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    From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 13:04:15 2023
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.

    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

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    Yasutaka Tsutsui , author of "Paprika".

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to spibou@gmail.com on Tue Oct 31 13:54:34 2023
    In article <EvJxBywITbfdDd2ZG@bongo-ra.co>,
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.


    Check!

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.


    GG ban justified

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.


    All right.

    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.


    bit?

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.


    The best solution: Depeer Google GRoups from Usenet
    and teach Google a Lesson in Manners!

    https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7122352592692658177/?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7122352592692658177%2C7122915621796818945%29&dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd%5Fcomment%3A%287122915621796818945%2Curn%3Ali%
    3Aactivity%3A7122352592692658177%29


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    into a novel. But I say that transcribing what occurs in reality is cheating.
    Yasutaka Tsutsui , author of "Paprika".


    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Those who are spreading confusion are not spreading truth. -unknown https://mindspring.com

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 13:54:58 2023
    In article <6b6bc8ee5d2588a14f752bf700322a9b@dizum.com>, D <J@M> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:04:15 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras ><spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering : >>comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is >>October 27th.
    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.
    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >>comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.
    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.
    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    and what percentage are ghoul goo . . . ninety-eight . . . ninety-nine ?


    Good one GG is Ghoul Goo!
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  • From Eric M@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 13:58:59 2023
    Le 31/10/2023 à 14:04, Spiros Bousbouras a écrit :

    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.

    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    I keep reporting spam on this groups, maybe it works only if many people
    do it. You can select up to 30 threads in a page so it's easy to report a
    few thousand messages (takes 2 minutes a day).

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to conanospamic@gmail.com on Tue Oct 31 14:09:54 2023
    In article <yuI3bBQp_jbTezrwqnfDQl0954Y@jntp>,
    Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 31/10/2023 à 14:04, Spiros Bousbouras a écrit :

    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.

    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    I keep reporting spam on this groups, maybe it works only if many people
    do it. You can select up to 30 threads in a page so it's easy to report a
    few thousand messages (takes 2 minutes a day).

    Keep reporting. I am banning GG from my network. High abuse, no action taken.

    https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7122352592692658177/?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7122352592692658177%2C7122915621796818945%29&dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd%5Fcomment%3A%287122915621796818945%2Curn%3Ali%
    3Aactivity%3A7122352592692658177%29
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  • From D@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Tue Oct 31 14:33:04 2023
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:04:15 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering : >comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.
    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.
    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.
    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.
    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    and what percentage are ghoul goo . . . ninety-eight . . . ninety-nine ?

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  • From D@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Oct 31 15:53:35 2023
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:54:58 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
    In article <6b6bc8ee5d2588a14f752bf700322a9b@dizum.com>, D <J@M> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:04:15 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras >><spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering : >>>comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is >>>October 27th.
    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.
    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >>>comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.
    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.
    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    and what percentage are ghoul goo . . . ninety-eight . . . ninety-nine ?

    Good one GG is Ghoul Goo!

    Noun: ghoul goo(-u)l
    1. Someone who takes bodies from graves and sells them for
    anatomical dissection
    2. An evil spirit or ghost

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 15:43:47 2023
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 14:33:04 +0100 (CET)
    D <J@M> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:04:15 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering : >comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is >October 27th.
    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.
    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.
    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.
    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    and what percentage are ghoul goo . . . ninety-eight . . . ninety-nine ?

    Taking a random sample and also taking into account recent experience ,
    I would say 100% .

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Oct 31 15:50:14 2023
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:54:34 -0000 (UTC)
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
    In article <EvJxBywITbfdDd2ZG@bongo-ra.co>,
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is >October 27th.


    Check!

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.


    GG ban justified

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.


    All right.

    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    bit?

    For today (October 31st) I only see 2 spam posts. There are a few others
    where someone is trying to convince people to continue Forth discussion
    on facebook (oh dear) but these are from a legitimate poster in general.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.


    The best solution: Depeer Google GRoups from Usenet

    Also deapple , dewatermelon and , ideally , de<all other fruit> .

    and teach Google a Lesson in Manners!

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to Eric M on Tue Oct 31 15:56:55 2023
    On Tue, 31 Oct 23 13:58:59 +0000
    Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 31/10/2023 14:04, Spiros Bousbouras a écrit :

    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.

    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    I keep reporting spam on this groups, maybe it works only if many people
    do it. You can select up to 30 threads in a page so it's easy to report a
    few thousand messages (takes 2 minutes a day).

    Reporting it where ? If you mean reporting it through the googlegroups interface , it's a waste of time as the experience of many people over
    many years (and also in the last few weeks) has shown. It only affects
    what is shown to the person who did the reporting when they are logged
    in to their Google account , nothing more than that.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/10/2023 15:56, Spiros Bousbouras
    wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:Hi2bJFn0zZMITPrqt@bongo-ra.co">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Reporting it where ? If you mean reporting it through the googlegroups
    interface , it's a waste of time as the experience of many people over
    many years </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Are you surprised by this? Google's business is Advertising and
    something you call spam is actually advertisements for products.<br>
    <br>
    People must be mad to think that google will ban advertising on its
    platform.<br>
    <br>
    All the news-server managers have gone mad trying to filter out
    Google advertisements. They need their brain examined by Dr Google.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
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    <div class="bottom">Dictator Putin</div>
    <br>
    <div class="top">We Stand</div>
    <div class="bottom">With Ukraine</div>
    <br>
    <div class="top border1">Stop Putin</div>
    <div class="bottom border">Ukraine Under Attack</div>
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  • From Eric M@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 16:39:18 2023
    Le 31/10/2023 à 16:56, Spiros Bousbouras a écrit :

    I keep reporting spam on this groups, maybe it works only if many people
    do it. You can select up to 30 threads in a page so it's easy to report a
    few thousand messages (takes 2 minutes a day).

    Reporting it where ? If you mean reporting it through the googlegroups interface , it's a waste of time as the experience of many people over
    many years (and also in the last few weeks) has shown. It only affects
    what is shown to the person who did the reporting when they are logged
    in to their Google account , nothing more than that.

    Yes, I think it's a waste of time too, but I only waste two minutes and
    who knows, maybe it will be useful one day, I'm an optimistic :)

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  • From Richard Harnden@21:1/5 to Mike Terry on Tue Oct 31 17:37:25 2023
    On 31/10/2023 17:22, Mike Terry wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on  news.cyber23.de  which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.

    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.


    I believe Google has acted on comp.lang.c by blocking all new posts from GG.  (When I tried posting it told me I didn't have permission to post
    for that group, but I don't usually use GG, so I'm not sure...)

    Mike.



    They have greyed-out the '+ New conversation' button, and attempting to
    reply to an existing thread says 'You do not have permission to post to
    this group', as Mike said.

    I guess it means that someone a google has finally gotten off their fat
    lazy arse.

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  • From Mike Terry@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Tue Oct 31 17:22:53 2023
    On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.

    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.


    I believe Google has acted on comp.lang.c by blocking all new posts from GG. (When I tried posting
    it told me I didn't have permission to post for that group, but I don't usually use GG, so I'm not
    sure...)

    Mike.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Tue Oct 31 18:59:30 2023
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 15:43:47 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 14:33:04 +0100 (CET)
    D <J@M> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:04:15 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :
    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.
    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.
    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.
    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.
    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.
    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    and what percentage are ghoul goo . . . ninety-eight . . . ninety-nine ?

    Taking a random sample and also taking into account recent experience ,
    I would say 100% .

    even that seems unusual, compared with other popular newsgroups that
    have been routinely infiltrated and occupied by recurring troll farm
    characters posting from non-google servers . . . but 100% seems like
    a waste of google's inexhaustible resources to flood dead newsgroups,
    unless part of their apparently top-secret mission is to burden nntp
    news servers along with those subscribing to newsgroups with as much
    ugliness as they can possibly muster . . . and nobody does that like

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Richard Harnden on Tue Oct 31 18:30:51 2023
    Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 17:22, Mike Terry wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on  news.cyber23.de  which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >>
    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    I believe Google has acted on comp.lang.c by blocking all new posts from GG.  (When I tried posting it told me I didn't have permission to post
    for that group, but I don't usually use GG, so I'm not sure...)

    Mike.

    They have greyed-out the '+ New conversation' button, and attempting to
    reply to an existing thread says 'You do not have permission to post to
    this group', as Mike said.

    I guess it means that someone a google has finally gotten off their fat
    lazy arse.

    Yes, they seem to have blocked all new posts from GG in comp.lang.c,
    both new threads (+ New conversation') and responses to existing
    threads, because I *can* still post from GG in another comp.* group
    (which also has some, but not immense amounts of, Thai/<whatever> spam),
    but *not* in comp.lang.c ('You don't have permission to post to this
    group').

    But AFAICT, this doesn't really solve anything, because now legit
    Google Groups posters can no longer post in comp.lang.c (and probably
    neither in some other closed groups, if any) either.

    AFAIK, the original intent was to not block/filter legit Google Groups posters.

    So while the burden of GG spam filtering has been shifted from the
    user to the news admins (much appreciated), we lost the legit Google
    Groups posters.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Tue Oct 31 19:19:35 2023
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 15:50:14 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:54:34 -0000 (UTC)
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
    In article <EvJxBywITbfdDd2ZG@bongo-ra.co>,
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :
    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.
    Check!
    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.
    GG ban justified
    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.
    All right.
    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.
    bit?
    For today (October 31st) I only see 2 spam posts. There are a few others >where someone is trying to convince people to continue Forth discussion
    on facebook (oh dear) but these are from a legitimate poster in general.
    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.
    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.
    The best solution: Depeer Google GRoups from Usenet
    Also deapple , dewatermelon and , ideally , de<all other fruit> .
    and teach Google a Lesson in Manners!

    and or course social media is moderated . . . as opposed to unmoderated;
    this same tactic is being systematically deployed throughout unmoderated newsgroups . . . can't imagine why these operatives would act in cahoots?

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Tue Oct 31 20:41:42 2023
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 17:22, Mike Terry wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on  news.cyber23.de  which I don't think does any filtering : >>>>
    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >>>>
    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    I believe Google has acted on comp.lang.c by blocking all new posts from >>> GG.  (When I tried posting it told me I didn't have permission to post
    for that group, but I don't usually use GG, so I'm not sure...)

    Mike.

    They have greyed-out the '+ New conversation' button, and attempting to
    reply to an existing thread says 'You do not have permission to post to
    this group', as Mike said.

    I guess it means that someone a google has finally gotten off their fat
    lazy arse.

    Yes, they seem to have blocked all new posts from GG in comp.lang.c,
    both new threads (+ New conversation') and responses to existing
    threads, because I *can* still post from GG in another comp.* group
    (which also has some, but not immense amounts of, Thai/<whatever> spam),
    but *not* in comp.lang.c ('You don't have permission to post to this
    group').

    But AFAICT, this doesn't really solve anything, because now legit
    Google Groups posters can no longer post in comp.lang.c (and probably
    neither in some other closed groups, if any) either.

    AFAIK, the original intent was to not block/filter legit Google Groups posters.

    So while the burden of GG spam filtering has been shifted from the
    user to the news admins (much appreciated), we lost the legit Google
    Groups posters.


    Well maybe someone should post an explanation to affected groups, along
    with a suggestion of alternatives to GG. After recent events this is
    pretty much the best outcome we could hope for, the GG archives are
    still there but nothing new can be posted.
    Maybe the GG admins can come up with a better solution in a week or so.

    Ideally the spam would all be retrospectively deleted (by GG), giving us
    access to the older non-spam messages, that is probably too much to hope
    for. I am subscribed to one of the affected groups and I "cleaned
    things up" by deleting all Message-IDs from @gmail.com and
    @googlemail.com, obviously there were a lot of false-positives there but
    I did not have the time, inclination (or the technical possibilities) to implement more sophisticated solutions.

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  • From Eric M@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 21:38:51 2023
    Le 31/10/2023 à 18:22, Mike Terry a écrit :

    I believe Google has acted on comp.lang.c by blocking all new posts from GG. (When I tried posting
    it told me I didn't have permission to post for that group, but I don't usually
    use GG, so I'm not
    sure...)

    Same thing on comp.arch now, comp.lang.fortran looks weird (only one
    thread).

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to spibou@gmail.com on Tue Oct 31 23:41:30 2023
    In article <FsLc7ytxE1wPrXeKr@bongo-ra.co>,
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 14:33:04 +0100 (CET)
    D <J@M> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:04:15 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras ><spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :
    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.
    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.
    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.
    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.
    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.
    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    and what percentage are ghoul goo . . . ninety-eight . . . ninety-nine ?

    Taking a random sample and also taking into account recent experience ,
    I would say 100% .

    Way too much.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 23:41:12 2023
    In article <302bc7efa8486a3cdd2b9031475a15b6@dizum.com>, D <J@M> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:54:58 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The >Doctor) wrote:
    In article <6b6bc8ee5d2588a14f752bf700322a9b@dizum.com>, D <J@M> wrote: >>>On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:04:15 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras >>><spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering : >>>>comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is >>>>October 27th.
    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.
    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >>>>comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.
    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.
    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    and what percentage are ghoul goo . . . ninety-eight . . . ninety-nine ?

    Good one GG is Ghoul Goo!

    Noun: ghoul goo(-u)l
    1. Someone who takes bodies from graves and sells them for
    anatomical dissection
    2. An evil spirit or ghost


    Google is evil!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling. on Tue Oct 31 23:42:29 2023
    In article <iMWdnVed06hwqtz4nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>,
    Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th.

    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.


    I believe Google has acted on comp.lang.c by blocking all new posts from
    GG. (When I tried posting
    it told me I didn't have permission to post for that group, but I don't >usually use GG, so I'm not
    sure...)

    Mike.



    That mean abandon your google groups account for a real news server!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 23:43:20 2023
    In article <33a15bddcf9472ecccddaed880829ca4@dizum.com>, D <J@M> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 15:43:47 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras ><spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 14:33:04 +0100 (CET)
    D <J@M> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:04:15 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras ><spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :
    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.
    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.
    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >>> >comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.
    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.
    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    and what percentage are ghoul goo . . . ninety-eight . . . ninety-nine ?

    Taking a random sample and also taking into account recent experience ,
    I would say 100% .

    even that seems unusual, compared with other popular newsgroups that
    have been routinely infiltrated and occupied by recurring troll farm >characters posting from non-google servers . . . but 100% seems like
    a waste of google's inexhaustible resources to flood dead newsgroups,
    unless part of their apparently top-secret mission is to burden nntp
    news servers along with those subscribing to newsgroups with as much
    ugliness as they can possibly muster . . . and nobody does that like


    Hence why depeering GG is a good solution.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to richard.harnden@invalid.com on Tue Oct 31 23:42:55 2023
    In article <uhre0o$15501$1@dont-email.me>,
    Richard Harnden <richard.harnden@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 17:22, Mike Terry wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on  news.cyber23.de  which I don't think does any filtering : >>>
    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >>>
    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.


    I believe Google has acted on comp.lang.c by blocking all new posts from
    GG.  (When I tried posting it told me I didn't have permission to post
    for that group, but I don't usually use GG, so I'm not sure...)

    Mike.



    They have greyed-out the '+ New conversation' button, and attempting to
    reply to an existing thread says 'You do not have permission to post to
    this group', as Mike said.

    I guess it means that someone a google has finally gotten off their fat
    lazy arse.


    That mean the solution does not exist for Google Froups.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to this@ddress.is.invalid on Tue Oct 31 23:43:51 2023
    In article <uhrkk8.12ig.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>,
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 17:22, Mike Terry wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on  news.cyber23.de  which I don't think does any filtering :

    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is
    October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >> >>
    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent.

    I believe Google has acted on comp.lang.c by blocking all new posts from >> > GG.  (When I tried posting it told me I didn't have permission to post
    for that group, but I don't usually use GG, so I'm not sure...)

    Mike.

    They have greyed-out the '+ New conversation' button, and attempting to
    reply to an existing thread says 'You do not have permission to post to
    this group', as Mike said.

    I guess it means that someone a google has finally gotten off their fat
    lazy arse.

    Yes, they seem to have blocked all new posts from GG in comp.lang.c,
    both new threads (+ New conversation') and responses to existing
    threads, because I *can* still post from GG in another comp.* group
    (which also has some, but not immense amounts of, Thai/<whatever> spam),
    but *not* in comp.lang.c ('You don't have permission to post to this
    group').

    But AFAICT, this doesn't really solve anything, because now legit
    Google Groups posters can no longer post in comp.lang.c (and probably
    neither in some other closed groups, if any) either.

    AFAIK, the original intent was to not block/filter legit Google Groups
    posters.

    So while the burden of GG spam filtering has been shifted from the
    user to the news admins (much appreciated), we lost the legit Google
    Groups posters.

    In which case sign off google and find another more reliable provider.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Doug@hyperspace.vogon.gov on Tue Oct 31 23:44:18 2023
    In article <uhrl9n$3fjpb$1@paganini.bofh.team>,
    Andrew <Doug@hyperspace.vogon.gov> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 17:22, Mike Terry wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on  news.cyber23.de  which I don't think does any filtering : >>>>>
    comp.lang.c : spam has stopped , latest date for which I see spam is >>>>> October 27th.

    comp.lang.fortran , comp.arch , sci.lang.japan : a lot.

    comp.lang.cobol : spam has stopped , there was a lot until October 25th. >>>>>
    comp.lang.forth : a bit of spam.

    comp.misc : never got any spam with the recent flood.

    I wonder if the spammers have a plan or it's random to a large extent. >>>>
    I believe Google has acted on comp.lang.c by blocking all new posts from >>>> GG.  (When I tried posting it told me I didn't have permission to post >>>> for that group, but I don't usually use GG, so I'm not sure...)

    Mike.

    They have greyed-out the '+ New conversation' button, and attempting to
    reply to an existing thread says 'You do not have permission to post to
    this group', as Mike said.

    I guess it means that someone a google has finally gotten off their fat
    lazy arse.

    Yes, they seem to have blocked all new posts from GG in comp.lang.c,
    both new threads (+ New conversation') and responses to existing
    threads, because I *can* still post from GG in another comp.* group
    (which also has some, but not immense amounts of, Thai/<whatever> spam),
    but *not* in comp.lang.c ('You don't have permission to post to this
    group').

    But AFAICT, this doesn't really solve anything, because now legit
    Google Groups posters can no longer post in comp.lang.c (and probably
    neither in some other closed groups, if any) either.

    AFAIK, the original intent was to not block/filter legit Google Groups
    posters.

    So while the burden of GG spam filtering has been shifted from the
    user to the news admins (much appreciated), we lost the legit Google
    Groups posters.


    Well maybe someone should post an explanation to affected groups, along
    with a suggestion of alternatives to GG. After recent events this is
    pretty much the best outcome we could hope for, the GG archives are
    still there but nothing new can be posted.
    Maybe the GG admins can come up with a better solution in a week or so.

    Ideally the spam would all be retrospectively deleted (by GG), giving us >access to the older non-spam messages, that is probably too much to hope
    for. I am subscribed to one of the affected groups and I "cleaned
    things up" by deleting all Message-IDs from @gmail.com and
    @googlemail.com, obviously there were a lot of false-positives there but
    I did not have the time, inclination (or the technical possibilities) to >implement more sophisticated solutions.

    Too bad GG doesn ot cancelbot itself!
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  • From Adam W.@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Fri Nov 3 12:08:59 2023
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:

    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    Let's try my spam group for comp.* for November...

    It looks they moved mostly to comp.cad.cadence.

    [news@kvm ~]$ tdx-util -o -n chmurka.spam.comp.thai | grep 'Nov 2023' | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -gr
    50656 [comp.cad.cadence]
    5517 [comp.ai.neural-nets]
    4694 [comp.text.tex]
    2608 [comp.theory]
    813 [comp.databases]
    794 [comp.protocols.time.ntp]
    575 [comp.programming.threads]
    286 [comp.lang.xharbour]
    121 [comp.os.linux.misc]
    99 [comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects]
    33 [comp.lang.cobol]
    25 [comp.lang.forth]
    25 [comp.dcom.sys.cisco]
    19 [comp.lang.python]
    15 [comp.lang.verilog]
    6 [comp.sys.acorn.misc]
    5 [comp.software.testing]
    5 [comp.security.ssh]
    5 [comp.os.msdos.djgpp]
    4 [comp.lang.fortran]
    3 [comp.os.vms]
    2 [comp.protocols.tcp-ip]
    2 [comp.protocols.kerberos]
    2 [comp.editors]
    1 [comp.text.pdf]
    1 [comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains]
    1 [comp.protocols.nfs]
    1 [comp.protocols.dicom]
    1 [comp.mobile.android]
    1 [comp.mail.sendmail]
    1 [comp.lang.c++]
    1 [comp.arch.embedded]

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Adam W. on Fri Nov 3 14:30:47 2023
    In article <ui2nsq$aob$2$arnold@news.chmurka.net>,
    Adam W. <gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid> wrote:
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:

    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    Let's try my spam group for comp.* for November...

    It looks they moved mostly to comp.cad.cadence.

    [news@kvm ~]$ tdx-util -o -n chmurka.spam.comp.thai | grep 'Nov 2023' |
    awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -gr
    50656 [comp.cad.cadence]
    5517 [comp.ai.neural-nets]
    4694 [comp.text.tex]
    2608 [comp.theory]
    813 [comp.databases]
    794 [comp.protocols.time.ntp]
    575 [comp.programming.threads]
    286 [comp.lang.xharbour]
    121 [comp.os.linux.misc]
    99 [comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects]
    33 [comp.lang.cobol]
    25 [comp.lang.forth]
    25 [comp.dcom.sys.cisco]
    19 [comp.lang.python]
    15 [comp.lang.verilog]
    6 [comp.sys.acorn.misc]
    5 [comp.software.testing]
    5 [comp.security.ssh]
    5 [comp.os.msdos.djgpp]
    4 [comp.lang.fortran]
    3 [comp.os.vms]
    2 [comp.protocols.tcp-ip]
    2 [comp.protocols.kerberos]
    2 [comp.editors]
    1 [comp.text.pdf]
    1 [comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains]
    1 [comp.protocols.nfs]
    1 [comp.protocols.dicom]
    1 [comp.mobile.android]
    1 [comp.mail.sendmail]
    1 [comp.lang.c++]
    1 [comp.arch.embedded]

    Sad idiots!
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  • From D@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Fri Nov 3 16:49:50 2023
    On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 14:30:47 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
    In article <ui2nsq$aob$2$arnold@news.chmurka.net>,
    Adam W. <gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid> wrote:
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering : >>Let's try my spam group for comp.* for November...
    It looks they moved mostly to comp.cad.cadence.
    [news@kvm ~]$ tdx-util -o -n chmurka.spam.comp.thai | grep 'Nov 2023' |
    awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -gr
    50656 [comp.cad.cadence]
    5517 [comp.ai.neural-nets]
    4694 [comp.text.tex]
    2608 [comp.theory]
    813 [comp.databases]
    794 [comp.protocols.time.ntp]
    575 [comp.programming.threads]
    286 [comp.lang.xharbour]
    121 [comp.os.linux.misc]
    99 [comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects]
    33 [comp.lang.cobol]
    25 [comp.lang.forth]
    25 [comp.dcom.sys.cisco]
    19 [comp.lang.python]
    15 [comp.lang.verilog]
    6 [comp.sys.acorn.misc]
    5 [comp.software.testing]
    5 [comp.security.ssh]
    5 [comp.os.msdos.djgpp]
    4 [comp.lang.fortran]
    3 [comp.os.vms]
    2 [comp.protocols.tcp-ip]
    2 [comp.protocols.kerberos]
    2 [comp.editors]
    1 [comp.text.pdf]
    1 [comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains]
    1 [comp.protocols.nfs]
    1 [comp.protocols.dicom]
    1 [comp.mobile.android]
    1 [comp.mail.sendmail]
    1 [comp.lang.c++]
    1 [comp.arch.embedded]

    Sad idiots!

    = 66322 . . . not sure if this is in reference/message id headers
    containing "googlegroups.com" . . . but it would be
    very interesting to see aggregate (sum) totals for all unmoderated
    usenet newsgroups since 1 January 2023, probably millions of these;

    *notably, the popular "alt.comp.freeware" newsgroup has apparently
    been blocked by googlegroups for three straight days and counting,
    for a sum total of 29976 (nearly thirty thousand) since 1 January

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  • From Serial Spammer@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Fri Nov 3 16:10:00 2023
    On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :



    They have taken a pragmatic approach. Filtering should be done by users
    on their own machines; It should not be imposed from the top!! what is
    spam to one person is not necessarily spam to another.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Serial Spammer on Fri Nov 3 20:11:20 2023
    On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 16:10:00 +0000, Serial Spammer <invalid@invalid.net> wrote: >On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    They have taken a pragmatic approach. Filtering should be done by users
    on their own machines; It should not be imposed from the top!! what is
    spam to one person is not necessarily spam to another.

    google should do the right thing and pull the plug . . . but they won't,
    or at least not yet until they've finished with their newsgroup-shifting

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  • From Adam W.@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 3 21:48:59 2023
    D <J@m> wrote:

    = 66322 . . . not sure if this is in reference/message id headers
    containing "googlegroups.com" . . .

    It's only Thai spam, not everything from Google Groups. I keep two buffers
    for them, one 1 GiB and one 3 GiB, it's around 8 days.

    Class SPAM for groups matching "chmurka.spam.*"
    Buffer SPAM1, size: 1.00 GBytes, position: 581 MBytes 3.57 cycles
    Newest: 2023-11-03 22:46:01, 0 days, 0:01:37 ago
    Oldest: 2023-10-27 1:25:04, 7 days, 22:22:34 ago
    Buffer SPAM2, size: 3.00 GBytes, position: 112 kBytes 1.00 cycles
    Newest: 2023-11-02 7:39:04, 1 days, 15:08:34 ago
    Oldest: 2023-10-26 18:43:02, 8 days, 5:04:36 ago

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to Serial Spammer on Sat Nov 4 12:59:44 2023
    On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 16:10:00 +0000
    Serial Spammer <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 13:04, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :
    They have taken a pragmatic approach.

    Perhaps they have taken a conscious approach or perhaps they're not paying attention.

    Filtering should be done by users on their own machines; It should not be imposed from the top!!

    It's best to have choice i.e. some servers doing filtering and some servers
    not and the users can access what they prefer.

    what is spam to one person is not necessarily spam to another.

    On the other hand , some posts would be considered spam by everyone ; I give some examples in <+hh3PVV=lTGp=902p@bongo-ra.co> .

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to Adam W. on Sat Nov 4 12:48:17 2023
    On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 12:08:59 -0000 (UTC) gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid (Adam W.) wrote:
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:

    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    Let's try my spam group for comp.* for November...

    It looks they moved mostly to comp.cad.cadence.

    [news@kvm ~]$ tdx-util -o -n chmurka.spam.comp.thai | grep 'Nov 2023' | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -gr
    50656 [comp.cad.cadence]

    Scary.

    5517 [comp.ai.neural-nets]
    4694 [comp.text.tex]
    2608 [comp.theory]
    813 [comp.databases]
    794 [comp.protocols.time.ntp]
    575 [comp.programming.threads]
    286 [comp.lang.xharbour]
    121 [comp.os.linux.misc]
    99 [comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects]
    33 [comp.lang.cobol]
    25 [comp.lang.forth]
    25 [comp.dcom.sys.cisco]
    19 [comp.lang.python]
    15 [comp.lang.verilog]
    6 [comp.sys.acorn.misc]
    5 [comp.software.testing]
    5 [comp.security.ssh]
    5 [comp.os.msdos.djgpp]
    4 [comp.lang.fortran]
    3 [comp.os.vms]
    2 [comp.protocols.tcp-ip]
    2 [comp.protocols.kerberos]
    2 [comp.editors]
    1 [comp.text.pdf]
    1 [comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains]
    1 [comp.protocols.nfs]
    1 [comp.protocols.dicom]
    1 [comp.mobile.android]
    1 [comp.mail.sendmail]
    1 [comp.lang.c++]
    1 [comp.arch.embedded]

    No comp.lang.lisp on your list. Accessing the group through news.cyber23.de I see more than 100 spam posts for November. For example

    <a2f6538f-c5de-4ea6-84e3-90dcb1c697fen@googlegroups.com> <def987bb-dc46-4013-90cc-5acc5059dd2fn@googlegroups.com> <239ec4f4-db6e-49b0-9eeb-20ea96555d24n@googlegroups.com> <9e94afea-d3da-4769-9275-39d63ebf52a1n@googlegroups.com> <aba4a884-d027-4350-9790-b1ceb11b7fecn@googlegroups.com> <827b9b4a-083c-488e-8a83-8d1cb9b21bdcn@googlegroups.com> <8669b073-56ff-4ce1-a14e-7c6fa6878d92n@googlegroups.com> <5037d60d-018a-4b02-b66d-92fcb68fa481n@googlegroups.com>

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Adam W. on Sat Nov 4 14:46:11 2023
    On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 21:48:59 -0000 (UTC), gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid (Adam W.) wrote:
    D <J@m> wrote:

    = 66322 . . . not sure if this is in reference/message id headers
    containing "googlegroups.com" . . .

    It's only Thai spam, not everything from Google Groups. I keep two buffers >for them, one 1 GiB and one 3 GiB, it's around 8 days.

    Class SPAM for groups matching "chmurka.spam.*"
    Buffer SPAM1, size: 1.00 GBytes, position: 581 MBytes 3.57 cycles
    Newest: 2023-11-03 22:46:01, 0 days, 0:01:37 ago
    Oldest: 2023-10-27 1:25:04, 7 days, 22:22:34 ago
    Buffer SPAM2, size: 3.00 GBytes, position: 112 kBytes 1.00 cycles
    Newest: 2023-11-02 7:39:04, 1 days, 15:08:34 ago
    Oldest: 2023-10-26 18:43:02, 8 days, 5:04:36 ago

    a contributor to alt.comp.freeware <ui55ib$3ap9c$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
    I just went to Google Groups in my browser and was able to read ACF's
    current posts without any problem. Looks to me that there isn't any
    lockdown.
    [end quote]

    seems google is in "regroup" mode, with occasional "lockdowns" just to
    be on the safe side . . .

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to spibou@gmail.com on Sat Nov 4 14:32:56 2023
    In article <+hh3PVV=lTGp=902p@bongo-ra.co>,
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 12:08:59 -0000 (UTC) >gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid (Adam W.) wrote:
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:

    Checking on news.cyber23.de which I don't think does any filtering :

    Let's try my spam group for comp.* for November...

    It looks they moved mostly to comp.cad.cadence.

    [news@kvm ~]$ tdx-util -o -n chmurka.spam.comp.thai | grep 'Nov 2023'
    | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -gr
    50656 [comp.cad.cadence]

    Scary.

    5517 [comp.ai.neural-nets]
    4694 [comp.text.tex]
    2608 [comp.theory]
    813 [comp.databases]
    794 [comp.protocols.time.ntp]
    575 [comp.programming.threads]
    286 [comp.lang.xharbour]
    121 [comp.os.linux.misc]
    99 [comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects]
    33 [comp.lang.cobol]
    25 [comp.lang.forth]
    25 [comp.dcom.sys.cisco]
    19 [comp.lang.python]
    15 [comp.lang.verilog]
    6 [comp.sys.acorn.misc]
    5 [comp.software.testing]
    5 [comp.security.ssh]
    5 [comp.os.msdos.djgpp]
    4 [comp.lang.fortran]
    3 [comp.os.vms]
    2 [comp.protocols.tcp-ip]
    2 [comp.protocols.kerberos]
    2 [comp.editors]
    1 [comp.text.pdf]
    1 [comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains]
    1 [comp.protocols.nfs]
    1 [comp.protocols.dicom]
    1 [comp.mobile.android]
    1 [comp.mail.sendmail]
    1 [comp.lang.c++]
    1 [comp.arch.embedded]

    No comp.lang.lisp on your list. Accessing the group through news.cyber23.de >I see more than 100 spam posts for November. For example

    <a2f6538f-c5de-4ea6-84e3-90dcb1c697fen@googlegroups.com> ><def987bb-dc46-4013-90cc-5acc5059dd2fn@googlegroups.com> ><239ec4f4-db6e-49b0-9eeb-20ea96555d24n@googlegroups.com> ><9e94afea-d3da-4769-9275-39d63ebf52a1n@googlegroups.com> ><aba4a884-d027-4350-9790-b1ceb11b7fecn@googlegroups.com> ><827b9b4a-083c-488e-8a83-8d1cb9b21bdcn@googlegroups.com> ><8669b073-56ff-4ce1-a14e-7c6fa6878d92n@googlegroups.com> ><5037d60d-018a-4b02-b66d-92fcb68fa481n@googlegroups.com>

    More reason to depeer Google GRoups now!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen If we are running from truth, we cannot be approaching God. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Adam W.@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Mon Nov 6 11:50:49 2023
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:

    50656 [comp.cad.cadence]

    Scary.

    It is indeed...

    No comp.lang.lisp on your list. Accessing the group through news.cyber23.de
    I see more than 100 spam posts for November. For example

    <a2f6538f-c5de-4ea6-84e3-90dcb1c697fen@googlegroups.com> <def987bb-dc46-4013-90cc-5acc5059dd2fn@googlegroups.com> <239ec4f4-db6e-49b0-9eeb-20ea96555d24n@googlegroups.com> <9e94afea-d3da-4769-9275-39d63ebf52a1n@googlegroups.com> <aba4a884-d027-4350-9790-b1ceb11b7fecn@googlegroups.com> <827b9b4a-083c-488e-8a83-8d1cb9b21bdcn@googlegroups.com> <8669b073-56ff-4ce1-a14e-7c6fa6878d92n@googlegroups.com> <5037d60d-018a-4b02-b66d-92fcb68fa481n@googlegroups.com>

    This is a different kind of spam than the one my filter catches. It might
    be good to add it as well (but to a different filter) though...

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Adam W. on Mon Nov 6 15:04:07 2023
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 11:50:49 -0000 (UTC), gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid (Adam W.) wrote:
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    50656 [comp.cad.cadence]

    Scary.

    It is indeed...

    one hundred thirty thousand (130054) googlespams inundating
    <comp.cad.cadence> since 6 Oct 2023 (within the past month)
    and counting . . . so what's new? such is normal for google
    because they know that no one in the universe has the power
    to stop them . . . thus power and corruption are synonymous

    No comp.lang.lisp on your list. Accessing the group through news.cyber23.de
    I see more than 100 spam posts for November. For example

    <a2f6538f-c5de-4ea6-84e3-90dcb1c697fen@googlegroups.com>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
    "Indonsian - Detected
    Link Mudah Akses Terpercaya :"
    (followed by 11 "https://..." links; repeats 22 times)
    Kekayaan alat musik tradisional Israel adalah cerminan..."
    ditto . . .
    <def987bb-dc46-4013-90cc-5acc5059dd2fn@googlegroups.com>
    <239ec4f4-db6e-49b0-9eeb-20ea96555d24n@googlegroups.com>
    <9e94afea-d3da-4769-9275-39d63ebf52a1n@googlegroups.com>
    <aba4a884-d027-4350-9790-b1ceb11b7fecn@googlegroups.com>
    <827b9b4a-083c-488e-8a83-8d1cb9b21bdcn@googlegroups.com>
    <8669b073-56ff-4ce1-a14e-7c6fa6878d92n@googlegroups.com>
    <5037d60d-018a-4b02-b66d-92fcb68fa481n@googlegroups.com>

    This is a different kind of spam than the one my filter catches. It might
    be good to add it as well (but to a different filter) though...

    google admins should do the right thing and pull the plug

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 13:38:34 2023
    <ui8tcr$4epd$1@dont-email.me> : "in addition, now Google Groups is requiring
    a CAPTCHA to post to any other group." .

    This is good news , I hope they keep this measure.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Eric M@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 14:37:46 2023
    Le 06/11/2023 à 14:38, Spiros Bousbouras a écrit :

    <ui8tcr$4epd$1@dont-email.me> : "in addition, now Google Groups is requiring a CAPTCHA to post to any other group." .

    This is good news , I hope they keep this measure.

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of people ask them to.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From D@21:1/5 to Eric M on Mon Nov 6 17:09:06 2023
    On Mon, 06 Nov 23 14:37:46 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 06/11/2023 a 14:38, Spiros Bousbouras a ecrit :
    <ui8tcr$4epd$1@dont-email.me> : "in addition, now Google Groups is requiring >> a CAPTCHA to post to any other group." .

    This is good news , I hope they keep this measure.

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of >people ask them to.

    when the universal googlespam flood stops permanently never to be
    seen nor heard from again, then and only then shall everyone know
    for a fact that this news is more than gossip or wishful thinking;
    but to be pollyannaish and google does summarily cease and desist
    from their reign of terror, then that could set the precedent for
    other violators to more strictly limit posting or else, read-only;
    of course the psyops troll farms can't be stopped, but then again . . .

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 09:40:05 2023
    On 11/4/23 08:46, D wrote:
    On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 21:48:59 -0000 (UTC), gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid (Adam W.) wrote:
    D <J@m> wrote:

    = 66322 . . . not sure if this is in reference/message id headers
    containing "googlegroups.com" . . .

    It's only Thai spam, not everything from Google Groups. I keep two buffers >> for them, one 1 GiB and one 3 GiB, it's around 8 days.

    Class SPAM for groups matching "chmurka.spam.*"
    Buffer SPAM1, size: 1.00 GBytes, position: 581 MBytes 3.57 cycles
    Newest: 2023-11-03 22:46:01, 0 days, 0:01:37 ago
    Oldest: 2023-10-27 1:25:04, 7 days, 22:22:34 ago
    Buffer SPAM2, size: 3.00 GBytes, position: 112 kBytes 1.00 cycles
    Newest: 2023-11-02 7:39:04, 1 days, 15:08:34 ago
    Oldest: 2023-10-26 18:43:02, 8 days, 5:04:36 ago

    a contributor to alt.comp.freeware <ui55ib$3ap9c$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
    I just went to Google Groups in my browser and was able to read ACF's
    current posts without any problem. Looks to me that there isn't any
    lockdown.
    [end quote]

    seems google is in "regroup" mode, with occasional "lockdowns" just to
    be on the safe side . . .


    They're probably going to continue to lock down groups at random.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 16:21:46 2023
    In article <dbb94f49eb30ce8b0e04ccd607ee138b@dizum.com>, D <J@M> wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 11:50:49 -0000 (UTC), >gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid (Adam W.) wrote:
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    50656 [comp.cad.cadence]

    Scary.

    It is indeed...

    one hundred thirty thousand (130054) googlespams inundating ><comp.cad.cadence> since 6 Oct 2023 (within the past month)
    and counting . . . so what's new? such is normal for google
    because they know that no one in the universe has the power
    to stop them . . . thus power and corruption are synonymous

    No comp.lang.lisp on your list. Accessing the group through >news.cyber23.de
    I see more than 100 spam posts for November. For example

    <a2f6538f-c5de-4ea6-84e3-90dcb1c697fen@googlegroups.com>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
    "Indonsian - Detected
    Link Mudah Akses Terpercaya :"
    (followed by 11 "https://..." links; repeats 22 times)
    Kekayaan alat musik tradisional Israel adalah cerminan..."
    ditto . . .
    <def987bb-dc46-4013-90cc-5acc5059dd2fn@googlegroups.com>
    <239ec4f4-db6e-49b0-9eeb-20ea96555d24n@googlegroups.com>
    <9e94afea-d3da-4769-9275-39d63ebf52a1n@googlegroups.com>
    <aba4a884-d027-4350-9790-b1ceb11b7fecn@googlegroups.com>
    <827b9b4a-083c-488e-8a83-8d1cb9b21bdcn@googlegroups.com>
    <8669b073-56ff-4ce1-a14e-7c6fa6878d92n@googlegroups.com>
    <5037d60d-018a-4b02-b66d-92fcb68fa481n@googlegroups.com>

    This is a different kind of spam than the one my filter catches. It might >>be good to add it as well (but to a different filter) though...

    google admins should do the right thing and pull the plug


    Depeer Google Groups now!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Suffering will continue until we stop believing lies. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to conanospamic@gmail.com on Mon Nov 6 16:22:10 2023
    In article <Wv33_1awwf_k-ZbUkYdot0APVUg@jntp>,
    Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 06/11/2023 à 14:38, Spiros Bousbouras a écrit :

    <ui8tcr$4epd$1@dont-email.me> : "in addition, now Google Groups is requiring >> a CAPTCHA to post to any other group." .

    This is good news , I hope they keep this measure.

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of >people ask them to.

    If anyone is listening!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Suffering will continue until we stop believing lies. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Mon Nov 6 16:22:44 2023
    In article <uib1co$gukb$2@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 11/4/23 08:46, D wrote:
    On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 21:48:59 -0000 (UTC), >gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid (Adam W.) wrote:
    D <J@m> wrote:

    = 66322 . . . not sure if this is in reference/message id headers
    containing "googlegroups.com" . . .

    It's only Thai spam, not everything from Google Groups. I keep two buffers >>> for them, one 1 GiB and one 3 GiB, it's around 8 days.

    Class SPAM for groups matching "chmurka.spam.*"
    Buffer SPAM1, size: 1.00 GBytes, position: 581 MBytes 3.57 cycles
    Newest: 2023-11-03 22:46:01, 0 days, 0:01:37 ago
    Oldest: 2023-10-27 1:25:04, 7 days, 22:22:34 ago
    Buffer SPAM2, size: 3.00 GBytes, position: 112 kBytes 1.00 cycles
    Newest: 2023-11-02 7:39:04, 1 days, 15:08:34 ago
    Oldest: 2023-10-26 18:43:02, 8 days, 5:04:36 ago

    a contributor to alt.comp.freeware <ui55ib$3ap9c$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
    I just went to Google Groups in my browser and was able to read ACF's
    current posts without any problem. Looks to me that there isn't any
    lockdown.
    [end quote]

    seems google is in "regroup" mode, with occasional "lockdowns" just to
    be on the safe side . . .


    They're probably going to continue to lock down groups at random.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom


    GG should be read-only on the USEnet side!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Suffering will continue until we stop believing lies. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 16:23:52 2023
    In article <36998a8b33db23ec53ea67da8f2ec2e7@dizum.com>, D <J@M> wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Nov 23 14:37:46 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 06/11/2023 a 14:38, Spiros Bousbouras a ecrit :
    <ui8tcr$4epd$1@dont-email.me> : "in addition, now Google Groups is requiring
    a CAPTCHA to post to any other group." .

    This is good news , I hope they keep this measure.

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of >>people ask them to.

    when the universal googlespam flood stops permanently never to be
    seen nor heard from again, then and only then shall everyone know
    for a fact that this news is more than gossip or wishful thinking;
    but to be pollyannaish and google does summarily cease and desist
    from their reign of terror, then that could set the precedent for
    other violators to more strictly limit posting or else, read-only;
    of course the psyops troll farms can't be stopped, but then again . . .


    Given this from my innreports

    Unwanted sites in Path header field [Top 20]:
    Site Count
    google-groups.googlegroups.com 51525
    news.neodome.net 1472
    news.mixmin.net 1180
    news.newsdemon.com 426
    TOTAL: 4 54603

    Source https://ns2.nk.ca/news-notice.2023.11.05-01.00.00.html
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Suffering will continue until we stop believing lies. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Nov 6 11:02:10 2023
    On 11/6/23 10:22, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <uib1co$gukb$2@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 11/4/23 08:46, D wrote:
    seems google is in "regroup" mode, with occasional "lockdowns" just to
    be on the safe side . . .


    They're probably going to continue to lock down groups at random.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom


    GG should be read-only on the USEnet side!

    I agree, but this halfhearted attempt is worse than just leaving it all unlocked.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to spibou@gmail.com on Mon Nov 6 16:21:24 2023
    In article <YXVdbZTgPvu83LftE@bongo-ra.co>,
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    <ui8tcr$4epd$1@dont-email.me> : "in addition, now Google Groups is requiring >a CAPTCHA to post to any other group." .

    This is good news , I hope they keep this measure.

    They should make every post a captcha!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
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  • From D@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Nov 6 18:35:35 2023
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 16:23:52 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
    In article <36998a8b33db23ec53ea67da8f2ec2e7@dizum.com>, D <J@M> wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Nov 23 14:37:46 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>Le 06/11/2023 a 14:38, Spiros Bousbouras a ecrit :
    <ui8tcr$4epd$1@dont-email.me> : "in addition, now Google Groups is requiring
    a CAPTCHA to post to any other group." .

    This is good news , I hope they keep this measure.

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of >>>people ask them to.

    when the universal googlespam flood stops permanently never to be
    seen nor heard from again, then and only then shall everyone know
    for a fact that this news is more than gossip or wishful thinking;
    but to be pollyannaish and google does summarily cease and desist
    from their reign of terror, then that could set the precedent for
    other violators to more strictly limit posting or else, read-only;
    of course the psyops troll farms can't be stopped, but then again . . .

    Given this from my innreports
    Unwanted sites in Path header field [Top 20]:
    Site Count
    google-groups.googlegroups.com 51525
    news.neodome.net 1472
    news.mixmin.net 1180
    news.newsdemon.com 426
    TOTAL: 4 54603

    Source https://ns2.nk.ca/news-notice.2023.11.05-01.00.00.html

    only four "unwanted sites"? four dozen would make better sense in
    whatever context (they) (https://www.whois.com/whois/nk.ca) might
    be interested in . . . at least the gold medal was awarded google

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  • From D@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Nov 6 18:20:28 2023
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 16:21:24 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
    In article <YXVdbZTgPvu83LftE@bongo-ra.co>,
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    <ui8tcr$4epd$1@dont-email.me> : "in addition, now Google Groups is requiring >>a CAPTCHA to post to any other group." .

    This is good news , I hope they keep this measure.

    They should make every post a captcha!

    +1 . . . but could that work without overloading the gigantic google
    server systems with untold myriads, maybe millions of daily requests?

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  • From Eric M@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 20:32:39 2023
    Le 06/11/2023 à 17:22, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) a écrit :

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of
    people ask them to.

    If anyone is listening!

    I'm not totally against your idea of depeering Google but I'm afraid they
    will always find a feed, so we need to live with them. And if we can collectively talk to them, maybe they will listen more than if it's a
    single user.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Eric M on Mon Nov 6 22:19:27 2023
    On Mon, 06 Nov 23 20:32:39 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 06/11/2023 a 17:22, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) a ecrit :

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of >>> people ask them to.

    If anyone is listening!

    I'm not totally against your idea of depeering Google but I'm afraid they >will always find a feed, so we need to live with them. And if we can >collectively talk to them, maybe they will listen more than if it's a
    single user.

    a group seance might work better if everyone is holding hands while
    the medium makes tries to make contact, which almost never actually
    occurs, but who knows . . . one out of a googol of tries might work?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Mon Nov 6 23:36:37 2023
    In article <uib66j$gukb$4@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 11/6/23 10:22, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <uib1co$gukb$2@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 11/4/23 08:46, D wrote:
    seems google is in "regroup" mode, with occasional "lockdowns" just to >>>> be on the safe side . . .


    They're probably going to continue to lock down groups at random.
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    GG should be read-only on the USEnet side!

    I agree, but this halfhearted attempt is worse than just leaving it all >unlocked.

    Basically Google users will be locked out and the archive is restored!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to conanospamic@gmail.com on Mon Nov 6 23:37:07 2023
    In article <ydY-nzg6L-eyuGDKDlmiI1yPwvM@jntp>,
    Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 06/11/2023 à 17:22, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) a écrit :

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of >>> people ask them to.

    If anyone is listening!

    I'm not totally against your idea of depeering Google but I'm afraid they >will always find a feed, so we need to live with them. And if we can >collectively talk to them, maybe they will listen more than if it's a
    single user.

    If no one feeds Google, GG is dead in the water Usenetwise!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 23:37:31 2023
    In article <bfecbdcb6e07d010feacad25adcb6232@dizum.com>, D <J@M> wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Nov 23 20:32:39 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 06/11/2023 a 17:22, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) a ecrit :

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of >>>> people ask them to.

    If anyone is listening!

    I'm not totally against your idea of depeering Google but I'm afraid they >>will always find a feed, so we need to live with them. And if we can >>collectively talk to them, maybe they will listen more than if it's a >>single user.

    a group seance might work better if everyone is holding hands while
    the medium makes tries to make contact, which almost never actually
    occurs, but who knows . . . one out of a googol of tries might work?


    YeaH! Yeah!!
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 7 03:16:18 2023
    On 11/6/23 15:19, D wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Nov 23 20:32:39 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 06/11/2023 a 17:22, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) a ecrit :

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of >>>> people ask them to.

    If anyone is listening!

    I'm not totally against your idea of depeering Google but I'm afraid they
    will always find a feed, so we need to live with them. And if we can
    collectively talk to them, maybe they will listen more than if it's a
    single user.

    a group seance might work better if everyone is holding hands while
    the medium makes tries to make contact, which almost never actually
    occurs, but who knows . . . one out of a googol of tries might work?


    HA, 1/googol chance. Good pun.
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  • From D@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Tue Nov 7 14:54:34 2023
    On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 03:16:18 -0600, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 11/6/23 15:19, D wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Nov 23 20:32:39 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 06/11/2023 a 17:22, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) a ecrit : >>>>> So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of >>>>> people ask them to.
    If anyone is listening!
    I'm not totally against your idea of depeering Google but I'm afraid they >>> will always find a feed, so we need to live with them. And if we can
    collectively talk to them, maybe they will listen more than if it's a
    single user.

    a group seance might work better if everyone is holding hands while
    the medium makes tries to make contact, which almost never actually
    occurs, but who knows . . . one out of a googol of tries might work?

    HA, 1/googol chance. Good pun.

    maybe, but then again . . . what are the real chances of mere mortals conversing with the gods? like the old wailing wall joke "oy vey it's
    like talking to a brick wall!" but the seance was en vogue in the 20s
    when the namesake "google" already had his character in the limelight

    "Who's the most important man this country ever knew?
    Who's the man our presidents tell all their troubles to?
    No, it isn't Mr. Bryan and it isn't Mr. Hughes;
    I'm mighty proud that I'm allowed a chance to introduce:

    Barney Google - with the goo, goo, googly eyes,
    Barney Google - bet his horse would win the prize;
    When the horses ran that day,
    Spark Plug ran the other way!
    Barney Google - with the goo-goo-googly eyes!

    Who's the greatest lover that this country ever knew?
    Who's the man that Valentino takes his hat off to?
    No, it isn't Douglas Fairbanks that the ladies rave about;
    When he arrives, who makes the wives chase all their husbands out?

    Barney Google - with the goo-goo-googly eyes,
    Barney Google - had a wife three times his size;
    She sued Barney for divorce,
    Now he's sleeping with his horse!
    Barney Google - with the goo-goo-googly eyes!

    --song by Billy Rose and Con Conrad
    (c)1923 Jerome H Remick & Co., New York, Detroit
    by permission of DeBeck, creator of 'Barney Google'
    King Features Syndicate, Inc. "Great Britain Rights Reserved"

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Tue Nov 7 15:53:33 2023
    In article <uicv92$rc4c$7@dont-email.me>,
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 11/6/23 15:19, D wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Nov 23 20:32:39 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 06/11/2023 a 17:22, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) a ecrit :

    So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of >>>>> people ask them to.

    If anyone is listening!

    I'm not totally against your idea of depeering Google but I'm afraid they >>> will always find a feed, so we need to live with them. And if we can
    collectively talk to them, maybe they will listen more than if it's a
    single user.

    a group seance might work better if everyone is holding hands while
    the medium makes tries to make contact, which almost never actually
    occurs, but who knows . . . one out of a googol of tries might work?


    HA, 1/googol chance. Good pun.
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    :-)
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 8 19:32:56 2023
    On 11/7/23 07:54, D wrote:
    On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 03:16:18 -0600, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 11/6/23 15:19, D wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Nov 23 20:32:39 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Le 06/11/2023 a 17:22, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) a ecrit : >>>>>> So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of
    people ask them to.
    If anyone is listening!
    I'm not totally against your idea of depeering Google but I'm afraid they >>>> will always find a feed, so we need to live with them. And if we can
    collectively talk to them, maybe they will listen more than if it's a
    single user.

    a group seance might work better if everyone is holding hands while
    the medium makes tries to make contact, which almost never actually
    occurs, but who knows . . . one out of a googol of tries might work?

    HA, 1/googol chance. Good pun.

    maybe, but then again . . . what are the real chances of mere mortals conversing with the gods? like the old wailing wall joke "oy vey it's
    like talking to a brick wall!" but the seance was en vogue in the 20s
    when the namesake "google" already had his character in the limelight

    True, there's no chance of talking with the higher ups. BUT, maybe with
    enough activism, you could get some kinda response..
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  • From D@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Thu Nov 9 03:33:49 2023
    On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 19:32:56 -0600, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 11/7/23 07:54, D wrote:
    On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 03:16:18 -0600, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote: >>> On 11/6/23 15:19, D wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Nov 23 20:32:39 +0000, Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Le 06/11/2023 a 17:22, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) a ecrit : >>>>>>> So they can do something to improve Google Groups, if a certain number of
    people ask them to.
    If anyone is listening!
    I'm not totally against your idea of depeering Google but I'm afraid they >>>>> will always find a feed, so we need to live with them. And if we can >>>>> collectively talk to them, maybe they will listen more than if it's a >>>>> single user.
    a group seance might work better if everyone is holding hands while
    the medium makes tries to make contact, which almost never actually
    occurs, but who knows . . . one out of a googol of tries might work?
    HA, 1/googol chance. Good pun.

    maybe, but then again . . . what are the real chances of mere mortals
    conversing with the gods? like the old wailing wall joke "oy vey it's
    like talking to a brick wall!" but the seance was en vogue in the 20s
    when the namesake "google" already had his character in the limelight

    True, there's no chance of talking with the higher ups.

    the abyss is impassable . . . those above have no contact with those below

    BUT, maybe with
    enough activism, you could get some kinda response..

    pacifists are powerless against activists . . . the worldly rule the world

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