• Google groups spam

    From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 5 19:46:12 2022
    Hello,

    is there any way to report spamming users to Google so they block them
    or is Google just a nasty company that supports sending spam?
    Is there a relevant amount of legit posts from Google Groups or is it
    just the best idea to put all post from Google in the killfile?

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    Marco

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to mo01@posteo.de on Wed Oct 5 22:04:07 2022
    In article <thkft4$2tkbt$15@dont-email.me>,
    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Hello,

    is there any way to report spamming users to Google so they block them
    or is Google just a nasty company that supports sending spam?
    Is there a relevant amount of legit posts from Google Groups or is it
    just the best idea to put all post from Google in the killfile?


    Depeer Google groups overall!

    Nothing but twits and trolls in Google groups.

    I have reported spammers to google, no avail.

    Once you log into your google account try

    https://groups.google.com/search/conversations?q=Depeer%20Google%20Groups

    --
    Marco



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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/10/2022 18:46, Marco Moock wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:thkft4$2tkbt$15@dont-email.me">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hello,

    is there any way to report spamming users to Google so they block them
    or is Google just a nasty company that supports sending spam?
    Is there a relevant amount of legit posts from Google Groups or is it
    just the best idea to put all post from Google in the killfile?

    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    Google Group users have specific email address which can be filtered
    easily in thunderbird or some other crap-ware email/news clients.
    there is no need to waste time reporting anybody.<br>
    <br>
    In any case if you are using Mussolini server or neo-nazi server
    that actively supports Black-September terrorist organization then
    you have nothing to worry. They can block anybody who don't support
    their agenda. they are Putin supporters. Italy have Giorgia Meloni
    in charge so Mussolini is now back in power. Germany will soon have
    Hitler's cousin in charge so your problem will be solved. We are
    still here fighting them so don't worry. If they want the WW3 then
    they will get it.<br>
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    <br>
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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Thu Oct 6 18:37:27 2022
    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Hello,

    is there any way to report spamming users to Google so they block them
    or is Google just a nasty company that supports sending spam?
    Is there a relevant amount of legit posts from Google Groups or is it
    just the best idea to put all post from Google in the killfile?

    Your headers don't show which newsreader you're using. If it's a
    somewhat decent one, I suggest to downscore Google Groups postings
    or/and Gmail users and uperscore The Good Guys(TM) when you see them.

    That's what I do and the result is not too bad.

    Likewise with rogue newsservers, anonymous services, etc..

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 6 20:22:17 2022
    Am 05.10.2022 um 22:04:07 Uhr schrieb The Doctor:

    Nothing but twits and trolls in Google groups.

    Not all posts are rubbish that come from there, but many.

    I have reported spammers to google, no avail.

    What is "avail."?

    Once you log into your google account try

    https://groups.google.com/search/conversations?q=Depeer%20Google%20Groups

    I get no result, but I am not logged in, I don't have a Google account
    anymore.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to mo01@posteo.de on Thu Oct 6 19:32:25 2022
    In article <thn6cp$3e9qv$10@dont-email.me>,
    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Am 05.10.2022 um 22:04:07 Uhr schrieb The Doctor:

    Nothing but twits and trolls in Google groups.

    Not all posts are rubbish that come from there, but many.

    I have reported spammers to google, no avail.

    What is "avail."?

    Never heard of avail?


    Once you log into your google account try

    https://groups.google.com/search/conversations?q=Depeer%20Google%20Groups

    I get no result, but I am not logged in, I don't have a Google account >anymore.


    You have to have a Gogole account.
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Thu Oct 6 21:48:59 2022
    Marco Moock wrote:

    Am 05.10.2022 um 22:04:07 Uhr schrieb The Doctor:

    Nothing but twits and trolls in Google groups.

    Not all posts are rubbish that come from there, but many.

    I would suggest a vast majority of Google Groups users use Google
    Groups to spam Usenet... not all, but quite a lot of them.

    I have reported spammers to google, no avail.

    What is "avail."?

    To "no avail" means the same as to no effect, as in, Google do nothing
    about it. (No surprise there.)

    Once you log into your google account try


    https://groups.google.com/search/conversations?q=Depeer%20Google%20Groups

    I get no result, but I am not logged in, I don't have a Google account anymore.

    I wouldn't have a Google account if they paid me... well, unless they
    paid me a lot.

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  • From Tony Stewart@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Nov 5 15:29:20 2022
    On 06/10/2022 3:32 p.m., The Doctor wrote:
    Never heard of avail?
    Was that a statement or a question mark? Yes it is a common English ,
    Oxford or Merriam-Webster word.
    Often used as an intransitive verb or a noun.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/avail

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Sun Nov 6 10:00:52 2022
    On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 19:46:12 +0200
    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Hello,

    is there any way to report spamming users to Google so they block them
    or is Google just a nasty company that supports sending spam?

    I have seen the question , whether there is a way to get Google to block
    people who spam through googlegroups , asked many times and I've never seen a positive reply so probably no. I think googlegroups provide a way to mark a post as something bad (spam , pornographic , etc.) but how it affects the
    post I'm not sure. Whatever the effect , I think you only see it if you read usenet through googlegroups and it only affects the post not the poster. And you have to do the marking through the googlegroups interface. So no good for someone who doesn't use googlegroups to begin with.

    Is there a relevant amount of legit posts from Google Groups or is it
    just the best idea to put all post from Google in the killfile?

    I've seen many legitimate posts from googlegroups. On comp.lang.fortran
    many good contributors post through googlegroups. In the past I've seen
    Thomas Dickey (of xterm fame) post on comp.terminals through
    googlegroups although that was years ago.

    So if you filter all googlegroups posts , you may end up missing some good stuff but it depends on the group. It would definitely be true on comp.lang.fortran .So I would say it depends on which groups you read ,
    whether any legitimate posts on those groups are from googlegroups and how
    easy it is to filter spam. Ironically , my experience has been that spam from googlegroups follows some simple patterns (like that person who posts in Italian and all capitals) so it's easy to do more targeted filtering rather than everything which comes from googlegroups. I don't regularly visit news.admin.net-abuse.usenet .I did today and I see that the googlegroups spam on this group is a lot more unpredictable than what I've seen in other groups and I don't see any legitimate posts from googlegroups so for this group at least , filtering everything from googlegroups seems by far the most convenient option and a harmless one.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Sun Nov 6 13:48:50 2022
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 19:46:12 +0200 Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:

    is there any way to report spamming users to Google so they block them
    or is Google just a nasty company that supports sending spam?

    I have seen the question , whether there is a way to get Google to block >people who spam through googlegroups , asked many times and I've never seen a >positive reply so probably no. I think googlegroups provide a way to mark a >post as something bad (spam , pornographic , etc.) but how it affects the >post I'm not sure. Whatever the effect , I think you only see it if you read >usenet through googlegroups and it only affects the post not the poster. And >you have to do the marking through the googlegroups interface. So no good for >someone who doesn't use googlegroups to begin with.

    Seriously?

    Spam isn't fought on a "mark a post" basis, and it isn't fought by
    "blocking spamming users". Google Groups peers with sites that are spam sources. A proper spam countermeasure is performed on the feed, not
    individual users and not after receiving the feed. It's not like Google
    Groups would act upon NoCeM's.

    Anyone posting to this newsgroup should be well aware of the basics of
    spam countermeasures, including the sockpuppet Marco Moock, who has
    asked that question numerous times in the past.

    . . .

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun Nov 6 23:22:57 2022
    In article <tk8e02$35283$1@dont-email.me>,
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 19:46:12 +0200 Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:

    is there any way to report spamming users to Google so they block them
    or is Google just a nasty company that supports sending spam?

    I have seen the question , whether there is a way to get Google to block >>people who spam through googlegroups , asked many times and I've never seen a >>positive reply so probably no. I think googlegroups provide a way to mark a >>post as something bad (spam , pornographic , etc.) but how it affects the >>post I'm not sure. Whatever the effect , I think you only see it if you read >>usenet through googlegroups and it only affects the post not the poster. And >>you have to do the marking through the googlegroups interface. So no good for >>someone who doesn't use googlegroups to begin with.

    Seriously?

    Spam isn't fought on a "mark a post" basis, and it isn't fought by
    "blocking spamming users". Google Groups peers with sites that are spam >sources. A proper spam countermeasure is performed on the feed, not >individual users and not after receiving the feed. It's not like Google >Groups would act upon NoCeM's.

    Anyone posting to this newsgroup should be well aware of the basics of
    spam countermeasures, including the sockpuppet Marco Moock, who has
    asked that question numerous times in the past.


    I wonder if multiple complaints will do the trick?
    . . .


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