds or Apple music, but >>>> the BBC programs tend to be relatively quiet. Is there a way to get
app-based volume levelling to stop my ears being blasted when listening to >>>> Music after a BBC podcast?
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/change-the-way-music-sounds-iph5 >>> 643d2c85/ios>
Normalize the volume level of your audio: Go to Settings > Music,
then turn on Sound Check
You snipped the bit where I didn't want to suppress Music's volume nor do I >> want compress the dynamic range of my library. The issue isn't jumping
between different types of music. It's swapping between apps.
This isn't possible in IOS. At least, I never found any way, and I
have asked in the past, and researched some myself too. It probably
isn't possible, unless there is a volume control inside the app
itself, and even that may not be possible within the apple OS
structure. You'll just have to deal with it.
Anyway, you have misconstrued the core purpose of this group. This
group is dedicated entirely to quarreling over apple corporate
minutia, especially legal cases, and also for shilling for either
android or apple in a dogmatic religious cult way. Everything here
usually degenerates to this: Is so ... is not ... is so ... is not,
then to LIAR! Am not ... are too .... and so forth.
It's a very contentious group, and you are unlikely to get a good
answer, even if one exists. That is a rare occurrence, but does
happen once in a blue moon.
Good luck, and sorry I can't help.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <tqupac$1bdfk$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
The issue isn't jumping
between different types of music. It's swapping between apps.
each app has control over the volume of any sound it produces and has
no way to know how loud or soft an entirely different app will be. this
is not specific to ios either.
Yes but *I* know that my preferred volume for BBC is let's say a "9" and
for Music is a "7". It wouldn't be hard to have a preset that matches *my* expectation. iOS doesn't need to do anything itself.
On 2023-01-27, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <tqupac$1bdfk$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
The issue isn't jumping
between different types of music. It's swapping between apps.
each app has control over the volume of any sound it produces and has
no way to know how loud or soft an entirely different app will be. this
is not specific to ios either.
Yes but *I* know that my preferred volume for BBC is let's say a "9" and
for Music is a "7". It wouldn't be hard to have a preset that matches *my* >> expectation. iOS doesn't need to do anything itself.
I have not tried this myself, and it may be overkill, but... Could you
use Shortcuts to make a custom launcher for your various music apps? eg.
1) select desired app from a list, 2) set system volume, 3) launch app.
The issue isn't jumping
between different types of music. It's swapping between apps.
each app has control over the volume of any sound it produces and has
no way to know how loud or soft an entirely different app will be. this
is not specific to ios either.
Yes but *I* know that my preferred volume for BBC is let's say a "9" and
for Music is a "7". It wouldn't be hard to have a preset that matches *my* expectation. iOS doesn't need to do anything itself.
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not every possible edge case.
To be fair, iOS would certainly need to be changed to provide a user interface for allowing users to specify custom volume levels for each
app, as well as changes to the system to actually set the volume
whenever a given app is in use.
Like i said, I'm willing to bet there just isn't enough actual demand for this functionality as a large percentage of total users to justify the changes and added complexity.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites, news services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <tqupac$1bdfk$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
The issue isn't jumping between different types of music. It's
swapping between apps.
each app has control over the volume of any sound it produces and has
no way to know how loud or soft an entirely different app will be.
this is not specific to ios either.
Yes but *I* know that my preferred volume for BBC is let's say a "9"
and for Music is a "7". It wouldn't be hard to have a preset that
matches *my* expectation. iOS doesn't need to do anything itself.
On 2023-01-27, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <tqupac$1bdfk$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
The issue isn't jumping
between different types of music. It's swapping between apps.
each app has control over the volume of any sound it produces and has
no way to know how loud or soft an entirely different app will be. this
is not specific to ios either.
Yes but *I* know that my preferred volume for BBC is let's say a "9" and
for Music is a "7". It wouldn't be hard to have a preset that matches *my* >> expectation. iOS doesn't need to do anything itself.
I have not tried this myself, and it may be overkill, but... Could you
use Shortcuts to make a custom launcher for your various music apps? eg.
1) select desired app from a list, 2) set system volume, 3) launch app.
On 2023-01-27 09:39, nospam wrote:
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not every
possible edge case.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites, news services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
For whatever reason, Apple has also never wanted to allow individual
volume settings for different things (ring, notifications, media).
It's
something that lots of iPhone users have been requesting for more than a decade,
often from former Android users that cannot believe that
something that they depended on on their Android devices is not
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 09:39, nospam wrote:
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not every
possible edge case.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites, news
services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
It does to me. All of those billion+ currently listen to music,
podcasts, websites, news services, etc without needing to set a custom
volume for each app. I know because I'm one of them. ; )
In article <k3i5avFod2nU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
To be fair, iOS would certainly need to be changed to provide a user
interface for allowing users to specify custom volume levels for each
app, as well as changes to the system to actually set the volume
whenever a given app is in use.
which would be a ui disaster and confuse nearly everyone, especially if something is changed in error.
Like i said, I'm willing to bet there just isn't enough actual demand for
this functionality as a large percentage of total users to justify the
changes and added complexity.
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not every possible edge case.
To be fair, iOS would certainly need to be changed to provide a user
interface for allowing users to specify custom volume levels for each
app, as well as changes to the system to actually set the volume
whenever a given app is in use.
which would be a ui disaster and confuse nearly everyone, especially if something is changed in error.
You make it sound as if the settings app is paean of UI perfection. It
isn't. It's already horribly bloated.
I can see it being easily implemented as another toggle/over-ride in
each app's settings. Just like notifications.
Like i said, I'm willing to bet there just isn't enough actual demand for >> this functionality as a large percentage of total users to justify the
changes and added complexity.
I'd bet very few (i.e. <5%) of all use cases affect any sizeable
percentage of the total users.
The Settings app is so complicated that
only the tech savvy fiddle around in there.
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not every possible edge case.
Not really an edge case if they already cater for it in their own Music
app, is it?
On 27/01/2023 15:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 09:39, nospam wrote:
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not
every possible edge case.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites,
news services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
It does to me. All of those billion+ currently listen to music,
podcasts, websites, news services, etc without needing to set a
custom volume for each app. I know because I'm one of them. ; )
Classic confirmation bias...
In article <tr0qvj$1of76$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
For whatever reason, Apple has also never wanted to allow individual
volume settings for different things (ring, notifications, media).
except that they did. those *do* have different volumes, and apps can
control it even further on a per-app basis, as is commonly found in
games, where there can even be control for background music separate
from game sounds within the game, entirely independent of other apps,
such as a music player.
It's
something that lots of iPhone users have been requesting for more than a
decade,
no they haven't. that's nothing more than yet another one of your
baseless unsubstantiated claims.
often from former Android users that cannot believe that
something that they depended on on their Android devices is not
rubbish. nobody 'depended on' such a feature, and it't not part of
android either, but instead available with a third party app.
it also wouldn't work properly because the loudness of individual
songs, podcasts, etc, is outside of the control of both apple and app developers.
for example, someone could match two different app volumes and then
encounter a louder song or podcast and be surprised. further, the
interface to control the master volume of every single app would be a confusing mess. not only that, but apps could completely ignore the
system setting and set their own volume.
On 2023-01-27, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <tqupac$1bdfk$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
The issue isn't jumping
between different types of music. It's swapping between apps.
each app has control over the volume of any sound it produces and has
no way to know how loud or soft an entirely different app will be. this
is not specific to ios either.
Yes but *I* know that my preferred volume for BBC is let's say a "9" and
for Music is a "7". It wouldn't be hard to have a preset that matches *my* >> expectation. iOS doesn't need to do anything itself.
I have not tried this myself, and it may be overkill, but... Could you
use Shortcuts to make a custom launcher for your various music apps? eg.
1) select desired app from a list, 2) set system volume, 3) launch app.
I could not figure out how to adjust the volume as a step prior to
launching an app with a shortcut.
Maybe it's possible with some of the
custom launchers on the App store.
Per app volume settings would be a nice feature to have. When I have
multiple apps running, like a navigation app and a music app, it would
be very useful.
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 09:39, nospam wrote:
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not every
possible edge case.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites, news
services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
It does to me. All of those billion+ currently listen to music,
podcasts, websites, news services, etc without needing to set a custom
volume for each app. I know because I'm one of them. ; )
On 1/27/2023 12:31 AM, Chris Schram wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <tqupac$1bdfk$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:
The issue isn't jumping
between different types of music. It's swapping between apps.
each app has control over the volume of any sound it produces and has
no way to know how loud or soft an entirely different app will be. this >>>> is not specific to ios either.
Yes but *I* know that my preferred volume for BBC is let's say a "9" and >>> for Music is a "7". It wouldn't be hard to have a preset that matches *my* >>> expectation. iOS doesn't need to do anything itself.
I have not tried this myself, and it may be overkill, but... Could you
use Shortcuts to make a custom launcher for your various music apps? eg.
1) select desired app from a list, 2) set system volume, 3) launch app.
I could not figure out how to adjust the volume as a step prior to
launching an app with a shortcut. Maybe it's possible with some of the
custom launchers on the App store.
sound check in the music app is because different songs often have different volumes.
Well duh. Which is exactly what I'm talking about.
what you're really wanting is global sound check across different apps,
That's explicitly *not* what I want.
which is very different than manually setting a master volume for each
app, which as i said, is a ui disaster and very much an edge case, even
if it could work (which it can't).
It obviously could work.
It's a simple shortcut even I could create, which
I have thanks to Chris's suggestion.
In article <OsRAL.329663$Tcw8.93458@fx10.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites, news
services, etc.
yep, and they do that without any issues.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
the edge case is being able to set the volume of each individual app.
the user interface alone to do that is going to be a huge mess.
as has been said before, apps control the volume of the sounds they
produce.
I listen to either voice-based programs via BBC Sounds or Apple music, but the BBC programs tend to be relatively quiet. Is there a way to get
app-based volume levelling to stop my ears being blasted when listening to Music after a BBC podcast?
In article <tr0tlf$1oq4p$2@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
Not really an edge case if they already cater for it in their own Music
app, is it?
sound check in the music app is because different songs often have
different volumes.
what you're really wanting is global sound check across different apps,
which is very different than manually setting a master volume for each
app, which as i said, is a ui disaster and very much an edge case, even
if it could work (which it can't).
On 2023-01-26 12:13, Chris wrote:
I listen to either voice-based programs via BBC Sounds or Apple music, but >> the BBC programs tend to be relatively quiet. Is there a way to get
app-based volume levelling to stop my ears being blasted when listening to >> Music after a BBC podcast?
I asked an expert for you!
<begin>
Yes, there are a few ways to prevent your ears from being blasted when switching between different audio sources, such as a BBC podcast and
music on Apple Music.
One solution is to use a volume leveling app, which can automatically
adjust the volume of different audio sources to a consistent level. Some
apps that can do this are "Equalizer +" and "Volume Leveler". These apps
can be downloaded from the app store on your mobile device and you can
set your desired volume level for different apps.
Another solution is to use a built-in feature of your device called
"Sound Check" on Apple devices or "Loudness Normalization" on Android devices. This feature automatically adjusts the volume of different
audio sources to a consistent level. You can turn this feature on by
going to your device's settings, selecting "Music" (or "Sounds and
Vibration" on some Android devices), and enabling the "Sound Check" or "Loudness Normalization" option.
Lastly, you can also adjust the volume of your device manually before switching between different audio sources.
Please be aware that if you are using headphones, some of them have
built-in volume limiter that can be adjusted.
Please note that the above-mentioned options may vary depending on the
device you are using, but generally, all smartphones have this feature.
<end>
(Answer courtesy of ChatGPT).
(Sorry - I couldn't resist).
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-26 12:13, Chris wrote:
I listen to either voice-based programs via BBC Sounds or Apple music, but >>> the BBC programs tend to be relatively quiet. Is there a way to get
app-based volume levelling to stop my ears being blasted when listening to >>> Music after a BBC podcast?
I asked an expert for you!
<begin>
Yes, there are a few <s>
<end>
(Answer courtesy of ChatGPT).
(Sorry - I couldn't resist).
Cool! Thanks to you and ChatGPT.
Maybe we should turn all of usenet into an AI bot. Much more succinct.
Could probably train a bot to replicate trolls as well.
On 2023-01-27 10:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 09:39, nospam wrote:
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not
every possible edge case.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites,
news services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
It does to me. All of those billion+ currently listen to music,
podcasts, websites, news services, etc without needing to set a
custom volume for each app. I know because I'm one of them. ; )
Samples of one don't go very far...
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 10:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 09:39, nospam wrote:
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not
every possible edge case.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites,
news services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
It does to me. All of those billion+ currently listen to music,
podcasts, websites, news services, etc without needing to set a
custom volume for each app. I know because I'm one of them. ; )
Samples of one don't go very far...
That applies to you as well. Ho hum.
On 2023-01-28 13:55, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 10:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 09:39, nospam wrote:
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not
every possible edge case.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites,
news services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
It does to me. All of those billion+ currently listen to music,
podcasts, websites, news services, etc without needing to set a
custom volume for each app. I know because I'm one of them. ; )
Samples of one don't go very far...
That applies to you as well. Ho hum.
You can't compare your "I'm one of them" to the rest of them. And you
know it.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites, news
services, etc.
yep, and they do that without any issues.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
the edge case is being able to set the volume of each individual app.
the user interface alone to do that is going to be a huge mess.
as has been said before, apps control the volume of the sounds they
produce.
You can't compare your "I'm one of them" to the rest of them. And you
know it.
You can't claim Billion+ iPhone users want per-application volume
controls, and you know it. You made that claim. As I said, right back at
you.
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 6:46:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
You can't compare your "I'm one of them" to the rest of them. And
you know it.
You can't claim Billion+ iPhone users want per-application volume
controls, and you know it. You made that claim. As I said, right back
at you.
One way to look at "demand" is to see what's out there in the app
stores for functionality that isn't native on the device itself by
default.
On 2023-01-29, Thomas <canope234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 6:46:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
You can't compare your "I'm one of them" to the rest of them. And
you know it.
You can't claim Billion+ iPhone users want per-application volume
controls, and you know it. You made that claim. As I said, right back
at you.
One way to look at "demand" is to see what's out there in the app
stores for functionality that isn't native on the device itself by
default.
That still doesn't tell you the number of customers who want such a
feature compared to the total number of users. As far as you know, only
a tiny percentage actually want it.
On 2023-01-28, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-28 13:55, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 10:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 09:39, nospam wrote:
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not
every possible edge case.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites,
news services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
It does to me. All of those billion+ currently listen to music,
podcasts, websites, news services, etc without needing to set a
custom volume for each app. I know because I'm one of them. ; )
Samples of one don't go very far...
That applies to you as well. Ho hum.
You can't compare your "I'm one of them" to the rest of them. And you
know it.
You can't claim Billion+ iPhone users want per-application volume
controls, and you know it. You made that claim. As I said, right back at
you.
That still doesn't tell you the number of customers who want such a
feature compared to the total number of users. As far as you know, only
a tiny percentage actually want it.
Nobody knows what the percentage is.
But it's likely not tiny.
On 2023-01-28 19:46, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-28, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-28 13:55, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 10:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 09:39, nospam wrote:
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not >>>>>>>> every possible edge case.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites, >>>>>>> news services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
It does to me. All of those billion+ currently listen to music,
podcasts, websites, news services, etc without needing to set a
custom volume for each app. I know because I'm one of them. ; )
Samples of one don't go very far...
That applies to you as well. Ho hum.
You can't compare your "I'm one of them" to the rest of them. And you
know it.
You can't claim Billion+ iPhone users want per-application volume
controls, and you know it. You made that claim. As I said, right back at
you.
Never claimed all of them. But it is certainly more than 1 by a lot.
On 2023-01-29 00:04, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-29, Thomas <canope234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 6:46:39 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
You can't compare your "I'm one of them" to the rest of them. And
you know it.
You can't claim Billion+ iPhone users want per-application volume
controls, and you know it. You made that claim. As I said, right
back at you.
One way to look at "demand" is to see what's out there in the app
stores for functionality that isn't native on the device itself by
default.
That still doesn't tell you the number of customers who want such a
feature compared to the total number of users. As far as you know,
only a tiny percentage actually want it.
Nobody knows what the percentage is. But it's likely not tiny.
In article <TpvBL.523635$vBI8.43207@fx15.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
That still doesn't tell you the number of customers who want such a
feature compared to the total number of users. As far as you know, only
a tiny percentage actually want it.
Nobody knows what the percentage is.
apple does
But it's likely not tiny.
yes it is.
On 2023-01-29, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-28 19:46, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-28, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-28 13:55, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 10:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-01-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-01-27 09:39, nospam wrote:
correct, as well as tech support. apple targets the masses, not >>>>>>>>> every possible edge case.
Billion+ iPhone users.
Large proportion use them to listen to music, podcasts, websites, >>>>>>>> news services, etc.
Doesn't sound very "edge case" to me.
It does to me. All of those billion+ currently listen to music,
podcasts, websites, news services, etc without needing to set a
custom volume for each app. I know because I'm one of them. ; )
Samples of one don't go very far...
That applies to you as well. Ho hum.
You can't compare your "I'm one of them" to the rest of them. And you >>>> know it.
You can't claim Billion+ iPhone users want per-application volume
controls, and you know it. You made that claim. As I said, right back at >>> you.
Never claimed all of them. But it is certainly more than 1 by a lot.
*YAWN* Are we done here?
Which is exactly why Apple locks a lot of choices out of the App Store.
Nobody knows what the percentage is.
apple does
Only if they look at it. There is no indication that they have.
Nobody knows what the percentage is. But it's likely not tiny.
As nospam points out, Apple knows better than you or anyone else.
Nobody knows what the percentage is.
apple does
Only if they look at it. There is no indication that they have.
But it's likely not tiny.
yes it is.
You have 0 knowledge about that.
explain why ios, android, mac os, windows and linux do not include a
system preference that independently can adjust the volume of
individual apps on a per-app basis.
if this feature is in such high demand as you claim, or even moderate
demand, why hasn't even one of those oses bothered?
The apps exist on Android so the sensible question is why not on iOS?
Which is exactly why Apple locks a lot of choices out of the App Store.
they don't, and in this case, no apps are needed on ios (or mac os).
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 8:13:58 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
Nobody knows what the percentage is. But it's likely not tiny.
As nospam points out, Apple knows better than you or anyone else.
Which is exactly why Apple locks a lot of choices out of the App Store.
Which is exactly why Apple locks a lot of choices out of the App Store. >>>they don't, and in this case, no apps are needed on ios (or mac os).
How can you say Apple doesn't lock plenty of apps out of the app store?
because as an app developer, i have direct experience with what they
actually do (plus knowing many other developers who have similar experiences), not what you think they might do.
In article <J_wBL.60772$Sgyc.15630@fx40.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Nobody knows what the percentage is.
apple does
Only if they look at it. There is no indication that they have.
apple looks at everything and prioritizes it all. it would be foolish
not to.
they also have a *lot* more information than any end user could
possibly have or hope to get.
But it's likely not tiny.
yes it is.
You have 0 knowledge about that.
that would be you.
explain why ios, android, mac os, windows and linux do not includ
Bloviation (of the classic nospam kind) snipped.
In article <_gCBL.99656$Ldj8.6399@fx47.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Bloviation (of the classic nospam kind) snipped.
ad hominem of the classic alan browne kind.
For you to say an app not existing on the Apple app store means low
demand
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