• Re: Who is peering all these spams ostensibly from Google Groups?

    From david@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 24 21:02:01 2024
    XPost: news.admin.peering, news.software.nntp

    I guess we know the answer to the question for sure now, don't we.
    It *was* Google from whence all that spam was emanating after all!

    Before: https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw
    After: https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/489FsG6L/google-groups-no-longer-supports-new-usenet-posts-or-subscriptions-historical-content-remains

    You'd think Google, of all outfits, would have figured out that
    an account that sends a billion messages to any given newsgroup
    is spamming that newsgroup. I guess they didn't care.

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  • From Nomen Nescio@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 25 08:10:50 2024
    XPost: news.admin.peering, news.software.nntp

    On 24 Feb 2024, david <this@is.invalid> posted some news:uree3o$3qugo$1@i2pn2.org:

    I guess we know the answer to the question for sure now, don't we.
    It *was* Google from whence all that spam was emanating after all!

    Before: https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw
    After: https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/489FsG6L/google-groups-no-longer -supports-new-usenet-posts-or-subscriptions-historical-content-remains

    You'd think Google, of all outfits, would have figured out that
    an account that sends a billion messages to any given newsgroup
    is spamming that newsgroup. I guess they didn't care.

    "I gue$$ they didn't care."

    Capitalist cost cutting. There is no profit in providing a public
    service as far as google is concerned. They did screw up. There were
    many local governments using groups because it was convenient, private,
    and useful information for insider trading was available for the taking.

    google cut off their no$e to $pite their own face.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to david on Sun Feb 25 19:00:02 2024
    XPost: news.admin.peering, news.software.nntp

    On 2024-02-25, david <this@is.invalid> wrote:
    I guess we know the answer to the question for sure now, don't we.
    It *was* Google from whence all that spam was emanating after all!

    Before: https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw
    After: https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/489FsG6L/google-groups-no-longer-supports-new-usenet-posts-or-subscriptions-historical-content-remains

    You'd think Google, of all outfits, would have figured out that
    an account that sends a billion messages to any given newsgroup
    is spamming that newsgroup. I guess they didn't care.

    Well, GG was also dead to them so.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From a@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 25 22:16:29 2024
    XPost: news.admin.peering, news.software.nntp

    On 25 Feb 2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> posted some news:urg2nh$20q0u$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-02-25, david <this@is.invalid> wrote:
    I guess we know the answer to the question for sure now, don't we.
    It *was* Google from whence all that spam was emanating after all!

    Before: https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw
    After:
    https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/489FsG6L/google-groups-no-longe
    r-supports-new-usenet-posts-or-subscriptions-historical-content-remain
    s

    You'd think Google, of all outfits, would have figured out that
    an account that sends a billion messages to any given newsgroup
    is spamming that newsgroup. I guess they didn't care.

    Well, GG was also dead to them so.

    Trump should be announcing that Truth Social and Elon Musk have bought
    Usenet from google any day now.

    That would be funny as Hell if it ever happened. Feeds from Truth
    Social and X, lots of new objective contributors.

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 25 22:23:42 2024
    XPost: news.admin.peering, news.software.nntp

    a wrote:

    On 25 Feb 2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> posted some news:urg2nh$20q0u$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-02-25, david <this@is.invalid> wrote:
    I guess we know the answer to the question for sure now, don't we.
    It *was* Google from whence all that spam was emanating after all!

    Before: https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw
    After:
    https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/489FsG6L/google-groups-no-longe
    r-supports-new-usenet-posts-or-subscriptions-historical-content-remain
    s

    You'd think Google, of all outfits, would have figured out that
    an account that sends a billion messages to any given newsgroup
    is spamming that newsgroup. I guess they didn't care.

    Well, GG was also dead to them so.

    Trump should be announcing that Truth Social and Elon Musk have bought
    Usenet from google any day now.

    It would be hard for Google to sell Usenet since they've never owned it.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to retroguy@novabbs.com on Sun Feb 25 22:48:33 2024
    XPost: news.admin.peering, news.software.nntp

    Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:
    Trump should be announcing that Truth Social and Elon Musk have bought
    Usenet from google any day now.

    It would be hard for Google to sell Usenet since they've never owned it.

    That never stopped any of those folks. Or the people who have repeatedly
    sold the Brooklyn Bridge. There's lots of money in the business of selling stuff you don't own.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From immibis@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Mon Feb 26 16:26:44 2024
    XPost: news.admin.peering, news.software.nntp

    On 25/02/24 23:48, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:
    Trump should be announcing that Truth Social and Elon Musk have bought
    Usenet from google any day now.

    It would be hard for Google to sell Usenet since they've never owned it.

    That never stopped any of those folks. Or the people who have repeatedly sold the Brooklyn Bridge. There's lots of money in the business of selling stuff you don't own.
    --scott

    Some might even say it's the only way to get rich.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to immibis on Mon Feb 26 15:55:11 2024
    XPost: news.admin.peering, news.software.nntp

    ["Followup-To:" header set to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.]
    On 2024-02-26, immibis <news@immibis.com> wrote:
    On 25/02/24 23:48, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:
    Trump should be announcing that Truth Social and Elon Musk have bought >>>> Usenet from google any day now.

    It would be hard for Google to sell Usenet since they've never owned it.

    That never stopped any of those folks. Or the people who have repeatedly
    sold the Brooklyn Bridge. There's lots of money in the business of selling >> stuff you don't own.
    --scott

    Some might even say it's the only way to get rich.

    Or you could get like, really lucky then exploit workers.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to R Daneel Olivaw on Mon Feb 26 20:30:08 2024
    On 2024-02-26, R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> wrote:
    david wrote:
    I guess we know the answer to the question for sure now, don't we.
    It *was* Google from whence all that spam was emanating after all!

    Before: https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw
    After:
    https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/489FsG6L/google-groups-no-longer-supports-new-usenet-posts-or-subscriptions-historical-content-remains


    You'd think Google, of all outfits, would have figured out that
    an account that sends a billion messages to any given newsgroup
    is spamming that newsgroup. I guess they didn't care.

    Your premise is flawed, they used multiple accounts. The spammed
    newsgroup I monitor had them changing accounts every three or four
    messages (that's an approximation).

    Maybe they also used a VPN to get around ip bans?
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@21:1/5 to david on Mon Feb 26 21:23:03 2024
    david wrote:
    I guess we know the answer to the question for sure now, don't we.
    It *was* Google from whence all that spam was emanating after all!

    Before: https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw
    After: https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/489FsG6L/google-groups-no-longer-supports-new-usenet-posts-or-subscriptions-historical-content-remains


    You'd think Google, of all outfits, would have figured out that
    an account that sends a billion messages to any given newsgroup
    is spamming that newsgroup. I guess they didn't care.

    Your premise is flawed, they used multiple accounts. The spammed
    newsgroup I monitor had them changing accounts every three or four
    messages (that's an approximation).

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to R Daneel Olivaw on Mon Feb 26 14:50:07 2024
    On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:23:03 +0100, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

    david wrote:
    I guess we know the answer to the question for sure now, don't we.
    It *was* Google from whence all that spam was emanating after all!

    Before: https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw
    After:
    https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/489FsG6L/google-groups-no-longer-supports-new-usenet-posts-or-subscriptions-historical-content-remains


    You'd think Google, of all outfits, would have figured out that
    an account that sends a billion messages to any given newsgroup
    is spamming that newsgroup. I guess they didn't care.

    Your premise is flawed, they used multiple accounts. The spammed
    newsgroup I monitor had them changing accounts every three or four
    messages (that's an approximation).

    One thing I did while generating nocems was add accounts (from
    Injection-Info) to a spam rule if they exceeded trigger spam score by
    (score X 3.5). So not all the spam, just the ones with a quite high spam
    score value.

    This ended up with 12,133 google-groups accounts in that rule over time.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Retro Guy on Mon Feb 26 23:45:03 2024
    On 2024-02-26, Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:23:03 +0100, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

    david wrote:
    I guess we know the answer to the question for sure now, don't we.
    It *was* Google from whence all that spam was emanating after all!

    Before: https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw
    After:
    https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com/489FsG6L/google-groups-no-longer-supports-new-usenet-posts-or-subscriptions-historical-content-remains


    You'd think Google, of all outfits, would have figured out that
    an account that sends a billion messages to any given newsgroup
    is spamming that newsgroup. I guess they didn't care.

    Your premise is flawed, they used multiple accounts. The spammed
    newsgroup I monitor had them changing accounts every three or four
    messages (that's an approximation).

    One thing I did while generating nocems was add accounts (from Injection-Info) to a spam rule if they exceeded trigger spam score by
    (score X 3.5). So not all the spam, just the ones with a quite high spam score value.

    This ended up with 12,133 google-groups accounts in that rule over time.


    That's quite a bit.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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