• strange message on alt.test

    From llp@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 5 23:26:46 2024
    Hi,
    I've noticed that on the alt.test group, a user posts a message every
    5 minutes from months.
    Do you have any idea what this is ?

    For example:

    From: Test User <test-user@nospam.example>
    Newsgroups: alt.test
    Message-Id: <707bded39480bb81.7963489a696c9318@52989dccacae3eb5.78e0286b383466a7>
    Subject:
    6705db03d618d0eb-37a24843797800f3-325ab381f16573e3-105b0d1331234dcf Organization: XSNews
    Path: (...)!abp001.abavia.com!news.xsnews.nl!not-for-mail
    Lines: 2
    Injection-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2024 22:24:41 +0100
    Injection-Info: news.xsnews.nl; mail-complaints-to="abuse@xsnews.nl" X-Received-Bytes: 614


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    44f5caa6dc2490ac

    --
    Admin of news.usenet.ovh

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to llp on Tue Mar 5 22:35:22 2024
    llp <contact@usenet.ovh> wrote at 22:26 this Tuesday (GMT):
    Hi,
    I've noticed that on the alt.test group, a user posts a message every
    5 minutes from months.
    Do you have any idea what this is ?

    For example:

    From: Test User <test-user@nospam.example>
    Newsgroups: alt.test
    Message-Id:
    <707bded39480bb81.7963489a696c9318@52989dccacae3eb5.78e0286b383466a7>
    Subject:
    6705db03d618d0eb-37a24843797800f3-325ab381f16573e3-105b0d1331234dcf Organization: XSNews
    Path: (...)!abp001.abavia.com!news.xsnews.nl!not-for-mail
    Lines: 2
    Injection-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2024 22:24:41 +0100
    Injection-Info: news.xsnews.nl; mail-complaints-to="abuse@xsnews.nl" X-Received-Bytes: 614


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    44f5caa6dc2490ac

    Maybe it's some automated system?
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    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Ivo Gandolfo@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 6 08:25:11 2024
    -------- Original Message --------
    From: llp <contact@usenet.ovh>
    Date: mar, mar 5 2024 10:26:46PM GMT+00:00
    Subject: strange message on alt.test


    Hi,
    I've noticed that on the alt.test group, a user posts a message every
    5 minutes from months.
    Do you have any idea what this is ?

    For example:



    It's a bot, testing reaching the system and "ping". It's used for the
    Tor (or similar) network for testing reachability.
    Have used my server too.


    --
    Ivo Gandolfo

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  • From Ray Banana@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 6 13:07:09 2024
    Thus spake Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com>

    Path: (...)!abp001.abavia.com!news.xsnews.nl!not-for-mail
    Maybe we should ban xsnews.nl :)

    Cry havoc and let slip the bots of war.

    --
    Пу́тін — хуйло́
    https://www.eternal-september.org

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  • From llp@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 6 19:40:35 2024
    Il se trouve que Ivo Gandolfo a formul :
    -------- Original Message --------
    From: llp <contact@usenet.ovh>
    Date: mar, mar 5 2024 10:26:46PM GMT+00:00
    Subject: strange message on alt.test


    Hi,
    I've noticed that on the alt.test group, a user posts a message every
    5 minutes from months.
    Do you have any idea what this is ?

    For example:



    It's a bot, testing reaching the system and "ping". It's used for the Tor (or similar) network for testing reachability.
    Have used my server too.

    Okay, that makes more sense.
    Sincerely

    --
    Admin of news.usenet.ovh

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to Ivo Gandolfo on Wed Mar 6 14:40:56 2024
    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 08:25:11 +0100
    Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> wrote:

    -------- Original Message --------
    From: llp <contact@usenet.ovh>
    Date: mar, mar 5 2024 10:26:46PM GMT+00:00
    Subject: strange message on alt.test


    Hi,
    I've noticed that on the alt.test group, a user posts a message
    every 5 minutes from months.
    Do you have any idea what this is ?

    For example:



    It's a bot, testing reaching the system and "ping". It's used for the
    Tor (or similar) network for testing reachability.
    Have used my server too.

    Personally, I'm not a big fan of running a usenet server that's
    accessable via tor. While usenet can be fairly anonymous, there is
    still some sort of accountability for those users who abuse it. That
    said, I suppose it's like any other VPN or whatever.


    --
    End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
    telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Wed Mar 6 23:12:57 2024
    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 14:40:56 -0600, Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 08:25:11 +0100
    Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> wrote:
    -------- Original Message --------
    From: llp <contact@usenet.ovh>
    Date: mar, mar 5 2024 10:26:46PM GMT+00:00
    Subject: strange message on alt.test

    Hi,
    I've noticed that on the alt.test group, a user posts a message
    every 5 minutes from months.
    Do you have any idea what this is ?
    For example:

    It's a bot, testing reaching the system and "ping". It's used for the
    Tor (or similar) network for testing reachability.
    Have used my server too.

    Personally, I'm not a big fan of running a usenet server that's
    accessable via tor. While usenet can be fairly anonymous, there is
    still some sort of accountability for those users who abuse it. That
    said, I suppose it's like any other VPN or whatever.

    google didn't need tor to abuse usenet with impunity, temporarily;
    sites and services that reject tor users tend to become isolated,
    like moderated newsgroups, moderated social media, the "in-crowd"

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Wed Mar 6 23:07:23 2024
    Nigel Reed wrote:

    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 08:25:11 +0100
    Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> wrote:

    -------- Original Message --------
    From: llp <contact@usenet.ovh>
    Date: mar, mar 5 2024 10:26:46PM GMT+00:00
    Subject: strange message on alt.test


    Hi,
    I've noticed that on the alt.test group, a user posts a message
    every 5 minutes from months.
    Do you have any idea what this is ?

    For example:



    It's a bot, testing reaching the system and "ping". It's used for the
    Tor (or similar) network for testing reachability.
    Have used my server too.

    Personally, I'm not a big fan of running a usenet server that's
    accessable via tor. While usenet can be fairly anonymous, there is
    still some sort of accountability for those users who abuse it. That
    said, I suppose it's like any other VPN or whatever.

    I've been running a nntp server accessible via tor and i2p (including some peering) for a few years now, and have not had an issue. I do require a working email address to create an account to post (except for rocksolid.* groups where a user can post
    using the 'Anonymous' account)

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Thu Mar 7 08:21:18 2024
    Nigel Reed wrote:

    Personally, I'm not a big fan of running a usenet server that's
    accessable via tor. While usenet can be fairly anonymous, there is still
    some sort of accountability for those users who abuse it. That said, I suppose it's like any other VPN or whatever.

    The same properties that make tor useful to people who need it also make
    it useful to people who exploit it. Nothing can be done about this, but
    it is worth the tradeöff.



    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/ blu.mɛin.dʰak/
    │he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
    which word is supposed to be cat

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  • From wolfgang rothe@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 08:40:19 2024
    On 06 Mar 2024, D <J@M> posted some news:6ee1eb7e8637398e589013eb22ea5f1d@dizum.com:

    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 14:40:56 -0600, Nigel Reed
    <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 08:25:11 +0100
    Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> wrote:
    -------- Original Message --------
    From: llp <contact@usenet.ovh>
    Date: mar, mar 5 2024 10:26:46PM GMT+00:00
    Subject: strange message on alt.test

    Hi,
    I've noticed that on the alt.test group, a user posts a message
    every 5 minutes from months.
    Do you have any idea what this is ?
    For example:

    It's a bot, testing reaching the system and "ping". It's used for
    the Tor (or similar) network for testing reachability.
    Have used my server too.

    Personally, I'm not a big fan of running a usenet server that's
    accessable via tor. While usenet can be fairly anonymous, there is
    still some sort of accountability for those users who abuse it. That
    said, I suppose it's like any other VPN or whatever.

    google didn't need tor to abuse usenet with impunity, temporarily;
    sites and services that reject tor users tend to become isolated,
    like moderated newsgroups, moderated social media, the "in-crowd"

    google couldn't find a way to make groups / usenet pay to support
    themselves, so the cost cutting knife came out. If they were really interested, they could have stopped the spamming easily enough.

    Encountering Tor filtering will slow a skilled networker down for
    a bit to work out what is needed. An adjustment or two and Tor access continues unabated. Most users in this category are not abusers, but
    there is the occasional exception.

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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@21:1/5 to wolfgang rothe on Tue Mar 12 08:45:00 2024
    wolfgang rothe wrote:
    On 06 Mar 2024, D <J@M> posted some news:6ee1eb7e8637398e589013eb22ea5f1d@dizum.com:

    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 14:40:56 -0600, Nigel Reed
    <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 08:25:11 +0100
    Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> wrote:
    -------- Original Message --------
    From: llp <contact@usenet.ovh>
    Date: mar, mar 5 2024 10:26:46PM GMT+00:00
    Subject: strange message on alt.test

    Hi,
    I've noticed that on the alt.test group, a user posts a message
    every 5 minutes from months.
    Do you have any idea what this is ?
    For example:

    It's a bot, testing reaching the system and "ping". It's used for
    the Tor (or similar) network for testing reachability.
    Have used my server too.

    Personally, I'm not a big fan of running a usenet server that's
    accessable via tor. While usenet can be fairly anonymous, there is
    still some sort of accountability for those users who abuse it. That
    said, I suppose it's like any other VPN or whatever.

    google didn't need tor to abuse usenet with impunity, temporarily;
    sites and services that reject tor users tend to become isolated,
    like moderated newsgroups, moderated social media, the "in-crowd"

    google couldn't find a way to make groups / usenet pay to support
    themselves, so the cost cutting knife came out. If they were really interested, they could have stopped the spamming easily enough.

    Encountering Tor filtering will slow a skilled networker down for
    a bit to work out what is needed. An adjustment or two and Tor access continues unabated. Most users in this category are not abusers, but
    there is the occasional exception.


    I understand that some clients (not the one I use) can set an expiry
    date on a posting, this would seem to be case where that should be
    mandatory - and anything more than a few days would also be a form of abuse.

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  • From Schlomo Goldberg@21:1/5 to Eric M on Thu Oct 31 10:12:15 2024
    Eric M <conanospamic@gmail.com> writes:

    Le 05/03/2024 à 23:26, llp a écrit :

    I've noticed that on the alt.test group, a user posts a message every
    5 minutes from months.
    Do you have any idea what this is ?

    [...]

    Path: (...)!abp001.abavia.com!news.xsnews.nl!not-for-mail

    Maybe we should ban xsnews.nl :)

    They definitely will, if you call XSNews a Nazi company.

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