• Re: paganini deleting legit google grope posts.

    From Ray Banana@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 6 02:18:58 2023
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    * Jesse Rehmer wrote:

    Curious if you'll publish your NoCeM details in the 'registry' or announce otherwise? I went ahead and added your entry and key, but may be worth announcing somewhere so others can take advantage. Or maybe you did somewhere and I missed it.

    My original plan was to run a burn-in test for 4 weeks and then submitting
    all necessara information to the NoCeM registry. As the situation with Google escalated over the last couple of days, I decided to start publishing the
    NoCeM notices in news.lists.filters right away and do the administrative
    work as my limited time allowed.

    Ivo has already posted the link to Eternal-September's NoCeM page

    https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=nocem

    More information will be added to that page as the work progresses
    and I will submit all required information to the NoCeM registry.



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  • From Jack@21:1/5 to Ray Banana on Fri Oct 6 02:30:00 2023
    On 06/10/2023 03:18, Ray Banana wrote:

    As the situation with Google
    escalated over the last couple of days, I decided to start publishing the NoCeM notices in news.lists.filters right away


    Yes you have replaced Google spam with your spam. That's a very bright idea!!!!!.

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  • From Jesse Rehmer@21:1/5 to Ray Banana on Fri Oct 6 14:19:30 2023
    On Oct 5, 2023 at 9:18:58 PM CDT, "Ray Banana" <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:

    * Jesse Rehmer wrote:

    Curious if you'll publish your NoCeM details in the 'registry' or announce >> otherwise? I went ahead and added your entry and key, but may be worth
    announcing somewhere so others can take advantage. Or maybe you did somewhere
    and I missed it.

    My original plan was to run a burn-in test for 4 weeks and then submitting all necessara information to the NoCeM registry. As the situation with Google escalated over the last couple of days, I decided to start publishing the NoCeM notices in news.lists.filters right away and do the administrative
    work as my limited time allowed.

    Ivo has already posted the link to Eternal-September's NoCeM page

    https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=nocem

    More information will be added to that page as the work progresses
    and I will submit all required information to the NoCeM registry.

    Makes sense. I happen to be one of the weirdos who looks at news.lists.filters every once in a while and noticed them and that it seemed at least a few operators were aware.

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  • From Adam W.@21:1/5 to Ray Banana on Thu Oct 12 01:36:01 2023
    In news.admin.net-abuse.usenet Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:

    My original plan was to run a burn-in test for 4 weeks and then submitting all necessara information to the NoCeM registry. As the situation with Google escalated over the last couple of days, I decided to start publishing the NoCeM notices in news.lists.filters right away and do the administrative
    work as my limited time allowed.

    On which hierarchies are you running this filter?

    pl.* is infested as well (see pl.soc.polityka), but it seems the filter
    doesn't catch it.

    Is it possible to add pl.* to the list of hierarchies that are checked?

    Thanks for your work!

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  • From Ray Banana@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 12 03:57:35 2023
    * Adam W. wrote:
    On which hierarchies are you running this filter?

    I run the filter on ALL articles originating from Google Groups
    and I noticed that some postings to pl.* are blocked already.

    OTOH, spam from GG seems to be carefully crafted for specific hierarchies
    or even newsgroups. I need to take a closer look at pl.* to find out
    the specifics for this type of spam.

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  • From Adam W.@21:1/5 to Adam W. on Thu Oct 12 12:07:16 2023
    Adam W. <gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid> wrote:

    I run the filter on ALL articles originating from Google Groups
    and I noticed that some postings to pl.* are blocked already.

    OTOH, spam from GG seems to be carefully crafted for specific hierarchies
    or even newsgroups. I need to take a closer look at pl.* to find out
    the specifics for this type of spam.

    Thanks!

    And by the way, sometimes some contents (or maybe Subject?) of spam
    messages ends up in the notice as well. See this msgid for example:

    Message-ID: <20231012111504$ff6e@news.eternal-september.org>

    It contains these lines:

    #v+
    <873b5879-ed41-4b22-9dcd-24488b878783n@googlegroups.com> soc.culture.punjab
    =20
    =20
    +27718057023 PROCEDURE OF JOINING GREAT ILLUMINATI TEMPLE Of MONEY AND P= <32b70e6e-76af-4139-83e1-cc4b3f2c9535n@googlegroups.com> comp.lang.c
    #v-

    So two proper msgids and some spam text between them.

    I'm not sure how or if it affects NoCeM processing but it might be worth looking at.

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  • From Adam W.@21:1/5 to Ray Banana on Thu Oct 12 12:03:02 2023
    Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:

    On which hierarchies are you running this filter?

    I run the filter on ALL articles originating from Google Groups
    and I noticed that some postings to pl.* are blocked already.

    OTOH, spam from GG seems to be carefully crafted for specific hierarchies
    or even newsgroups. I need to take a closer look at pl.* to find out
    the specifics for this type of spam.

    Thanks!

    I just looked at posting statistics per group (I collect them daily):

    http://news.chmurka.net/stats.php

    (it's in Polish, but it's mostly data anyway)

    It looks like only pl.soc.polityka has been affected by it so far.

    I processed all NoCeM notices that I have on news.lists.filters and it
    cleaned up comp.lang.c, but there's still this spam on pl.soc.polityka. Is there any chance for you to run the filter on all posts that are on this
    group and emit a NoCeM notice for them?

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  • From Ray Banana@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 12 14:19:01 2023
    * Adam W. wrote:
    And by the way, sometimes some contents (or maybe Subject?) of spam
    messages ends up in the notice as well. See this msgid for example:

    Message-ID: <20231012111504$ff6e@news.eternal-september.org>

    It contains these lines:

    #v+
    <873b5879-ed41-4b22-9dcd-24488b878783n@googlegroups.com> soc.culture.punjab
    =20
    =20
    +27718057023 PROCEDURE OF JOINING GREAT ILLUMINATI TEMPLE Of MONEY AND P= <32b70e6e-76af-4139-83e1-cc4b3f2c9535n@googlegroups.com> comp.lang.c #v-

    So two proper msgids and some spam text between them.

    Thanks. I noticed this issue earlier on, but it only happens for some
    malformed articles (about 2 in 1000 articles). I suspect this is a bug
    in the News::Article module that is used by News::Article::NoCem, but
    I haven't nailed it yet, because

    I'm not sure how or if it affects NoCeM processing but it might be worth looking at.

    perl-nocem will just ignore these lines, because it's looking for a <message.id>, so this is an esthetic problem and doen't cause
    any problem otherwise.

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  • From Adam W.@21:1/5 to Ray Banana on Thu Oct 12 17:09:49 2023
    Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:

    I'm not sure how or if it affects NoCeM processing but it might be worth
    looking at.

    perl-nocem will just ignore these lines, because it's looking for a <message.id>, so this is an esthetic problem and doen't cause
    any problem otherwise.

    Sure, thanks for clarification!

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  • From Ray Banana@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 13 07:50:41 2023
    * Adam W. wrote:
    I just looked at posting statistics per group (I collect them daily):

    http://news.chmurka.net/stats.php

    (it's in Polish, but it's mostly data anyway)

    It looks like only pl.soc.polityka has been affected by it so far.

    I processed all NoCeM notices that I have on news.lists.filters and it cleaned up comp.lang.c, but there's still this spam on pl.soc.polityka. Is there any chance for you to run the filter on all posts that are on this group and emit a NoCeM notice for them?

    I have a list of all spam messages in pl.soc.polityka (~4000).
    Since you are looking for a way to save these articles prior
    deleting them, I will not sent a NoCeM report for these articles
    without prior warning, so please inform me when it's OK to send it.


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  • From Adam W.@21:1/5 to Ray Banana on Fri Oct 13 14:52:45 2023
    Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:

    I have a list of all spam messages in pl.soc.polityka (~4000).
    Since you are looking for a way to save these articles prior
    deleting them, I will not sent a NoCeM report for these articles
    without prior warning, so please inform me when it's OK to send it.

    It was just a thought, something that would be nice to have. But it's
    okay, I don't need to save them. Go ahead.

    Thanks.

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