• Spamtroller flooding in sci.crypt

    From Spam Abuse Report@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 3 17:32:28 2024
    As soon as new discussion began in the semi-dormant group, sci.crypt,
    the spamtroller began flooding. It appears from the Path header that
    xlned.com is facilitating this spam. It is past time to get rough with highwinds media and pals.

    Here are a few Message-IDs.

    <aucrriltf1toqa1taegf71ioc9k7r546ue@4ax.com>
    <qddrritthf49bfnoh1ehe3p0kq28j6mtbg@4ax.com>
    <np8sri1gsoqui745ikvod4p8cvujba1v1b@4ax.com>
    <mp8srihicdhnhgodr3450vah728vn0iu4t@4ax.com>
    <kp8sri9p9mcat483pivm0voorotv48ngug@4ax.com>
    <jp8sri1v4dbt8goldvk3lhl1g6o1q0dq75@4ax.com>
    <hp8sri9i4phf9p4jd5r1pd9pmsqtrlaqpn@4ax.com>
    <fp8sritfacsu5ubmi6ke94c9dmkst6n1na@4ax.com>
    <ep8srihk5sue17ofl4aadfgqn18croj74v@4ax.com>
    <cp8sri1fg4nf7733v093ld0v190qlh0vlj@4ax.com>

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  • From llp@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 4 02:00:11 2024
    Spam Abuse Report avait prétendu :
    As soon as new discussion began in the semi-dormant group, sci.crypt,
    the spamtroller began flooding. It appears from the Path header that xlned.com is facilitating this spam. It is past time to get rough with highwinds media and pals.

    Here are a few Message-IDs.

    <aucrriltf1toqa1taegf71ioc9k7r546ue@4ax.com>
    <qddrritthf49bfnoh1ehe3p0kq28j6mtbg@4ax.com>
    <np8sri1gsoqui745ikvod4p8cvujba1v1b@4ax.com>
    <mp8srihicdhnhgodr3450vah728vn0iu4t@4ax.com>
    <kp8sri9p9mcat483pivm0voorotv48ngug@4ax.com>
    <jp8sri1v4dbt8goldvk3lhl1g6o1q0dq75@4ax.com>
    <hp8sri9i4phf9p4jd5r1pd9pmsqtrlaqpn@4ax.com>
    <fp8sritfacsu5ubmi6ke94c9dmkst6n1na@4ax.com>
    <ep8srihk5sue17ofl4aadfgqn18croj74v@4ax.com>
    <cp8sri1fg4nf7733v093ld0v190qlh0vlj@4ax.com>

    I don't see these messages anywhere but on the paganini server.
    Perhaps you should use another server...

    A list of free server: <https://sybershock.com/#usenet>

    --
    Admin of news.usenet.ovh

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@21:1/5 to Spam Abuse Report on Sun Feb 4 11:58:39 2024
    Spam Abuse Report <spam@abuse.report> wrote:
    As soon as new discussion began in the semi-dormant group, sci.crypt,
    the spamtroller began flooding. It appears from the Path header that xlned.com is facilitating this spam. It is past time to get rough with highwinds media and pals.

    Here are a few Message-IDs.

    <aucrriltf1toqa1taegf71ioc9k7r546ue@4ax.com>

    That seems similar to spam in comp.compression and a bunch of other
    computer groups. When that group was flooded with over 90 posts in
    a day advertising "OBS Truck Spares", coming from the same
    newsserver and User-Agent as these sci.crypt spams, I reported it
    to the abuse address complete with a list of example message-ids.

    In some cruel irony, that email was rejected by their mail server
    as spam, but I went through their www.usenetserver.com website,
    where an anti-spam policy is described, and opened a support ticket
    in late December. They responded as follows:

    "Hello,

    Thank you for contacting support! The content on Usenet is wholly user-
    contributed. Unfortunately, due to the open nature of how content is shared,
    we do not have any control (quality or otherwise) over what is posted. Content
    is only removed from our servers in accordance with our abuse policies (for
    example, upon receipt of a notice from the copyright holder). Those policies
    are available for review on our website.

    Rest assured that your report will be taken into consideration, for more
    information please wait for the response of our abuse department.

    We appreciate your business.

    Regards,

    UsenetServer Support"

    Clearly whoever wrote that hadn't really understood the issue,
    though I made it pretty clear, opening my message with "Your
    Usenet news server is being abused to post spam messages to the comp.compression newsgroup, along with many others". Unfortunately
    I never heard anything from their alleged "abuse department". But
    the spam did drop back to just the occasional single drug ad, so
    _maybe_ they did something to stop the truck spares spam flood,
    even though it looks like they're all from the same source (and I
    included message-ids for the drugs spam too).

    Opening a support ticket there at least got some response, so if
    others do the same then perhaps UsenetServer will eventually follow
    through and make a real effort to stop it.

    --
    __ __
    #_ < |\| |< _# | Note: I won't see posts made from Google Groups |

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Computer Nerd Kev on Sun Feb 4 05:57:06 2024
    On 4 Feb 2024 11:58:39 +1000, not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:
    Spam Abuse Report <spam@abuse.report> wrote:
    As soon as new discussion began in the semi-dormant group, sci.crypt,
    the spamtroller began flooding. It appears from the Path header that
    xlned.com is facilitating this spam. It is past time to get rough with
    highwinds media and pals.
    Here are a few Message-IDs.
    <aucrriltf1toqa1taegf71ioc9k7r546ue@4ax.com>

    That seems similar to spam in comp.compression and a bunch of other
    computer groups. When that group was flooded with over 90 posts in
    a day advertising "OBS Truck Spares", coming from the same
    newsserver and User-Agent as these sci.crypt spams, I reported it
    to the abuse address complete with a list of example message-ids.
    In some cruel irony, that email was rejected by their mail server
    as spam, but I went through their www.usenetserver.com website,
    where an anti-spam policy is described, and opened a support ticket
    in late December. They responded as follows:

    "Hello,
    Thank you for contacting support! The content on Usenet is wholly user- contributed. Unfortunately, due to the open nature of how content is shared, we do not have any control (quality or otherwise) over what is posted. Content
    is only removed from our servers in accordance with our abuse policies (for example, upon receipt of a notice from the copyright holder). Those policies are available for review on our website.
    Rest assured that your report will be taken into consideration, for more information please wait for the response of our abuse department.
    We appreciate your business.
    Regards,
    UsenetServer Support"

    Clearly whoever wrote that hadn't really understood the issue,
    though I made it pretty clear, opening my message with "Your
    Usenet news server is being abused to post spam messages to the >comp.compression newsgroup, along with many others". Unfortunately
    I never heard anything from their alleged "abuse department". But
    the spam did drop back to just the occasional single drug ad, so
    _maybe_ they did something to stop the truck spares spam flood,
    even though it looks like they're all from the same source (and I
    included message-ids for the drugs spam too).
    Opening a support ticket there at least got some response, so if
    others do the same then perhaps UsenetServer will eventually follow
    through and make a real effort to stop it.

    seems their zero-tolerance spam policies might be unenforceable . . .

    (using Tor Browser 13.0.9)
    https://www.usenetserver.com/terms-of-service
    Spam. UsenetServer enforces a zero-tolerance spam policy regarding our
    users posts to usenet through our network. It is the sole discretion
    of UsenetServer to determine if a user's posts are considered spam. If >UsenetServer has determined that a user has posted 1 or more articles
    of spam, that user will be charged a $500 per hour clean-up fee and
    the user's account will be canceled immediately with no refunds and
    all reasonable efforts will be made by UsenetServer to prevent the
    user from using our network anytime thereafter.
    [end quote]

    https://easynews.com/agreement/
    SPAM. Easynews enforces a zero-tolerance spam policy regarding our
    users posts to usenet through our network. It is the sole discretion
    of Easynews to determine if a user's posts are considered spam. If
    Easynews has determined that a user has posted 1 or more articles
    of spam, that user will be charged a $500 per hour clean-up fee and
    the user's account will be canceled immediately and
    all reasonable efforts will be made by Easynews to prevent the
    user from using our network anytime thereafter.
    [end quote]

    usenet has long-since been continuously inundated by weaponized troll farm
    spam from both google and non-google servers, so once google cuts the cord
    will many dozens of other servers pick up the slack without missing a beat?

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 4 17:36:18 2024
    Sn!pe wrote:

    D <J@M> wrote:

    [...]

    usenet has long-since been continuously inundated by weaponized troll farm >> spam from both google and non-google servers, so once google cuts the cord >> will many dozens of other servers pick up the slack without missing a
    beat?


    I hope not but I suspect that they will. Will that cause further schism between civilised Usenet and irresponsible barbarian servers beyond
    the pale?

    I think we'll know quite soon; meanwhile, fight the good fight.

    I think the web interfaces will be hit first. They're easier. I already see this on my sites, though it's currently under control. Limiting post rates seems to make a huge difference. Google seems to allow someone to post as fast and as much as bandwidth
    allows. A web interface should regulate this (my sites do).

    I'm sure some will migrate to nntp servers to spam (some already do), but it may not be to the extent that Google allows. Inn also has some features to help slow things down.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From bernie@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 5 12:45:56 2024
    On 04 Feb 2024, retro.guy@rocksolidbbs.com (Retro Guy) posted some news:aaca3fbb8e6708ba68b8760b5fbfabf2@www.novabbs.org:

    Sn!pe wrote:

    D <J@M> wrote:

    [...]

    usenet has long-since been continuously inundated by weaponized
    troll farm spam from both google and non-google servers, so once
    google cuts the cord will many dozens of other servers pick up the
    slack without missing a beat?


    I hope not but I suspect that they will. Will that cause further
    schism between civilised Usenet and irresponsible barbarian servers
    beyond the pale?

    I think we'll know quite soon; meanwhile, fight the good fight.

    I think the web interfaces will be hit first. They're easier. I
    already see this on my sites, though it's currently under control.
    Limiting post rates seems to make a huge difference. Google seems to
    allow someone to post as fast and as much as bandwidth allows. A web interface should regulate this (my sites do).

    I'm sure some will migrate to nntp servers to spam (some already do),
    but it may not be to the extent that Google allows. Inn also has some features to help slow things down.

    Ya'll gist keep reportin' them critters. Ah'll git mah hipcrime generator oiled up and send the orijintaters some luv.

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  • From Hip Crime Boss@21:1/5 to bernie on Wed Feb 7 07:07:59 2024
    On 2/5/24 05:45, bernie wrote:
    Ya'll gist keep reportin' them critters. Ah'll git mah hipcrime generator oiled up and send the orijintaters some luv.

    Ser, gewd, sahr, Ah thanks ye. Ah blesses ye. Ah salootz ye most
    salubriously, yassah.

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