• Re: taxes

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Cliff Nielsen on Sat Jan 20 15:35:44 2024
    Cliff Nielsen <porkster1971@att.net> wrote:

    i have filed 2 federal tax returns one from turbo tax another from h@r
    block. my h@r block was rejected because my soical security number is
    the same as someones elses they said what do i do?

    Verify that the Social Security Number is correct. Find your Social
    Security card and make sure that the name you used on the tax return
    matches the name on the card. Print out the tax return. Attach
    a note that the filing was rejected for the stated reason. Photocopy
    your driver's license or other photo ID and your Social Security card.
    Go to the post office retail window, not the retail kiosk. Pay the
    certified mail fee; you don't need to pay the additional fee for
    return receipt. Ask the window clerk to use the rubber date stamp on the certified mail receipt and make sure you have a clear impression.
    Save this with your records.

    Perhaps someone will read the letter and flag the other tax return for
    use of the wrong SSN. I hope it's not fraud.

    Obtaining and retaining that certified mail receipt is key to protecting
    your own interest here. This is why God invented certified mail.

    I would assume that the electronic filing system verifies that the name
    and SSH matches as a minimal anti-fraud check, but I really have no
    idea. Where I still have the option to file on paper, that's what I do.

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  • From Bob Sandler@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 20 19:20:00 2024
    i have filed 2 federal tax returns one from turbo tax
    another from h@r block. my h@r block was rejected
    because my soical security number is the same as
    someones elses they said what do i do?

    Who did you file the two tax returns for? Did you file two
    tax returns for yourself, both returns with your name and
    Social Security number? If so, that's why the second one was
    rejected. You can only file one tax return for each year.
    The reject is not saying that your Social Security number is
    the same as someone else's. It's saying that a tax return
    has already been filed with your Social Security number.

    If that's what happened, you don't do anything right now.
    The first tax return is filed, and that's your tax return.
    If there's an error in it, or something omitted, you have to
    wait until the IRS processes your tax return and you get the
    refund. Then you can file an amended return, Form 1040-X to
    make the correction.

    Bob Sandler

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to Bob Sandler on Sat Jan 20 21:35:11 2024
    Bob Sandler <bob_usenet@yahoo.com> wrote in news:a7ooqil9mpeta5ifv45ljhqiu9spf6g060@4ax.com:

    i have filed 2 federal tax returns one from turbo tax
    another from h@r block. my h@r block was rejected
    because my soical security number is the same as
    someones elses they said what do i do?

    Who did you file the two tax returns for? Did you file two
    tax returns for yourself, both returns with your name and
    Social Security number? If so, that's why the second one was
    rejected. You can only file one tax return for each year.
    The reject is not saying that your Social Security number is
    the same as someone else's. It's saying that a tax return
    has already been filed with your Social Security number.

    If that's what happened, you don't do anything right now.
    The first tax return is filed, and that's your tax return.
    If there's an error in it, or something omitted, you have to
    wait until the IRS processes your tax return and you get the
    refund. Then you can file an amended return, Form 1040-X to
    make the correction.

    If a corrected return is being filed before the due date of the original return, it's a superseding return, and is filed on Form 1040-SR. There
    is no indication in the instructions for the form that it can't be filed
    until the origial return is processed. In fact it has to be filed by the
    due date for the original return. Otherwise, as you say, the taxpayer
    files an amended return instead.


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  • From Bob Sandler@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 20 22:24:57 2024
    i have filed 2 federal tax returns one from turbo tax
    another from h@r block. my h@r block was rejected
    because my soical security number is the same as
    someones elses they said what do i do?

    Who did you file the two tax returns for? Did you file two
    tax returns for yourself, both returns with your name and
    Social Security number? If so, that's why the second one was
    rejected. You can only file one tax return for each year.
    The reject is not saying that your Social Security number is
    the same as someone else's. It's saying that a tax return
    has already been filed with your Social Security number.

    If that's what happened, you don't do anything right now.
    The first tax return is filed, and that's your tax return.
    If there's an error in it, or something omitted, you have to
    wait until the IRS processes your tax return and you get the
    refund. Then you can file an amended return, Form 1040-X to
    make the correction.

    If a corrected return is being filed before the due date of the original >return, it's a superseding return, and is filed on Form 1040-SR. There
    is no indication in the instructions for the form that it can't be filed >until the origial return is processed. In fact it has to be filed by the
    due date for the original return. Otherwise, as you say, the taxpayer
    files an amended return instead.

    As a practical matter, a superseding return would have to be
    paper filed. If you try to e-file it, it will be rejected
    because a return has already been filed with the same SSN.
    Cliff Nielsen, who asked the question, is apparently
    e-filing.

    Bob Sandler

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to ira smilovitz on Sun Jan 21 21:58:09 2024
    ira smilovitz <ira.smilovitz@gmail.com> wrote

    A superseding return is NOT filed on Form 1040-SR. That is the form
    for senior returns. (The print is larger.) Superseding returns are
    filed using Form 1040-X as the cover and including a full copy of the corrected 1040 behind the 1040-X. The top of the first page of Form
    1040 should be marked "SUPERSEDING RETURN."

    Thanks. I misread the information.

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