• Re: US Military Defector Was A Trump Supporter Fleeing To Asylum In Nor

    From Kill the Progs@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Mon Sep 11 02:12:00 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Bill Walters <nowomr@protonmail.com> wrote in news:udln0t$opq7$3@dont-email.me:


    Trump-Kim 'Love Letters' Reveal Friendship, Flattery
    September 10, 2020 9:05 AM

    William Gallo

    FILE - North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald
    Trump shake hands during a meeting on the south side of the Military
    Demarcation Line that divides North and South Korea, in the
    Demilitarized zone (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019. FILE - North
    Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald Trump shake
    hands during a meeting on the south side of the Military Demarcation
    Line that divides North and South Korea, in the Demilitarized zone
    (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019. Share

    Veteran Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward’s new book, Rage, is
    shining more light on the unlikely relationship between U.S. President
    Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    The book won’t be released until next week, but several U.S. media
    outlets on Wednesday published excerpts, including portions of
    personal letters that Trump and Kim exchanged over the past two years.

    In the letters, the young North Korean leader showers Trump with
    extravagant praise, repeatedly addressing him as “Your Excellency” and >> hailing their “deep and special friendship,” even as the wider
    U.S.-North Korea nuclear talks were breaking down.

    "Even now I cannot forget that moment of history when I firmly held
    Your Excellency's hand at the beautiful and sacred location as the
    whole world watched," Kim told Trump after their first meeting in
    Singapore in June 2018. It was one of two Kim letters published by the
    U.S.-based cable news network CNN.

    Following their second summit in Vietnam, Kim told Trump “every minute
    we shared 103 days ago in Hanoi was also a moment of glory that
    remains a precious memory,” according to CNN, which says it obtained
    transcripts of the two letters.

    Trump often returned the praise.


    Can you imagine the rightwing
    shitstorm if Clinton or Obama had
    bragged about their "love" for a
    communist dictator?

    Esp one that continued to
    threaten America with nuclear
    bombs...........




    North Korea reportedly threatens new round
    of the Korean War to end US
    June 23, 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/r2t4wbf2



    North Korea unveils massive nuclear-
    capable missile with US reach
    October 12, 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/y8kbaz2j



    North Korea signals end of nuclear-test
    suspension, promises 'new' weapon
    Jan 1 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/ut9rwhu



    North Korea's Latest Nuclear Test Was
    More Powerful Than We Thought
    JUN 5, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/y2ms33mp



    New North Korea submarine capable of
    firing ballistic missiles
    3 Nov, 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/yde7jfso



    Trump is letting Kim Jong Un do almost
    anything he wants. Missile tests. Building
    provocative submarines. It’s all good.
    Jul 26, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/d67bw6y2

    Under Trump, North Korea would have reunified with the South, on
    the South's terms.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kim-jong-un-north-korea-denuclearization-by-end-trump-term-south-korea-says/

    Aren't you faggots glad you stole the election?

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bill Walters on Mon Sep 11 01:50:12 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    Bill Walters <nowomr@protonmail.com> wrote in
    news:udln0t$opq7$3@dont-email.me:


    Trump-Kim 'Love Letters' Reveal Friendship, Flattery
    September 10, 2020 9:05 AM

    William Gallo

    FILE - North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald
    Trump shake hands during a meeting on the south side of the Military Demarcation Line that divides North and South Korea, in the
    Demilitarized zone (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019. FILE - North
    Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald Trump shake
    hands during a meeting on the south side of the Military Demarcation
    Line that divides North and South Korea, in the Demilitarized zone
    (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019. Share

    Veteran Washington Post journalist Bob Woodwards new book, Rage, is
    shining more light on the unlikely relationship between U.S. President
    Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    The book wont be released until next week, but several U.S. media
    outlets on Wednesday published excerpts, including portions of
    personal letters that Trump and Kim exchanged over the past two years.

    In the letters, the young North Korean leader showers Trump with
    extravagant praise, repeatedly addressing him as Your Excellency and hailing their deep and special friendship, even as the wider
    U.S.-North Korea nuclear talks were breaking down.

    "Even now I cannot forget that moment of history when I firmly held
    Your Excellency's hand at the beautiful and sacred location as the
    whole world watched," Kim told Trump after their first meeting in
    Singapore in June 2018. It was one of two Kim letters published by the U.S.-based cable news network CNN.

    Following their second summit in Vietnam, Kim told Trump every minute
    we shared 103 days ago in Hanoi was also a moment of glory that
    remains a precious memory, according to CNN, which says it obtained transcripts of the two letters.

    Trump often returned the praise.


    Can you imagine the rightwing
    shitstorm if Clinton or Obama had
    bragged about their "love" for a
    communist dictator?

    Esp one that continued to
    threaten America with nuclear
    bombs...........




    North Korea reportedly threatens new round
    of the Korean War to end US
    June 23, 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/r2t4wbf2



    North Korea unveils massive nuclear-
    capable missile with US reach
    October 12, 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/y8kbaz2j



    North Korea signals end of nuclear-test
    suspension, promises 'new' weapon
    Jan 1 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/ut9rwhu



    North Korea's Latest Nuclear Test Was
    More Powerful Than We Thought
    JUN 5, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/y2ms33mp



    New North Korea submarine capable of
    firing ballistic missiles
    3 Nov, 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/yde7jfso



    Trump is letting Kim Jong Un do almost
    anything he wants. Missile tests. Building
    provocative submarines. Its all good.
    Jul 26, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/d67bw6y2

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Kill the Progs on Mon Sep 11 02:24:29 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    Kill the Progs <kill_the_progs@lynch.confederacy> wrote in news:udlt36$jqb4$2@news.mixmin.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Bill Walters <nowomr@protonmail.com> wrote in
    news:udln0t$opq7$3@dont-email.me:


    Trump-Kim 'Love Letters' Reveal Friendship, Flattery
    September 10, 2020 9:05 AM

    William Gallo

    FILE - North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (L) and U.S. President
    Donald Trump shake hands during a meeting on the south side of the
    Military Demarcation Line that divides North and South Korea, in the
    Demilitarized zone (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019. FILE - North
    Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald Trump shake
    hands during a meeting on the south side of the Military Demarcation
    Line that divides North and South Korea, in the Demilitarized zone
    (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019. Share

    Veteran Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward’s new book, Rage,
    is shining more light on the unlikely relationship between U.S.
    President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    The book won’t be released until next week, but several U.S. media
    outlets on Wednesday published excerpts, including portions of
    personal letters that Trump and Kim exchanged over the past two
    years.

    In the letters, the young North Korean leader showers Trump with
    extravagant praise, repeatedly addressing him as “Your
    Excellency” and hailing their “deep and special friendship,”
    even as the wider U.S.-North Korea nuclear talks were breaking down.

    "Even now I cannot forget that moment of history when I firmly held
    Your Excellency's hand at the beautiful and sacred location as the
    whole world watched," Kim told Trump after their first meeting in
    Singapore in June 2018. It was one of two Kim letters published by
    the U.S.-based cable news network CNN.

    Following their second summit in Vietnam, Kim told Trump “every
    minute we shared 103 days ago in Hanoi was also a moment of glory
    that remains a precious memory,” according to CNN, which says it
    obtained transcripts of the two letters.

    Trump often returned the praise.


    Can you imagine the rightwing
    shitstorm if Clinton or Obama had
    bragged about their "love" for a
    communist dictator?

    Esp one that continued to
    threaten America with nuclear
    bombs...........




    North Korea reportedly threatens new round
    of the Korean War to end US
    June 23, 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/r2t4wbf2



    North Korea unveils massive nuclear-
    capable missile with US reach
    October 12, 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/y8kbaz2j



    North Korea signals end of nuclear-test
    suspension, promises 'new' weapon
    Jan 1 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/ut9rwhu



    North Korea's Latest Nuclear Test Was
    More Powerful Than We Thought
    JUN 5, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/y2ms33mp



    New North Korea submarine capable of
    firing ballistic missiles
    3 Nov, 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/yde7jfso



    Trump is letting Kim Jong Un do almost
    anything he wants. Missile tests. Building
    provocative submarines. It’s all good.
    Jul 26, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/d67bw6y2

    Under Trump


    ....all of the above N Korea threats
    to America happened.

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 11 06:57:52 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 02:12:00 +0000, Kill the Progs <kill_the_progs@lynch.confederacy>
    wrote:

    Under Trump, North Korea would have reunified with the South, on
    the South's terms.

    *laughs and points*

    Exactly who do you expect is going to believe that lie?

    Swill
    --
    "He's an IT guy and a computer guy but he's not a cyber guy." - Stupid
    things Mike Lindell says.

    Dead Nazi Series: Nazi spy execution - https://tinyurl.com/ytbrkmnh

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Slva Ukrajni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Frank <"frank@21:1/5 to Bill Walters on Mon Sep 11 10:30:35 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.atheism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 9/10/2023 8:29 PM, Bill Walters wrote:
    Trump-Kim 'Love Letters' Reveal Friendship, Flattery
    September 10, 2020 9:05 AM

    William Gallo

    FILE - North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald
    Trump shake hands during a meeting on the south side of the Military Demarcation Line that divides North and South Korea, in the Demilitarized zone (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019. FILE - North Korea's leader Kim
    Jong Un (L) and U.S. President Donald Trump shake hands during a meeting
    on the south side of the Military Demarcation Line that divides North and South Korea, in the Demilitarized zone (DMZ) of Panmunjom, June 30, 2019. Share

    Veteran Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward’s new book, Rage, is shining more light on the unlikely relationship between U.S. President
    Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    The book won’t be released until next week, but several U.S. media outlets on Wednesday published excerpts, including portions of personal letters
    that Trump and Kim exchanged over the past two years.

    In the letters, the young North Korean leader showers Trump with
    extravagant praise, repeatedly addressing him as “Your Excellency” and hailing their “deep and special friendship,” even as the wider U.S.-North Korea nuclear talks were breaking down.

    "Even now I cannot forget that moment of history when I firmly held Your Excellency's hand at the beautiful and sacred location as the whole world watched," Kim told Trump after their first meeting in Singapore in June
    2018. It was one of two Kim letters published by the U.S.-based cable news network CNN.

    Following their second summit in Vietnam, Kim told Trump “every minute we shared 103 days ago in Hanoi was also a moment of glory that remains a precious memory,” according to CNN, which says it obtained transcripts of the two letters.

    Trump often returned the praise. After their Singapore meeting, Trump described Kim as “far beyond smart,” according to the Post. The paper said
    Trump boasted to Woodward that Kim “tells me everything,” including a graphic description of how he killed his uncle, Jang Song Thaek. The
    powerful Jang was executed in late 2013 for treason.

    Those comments mirror an interview Trump gave to VOA immediately after his Singapore summit, when Trump said Kim was “smart, loves his people, [and] he loves his country.”

    Excessive praise?

    For the book, Woodward says he obtained access to 25 Trump-Kim letters, although it’s not clear how much of the correspondence will be included.

    So far, the excerpts contained no huge surprises about the Trump-Kim relationship, parts of which Trump has already made public. However,
    analysts say the correspondence reveals important insights about each
    man’s personality and negotiating style.

    “It’s interesting to see how you can see Kim’s personality refracted through these letters,” said Jung Pak, a former CIA analyst who now works at the Washington-based Brookings Institution.

    “Surrounded by sycophants his entire life and as an observer and student
    of excessive displays of admiration that enveloped his father and grandfather, Kim Jong Un almost certainly understands how to weaponize
    praise and prey on one’s insecurities and desire for greatness,” said Pak,
    who recently wrote the book Becoming Kim Jong Un.

    Unlikely friendship

    Trump and Kim didn’t always get along. In 2017, the two regularly
    exchanged insults, with Trump calling Kim “Little Rocket Man” and Kim slamming Trump as a “mentally deranged U.S. dotard.” At one point, Trump threatened to "totally destroy" North Korea.

    The tensions dissipated after Trump, a former real estate developer and reality television host who often claims an unmatched deal-making ability, became the first sitting U.S. president to meet a North Korean leader.
    Trump later claimed the two “fell in love.” FILE - In this photo taken June 12, 2018, and released by North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un (R) walks with U.S.
    President Donald Trump (L) during a break in talks at their summit in Singapore. FILE - In this photo taken June 12, 2018, and released by North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), North Korea's leader
    Kim Jong Un (R) walks with U.S. President Donald Trump (L) during a break
    in talks at their summit in Singapore.

    The relationship has held firm, even after North Korea last year resumed short-range ballistic missile tests and walked away from nuclear negotiations.

    If he wins reelection in November, Trump has said he will reach a deal “very quickly” with Kim. Trump’s opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden, has said he will not continue Trump’s personal outreach to Kim, signaling a return to a more traditional U.S. posture.

    Impact on future talks

    Some now fear the publication of the private Trump-Kim letters risks offending North Korean sensitivities and upsetting future talks.

    “That’s privileged diplomatic communication,” said Mark P. Barry, a veteran Korea observer and associate editor of the International Journal
    on World Peace.

    The matter is also tricky, Barry said, because Kim’s words are typically treated with the utmost respect in authoritarian North Korea.

    “The worst that could happen is that internally Kim could appear to be a supplicant to Trump,” he says.

    North Korea has not responded to the release of the correspondence, but Pyongyang may not be too surprised, since Trump previously tweeted out one
    of Kim’s letters in July 2018.

    “It won’t affect Kim Jong Un’s attitude that much," Lee Sang-sin of the Korean Institute for National Unification, said. "Kim understood the possibility of leaking," he said.

    Kathryn Botto, a research analyst in the Asia Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said she wouldn’t be surprised if Kim cited the release of the letters as a reason for refusing to hold talks.

    “More evidence of disrespect from the U.S. or something like that,” she said of a possible North Korean response.

    “But in reality [Kim’s] willingness to hold future talks is based on the potential of securing sanctions relief or other changes in the U.S. negotiating position, and of course this doesn't change that."

    Cracks emerge?

    North Korea has for months boycotted the talks, which began to break down after the February 2019 summit in Hanoi ended without a deal. Trump and
    Kim met once more in June 2019 at the demilitarized zone separating the
    two Koreas, briefly raising hopes the negotiations could be revived.

    A month after the DMZ meeting, though, Kim wrote to Trump “with a new tone,” apparently upset that the U.S.-South Korea joint military exercises had not been fully stopped, CNN reports.

    "I am clearly offended and I do not want to hide this feeling from you,” Kim told Trump. “I am really, very offended.”


    piss away your life nymy

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  • From Kill the Progs@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Sep 12 02:12:00 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 02:12:00 +0000, Kill the Progs <kill_the_progs@lynch.confederacy>
    wrote:

    Under Trump, North Korea would have reunified with the South, on
    the South's terms.

    *laughs and points*

    Exactly who do you expect is going to believe that lie?

    Anyone who isn't a State Department faggot.

    How's your Greatest Ukrainian Counter Offensive going? LOL!

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  • From Leper@21:1/5 to Kill the Progs on Tue Sep 12 00:06:22 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 9/11/2023 9:12 PM, Kill the Progs wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 02:12:00 +0000, Kill the Progs <kill_the_progs@lynch.confederacy>
    wrote:

    Under Trump, North Korea would have reunified with the South, on
    the South's terms.

    *laughs and points*

    Exactly who do you expect is going to believe that lie?

    Anyone who isn't a State Department faggot.

    How's your Greatest Ukrainian Counter Offensive going? LOL!

    Yeah, Slops? Why ain't you out on the front lines in Ukraine, soaking up bullets to protect the Ukrainian soldiers? typical chicken shit big
    mouth paper asshole Hero! Lets see you put some skin in the game.Your
    pretty damned quick to volunteer American military and American
    taxpayers to a job you haven't got the guts to stand up to your own.
    When America was founded, the founding fathers put their lives and
    fortunes on the line. All you have done is blow hot air and bellow how
    America should put its ass on the line for a mess created without good
    reason. There are waaaay to many of you useless blood suckers in our
    beautiful America.

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