Hi all,

I've been setting up an INN server again, after a 2.5 decade hiatus from usenet. All is well, it works, pulls in news with pullnews. Can't post
from the server yet, I'm using accounts on other servers for now.

But, I want to become a part of the larger usenet again (and to be able
to post from my own server), so I'm looking at setting up peering at
some point. When I look at eternal-september.org, as an example, it
requires that I run cleanfeed. But it seems cleanfeed was last updated
in 2020.

Is cleanfeed still relevant in 2025? Should I attempt to set it up? In
fact, I have it set up, but without recent info to put in its
configuration files, I doubt it'll do much good.

Any hints would be appreciated!

Cheers,

Koen

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On 05.05.2025 17:29 Uhr gmc wrote:

But, I want to become a part of the larger usenet again (and to be
able to post from my own server), so I'm looking at setting up
peering at some point. When I look at eternal-september.org, as an
example, it requires that I run cleanfeed. But it seems cleanfeed was
last updated in 2020.

Is that a problem?
IIRC many sites tell they use it.

Depending on the user base, it is important to restrict posting, so no mass-postings can be done and other stuff like nameshifting or
crossposts can be regulated.



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Marco

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On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:29:19 +0200, gmc wrote:

But it seems cleanfeed was last updated
in 2020.

Is cleanfeed still relevant in 2025? Should I attempt to set it up? In

Welcome back :)

Cleanfeed has its problems in I guess some default state classifying some messages as binary when they are not, mostly this is if the body (not
headers) of articles have various ipv6 addresses in it, it is rare-ish
and doesnt always trip so you might put 50 of them in one post that
passes or a post with 2 in it and get a 439.

I've not seen Steve post in over a year, so chances are he's giving it no
love and concentrating on life instead.

The warning aside, you do need some basic filtering for the blatently
obvious stuff, I'd add cleanfeed anyway as some filtering is better than
none, and maybe you can see where it falsely triggers on binaries and fix
it :)

I use DNews (yes there are still some of us around) and as its filter
compiles internally and written different it's no good as an example for
INN users.

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Den 2025-05-05 kl. 23:48, skrev noel:

On Mon, 05 May 2025 17:29:19 +0200, gmc wrote:

But it seems cleanfeed was last updated
in 2020.

Is cleanfeed still relevant in 2025? Should I attempt to set it up? In

Welcome back :)

Thanks :)

The warning aside, you do need some basic filtering for the blatently
obvious stuff, I'd add cleanfeed anyway as some filtering is better than none, and maybe you can see where it falsely triggers on binaries and fix
it :)

Yep, I added it, it's running, but the configuration (bad_*) files is
nothing more than the example files. I'm wondering how people populate
those files.

I use DNews (yes there are still some of us around) and as its filter compiles internally and written different it's no good as an example for
INN users.

Hey, I'm still using sendmail for my mail server, no raised eyebrows here :)

Cheers,

Koen

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Den 2025-05-05 kl. 20:54, skrev Marco Moock:

On 05.05.2025 17:29 Uhr gmc wrote:

But, I want to become a part of the larger usenet again (and to be
able to post from my own server), so I'm looking at setting up
peering at some point. When I look at eternal-september.org, as an
example, it requires that I run cleanfeed. But it seems cleanfeed was
last updated in 2020.

Is that a problem?
IIRC many sites tell they use it.

No, it doesn't have to be a problem. I mean, it was just one "pkg
install" away and it seems to be running now. I'm mostly wondering where
those who are using it get their configs from? The example bad_* files
that ship with it are, well, just that: examples. There isn't all that
much in it.

Do people create their own bad_* files based on abuse seen in the wild
and shared via the news.admin groups? Or do people share those files
among each other?

Depending on the user base, it is important to restrict posting, so no mass-postings can be done and other stuff like nameshifting or
crossposts can be regulated.

Agreed. I'm not too worried about my userbase though, we're a small and
tight community, we all know each other well enough to trust that we
don't abuse the network.

Cheers,

Koen

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