• Re: Scarborough RT

    From Ulf Kutzner@21:1/5 to Tom_Pa...@mindlink.bc.ca on Fri Aug 25 03:17:43 2023
    Tom_Pa...@mindlink.bc.ca schrieb am Dienstag, 4. Juni 1996 um 09:00:00 UTC+2:
    m...@sq.com (Mark Brader) wrote:
    As I recall, the Scarborough line was intended to be operated by
    LRVs originally,
    By streetcars, yes. But it was also intended to be what in Europe is >sometimes called a pre-Metro: it would be upgradeable later to a subway >line -- obviously, an extension of the existing subway -- when demand >warranted. This limited where it could be built.
    The original TTC staff's (I was one) preference was for an extension of the subway. NIMBY opposition from Scarborough was so strong--based on noise--that the second design was light rail with curves and connections that forever precluded conversion to subway. Definitely not pre-metro. The TTC failed to offer the obvious solution--noise reduced and buffered subway. They feared this
    would set a precedent for the rest of the system--or at least the at-grade sections. They did cost an all underground subway--obviously too expensive. Political games then imposed the UTDC ICTS system. Instead of making the most of
    this and getting the operating cost and service frequency benefits, the TTC insisted on expensive redesigns and then staffing and operating the line like a
    1930's streetcar. Later several of the "redesigns" had to be fixed. But the great TTC always knows what is best.

    The line has been closed earlier than planned:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_3_Scarborough

    Regards, ULF

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