Just for the record, all of continental southeast Asia's mainline raiwlays are metre-gauge. China is standard gauge with a few exceptions, the most important for this discussion being the old French line from the Vietnamese border at Laocai to Kunming. The line, the former Chemin de fer de l'Indo-Chine et du Yunnan, is metre-gauge and surprisingly busy when I was last in Kunming last year.
It is true that the only gap is Phnom Phen to Saigon, but a good river route exists here and an adequate road. I suspect that part of the aim is the integration of Laos more fully into ASEAN, not to mention facilitating the exploitation of its natural resources by Thai generals, friends of PM Taksin and other assorted well-meaning and altruistic friends of the Lao people. (sorry if I'm laying on the sarcasm a bit thick here)
A route through Laos will not be easy, although the bridge from Nong Khai
(in THailand) across the Mekong to Vientiane already exists and has
provision for a single rail track. But if Laos is hard, then the climb parallel to the Mekong up onto the Yunnan plateau will be the ral challenge. Exactly 100 years ago a (British) Govt of India surveyor described such a route as entailing a series of tunnels like Mt Cenis and bridges like the Menai Straits. Do you get the general idea? The engineering on the CFIY is utterly spectacular, and inlcudes the highest railway bridge in the world, and it takes the EASIEST route up to Yunnan. THe British abandoned their attempt to build a line from Burma into Yunnan at Lashio, before it even reached the Irrawaddy, which forms the border. THat line includes the
world's SECOMD highest bridge.
My opinion is that probably a line will be built into Laos, since there's likely to be money in it for someone, but I can't see the ascent into Yunnan happening in a hurry.
Robert Lee schrieb am Mittwoch, 7. November 2001 um 13:22:28 UTC+1:
Just for the record, all of continental southeast Asia's mainline raiwlays >> are metre-gauge. China is standard gauge with a few exceptions, the most
important for this discussion being the old French line from the Vietnamese >> border at Laocai to Kunming. The line, the former Chemin de fer de
l'Indo-Chine et du Yunnan, is metre-gauge and surprisingly busy when I was >> last in Kunming last year.
It is true that the only gap is Phnom Phen to Saigon, but a good river route >> exists here and an adequate road. I suspect that part of the aim is the
integration of Laos more fully into ASEAN, not to mention facilitating the >> exploitation of its natural resources by Thai generals, friends of PM Taksin >> and other assorted well-meaning and altruistic friends of the Lao people.
(sorry if I'm laying on the sarcasm a bit thick here)
A route through Laos will not be easy, although the bridge from Nong Khai
(in THailand) across the Mekong to Vientiane already exists and has
provision for a single rail track. But if Laos is hard, then the climb
parallel to the Mekong up onto the Yunnan plateau will be the ral challenge. >> Exactly 100 years ago a (British) Govt of India surveyor described such a
route as entailing a series of tunnels like Mt Cenis and bridges like the
Menai Straits. Do you get the general idea? The engineering on the CFIY is >> utterly spectacular, and inlcudes the highest railway bridge in the world, >> and it takes the EASIEST route up to Yunnan. THe British abandoned their
attempt to build a line from Burma into Yunnan at Lashio, before it even
reached the Irrawaddy, which forms the border. THat line includes the
world's SECOMD highest bridge.
My opinion is that probably a line will be built into Laos, since there's
likely to be money in it for someone, but I can't see the ascent into Yunnan >> happening in a hurry.
Well, it took five years to build the line, which was opened six weeks ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boten%E2%80%93Vientiane_railway
Regards, ULF
On 2022-01-19, Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.K...@web.de> wrote:
Robert Lee schrieb am Mittwoch, 7. November 2001 um 13:22:28 UTC+1:When you say "metre-guage" does simply mean it's one-meter, ie: 39.37 inches?
Just for the record, all of continental southeast Asia's mainline raiwlays
are metre-gauge. China is standard gauge with a few exceptions, the most >> important for this discussion being the old French line from the Vietnamese
border at Laocai to Kunming. The line, the former Chemin de fer de
l'Indo-Chine et du Yunnan, is metre-gauge and surprisingly busy when I was
last in Kunming last year.
pH in Aptos
Yes, I could look it up...it's more fun to keep Usenet active.
It is true that the only gap is Phnom Phen to Saigon, but a good river route
exists here and an adequate road. I suspect that part of the aim is the >> integration of Laos more fully into ASEAN, not to mention facilitating the
exploitation of its natural resources by Thai generals, friends of PM Taksin
and other assorted well-meaning and altruistic friends of the Lao people. >> (sorry if I'm laying on the sarcasm a bit thick here)
A route through Laos will not be easy, although the bridge from Nong Khai >> (in THailand) across the Mekong to Vientiane already exists and has
provision for a single rail track. But if Laos is hard, then the climb
parallel to the Mekong up onto the Yunnan plateau will be the ral challenge.
Exactly 100 years ago a (British) Govt of India surveyor described such a >> route as entailing a series of tunnels like Mt Cenis and bridges like the >> Menai Straits. Do you get the general idea? The engineering on the CFIY is
utterly spectacular, and inlcudes the highest railway bridge in the world,
and it takes the EASIEST route up to Yunnan. THe British abandoned their >> attempt to build a line from Burma into Yunnan at Lashio, before it even >> reached the Irrawaddy, which forms the border. THat line includes the
world's SECOMD highest bridge.
My opinion is that probably a line will be built into Laos, since there's >> likely to be money in it for someone, but I can't see the ascent into Yunnan
happening in a hurry.
Well, it took five years to build the line, which was opened six weeks ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boten%E2%80%93Vientiane_railway
pH schrieb am Donnerstag, 20. Januar 2022 um 02:30:03 UTC+1:
On 2022-01-19, Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.K...@web.de> wrote:
Robert Lee schrieb am Mittwoch, 7. November 2001 um 13:22:28 UTC+1:When you say "metre-guage" does simply mean it's one-meter, ie: 39.37
Just for the record, all of continental southeast Asia's mainline raiwlays
are metre-gauge. China is standard gauge with a few exceptions, the most >> >> important for this discussion being the old French line from the Vietnamese
border at Laocai to Kunming. The line, the former Chemin de fer de
l'Indo-Chine et du Yunnan, is metre-gauge and surprisingly busy when I was
last in Kunming last year.
inches?
pH in Aptos
Yes, I could look it up...it's more fun to keep Usenet active.
It is true that the only gap is Phnom Phen to Saigon, but a good river route
exists here and an adequate road. I suspect that part of the aim is the >> >> integration of Laos more fully into ASEAN, not to mention facilitating the
exploitation of its natural resources by Thai generals, friends of PM Taksin
and other assorted well-meaning and altruistic friends of the Lao people. >> >> (sorry if I'm laying on the sarcasm a bit thick here)
A route through Laos will not be easy, although the bridge from Nong Khai >> >> (in THailand) across the Mekong to Vientiane already exists and has
provision for a single rail track. But if Laos is hard, then the climb
parallel to the Mekong up onto the Yunnan plateau will be the ral challenge.
Exactly 100 years ago a (British) Govt of India surveyor described such a >> >> route as entailing a series of tunnels like Mt Cenis and bridges like the >> >> Menai Straits. Do you get the general idea? The engineering on the CFIY is
utterly spectacular, and inlcudes the highest railway bridge in the world,
and it takes the EASIEST route up to Yunnan. THe British abandoned their >> >> attempt to build a line from Burma into Yunnan at Lashio, before it even >> >> reached the Irrawaddy, which forms the border. THat line includes the
world's SECOMD highest bridge.
My opinion is that probably a line will be built into Laos, since there's >> >> likely to be money in it for someone, but I can't see the ascent into Yunnan
happening in a hurry.
Well, it took five years to build the line, which was opened six weeks ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boten%E2%80%93Vientiane_railway
As far as I am concerned, I say metric gauge.
Hm. „Metric gauge may refer to: Metre gauge, a rail gauge [...]“ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_gauge
Given here in feet and inches: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre-gauge_railway
Regards, ULF
Ah! Danke fur die auskunft. (Probably all mis-spelled....)
pH schrieb am Freitag, 21. Januar 2022 um 01:53:32 UTC+1:
Ah! Danke fur die auskunft. (Probably all mis-spelled....)
No, just two points:
We use a non-ASCII letter in für.
Auskunft as a noun should be capitalised/capitalized (like names of days of the week,
months, languages or adjectives referring to nationality or ethnicity in English).
Regards, ULF
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