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  • Re: can you guys peer some of our newsgroups?

    From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to Ivo Gandolfo on Thu Sep 28 18:21:36 2023
    On 2023-09-28, Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> wrote:
    On 26/09/2023 17:44, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
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    can you guys peer my groups when peering with our server?
    hispagatos.talk
    hispagatos.comunicados
    hispagatos.ayuda
    alt.2600.madrid
    hispagatos.test # this is not important we use it for testing
    [cut]

    Thank you
    Happy Hacking
    ReK2


    I have received your test today from my peer's, but finished in "junk",
    due to not-exist group in my server. You can release the info of your hyearch., the checkgroup and the GPG sign, to process all automatically?

    https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/usenet-hier.html

    F/U n.a.h

    ok I added:
    https://news.hispagatos.org/pgpkey.txt https://news.hispagatos.org/control_ctl.txt

    I also added it to my /etc/inn/control.ctl

    still reading the file first time doing this
    so not sure if this is what you needed?

    Thanks

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 22:13:17 2023

    https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/usenet-hier.html

    F/U n.a.h

    ok I added:
    https://news.hispagatos.org/pgpkey.txt https://news.hispagatos.org/control_ctl.txt

    I also added it to my /etc/inn/control.ctl

    still reading the file first time doing this
    so not sure if this is what you needed?



    ok with a lot of pain I found the signcontrol had to compile python2
    after some time, I was able to run it and create the control file for the checkgroups and then try rnews with the file it created.
    Then at first I was not sure if it run, I was running it as a user
    since I have nologin for the news user but nothing will show up on
    journalctl -u innd etc
    so decided to give shell to news user and I did it that way
    and finally a got a bunch of controlcha msg's with hispagatos and others
    like local. private. general control... etc so at least I know this time
    rnews seems to have run, what I do not know if now is working as is
    supposed or not :facepalm: O_o

    can someone confirm with me?

    Thank you
    PS: we really need to update most of the software... is prehistoric :)


    Happy Hacking
    ReK2
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  • From Ivo Gandolfo@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 18:46:41 2023
    On 29/09/2023 18:22, Julien ÉLIE wrote:
    As I think we're currently only two hierarchy administrators to use signcontrol.py (fr.* and rocksolid.*), it was not my priority to update
    it to Python 3, especially when no one had asked yet.

    3 with me :)

    I note your need, and will soon work out to update it.  (Though now you
    have managed to make it work with Python 2, there's no longer a hurry ^^
    it will be for the next hierarchy administrator who wishes to use signcontrol.py.)

    As the latest stable Debian (bookworm, released in June 2023) dropped
    Python 2, it will also be useful to me because I'm still delaying the
    update because of that!


    I have just modified them. When I finish I send it back to you


    Sincerely

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 18:22:03 2023
    Hi ReK2,

    ok with a lot of pain I found the signcontrol had to compile python2

    I assume you're using signcontrol.py (as signcontrol is in Perl).
    Yes, the README says "make sure to use Python 2.x because signcontrol.py
    is not compatible yet with Python 3.x".


    can someone confirm with me?
    Received!
    <checkgroups-1695930554@matrix.hispagatos.org>

    FWIW, the descriptions could be made shorter. The recommendation is to
    keep the line (newsgroup name + description) below 72-80 chars or so for
    news clients to display them entirely. No need saying "A group for".


    PS: we really need to update most of the software... is prehistoric :)

    As I think we're currently only two hierarchy administrators to use signcontrol.py (fr.* and rocksolid.*), it was not my priority to update
    it to Python 3, especially when no one had asked yet.
    In the past, other hierarchies had used it but stopped sending control
    articles (dictator.*, grisbi.*, hr.* and perhaps a few other ones).

    I note your need, and will soon work out to update it. (Though now you
    have managed to make it work with Python 2, there's no longer a hurry ^^
    it will be for the next hierarchy administrator who wishes to use signcontrol.py.)

    As the latest stable Debian (bookworm, released in June 2023) dropped
    Python 2, it will also be useful to me because I'm still delaying the
    update because of that!

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid on Fri Sep 29 18:44:09 2023
    On 2023-09-29, Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> wrote:
    I assume you're using signcontrol.py (as signcontrol is in Perl).
    Yes, the README says "make sure to use Python 2.x because signcontrol.py
    is not compatible yet with Python 3.x".

    yes indeed the python one :)

    FWIW, the descriptions could be made shorter. The recommendation is to
    keep the line (newsgroup name + description) below 72-80 chars or so for
    news clients to display them entirely. No need saying "A group for".


    Thank you I will take into consideration for the next time.
    I am a noob at usenet administration ... O_o learning as I go :)

    I note your need, and will soon work out to update it. (Though now you
    have managed to make it work with Python 2, there's no longer a hurry ^^
    it will be for the next hierarchy administrator who wishes to use signcontrol.py.)

    yes indeed I already have python2 working alongside python that points
    to python3 as it used to be before most GNU/Linux distros drop support.
    But maybe if one day I am bored I can write it in GO or Rust

    As the latest stable Debian (bookworm, released in June 2023) dropped
    Python 2, it will also be useful to me because I'm still delaying the
    update because of that!

    I remember there used to be a python script to upgrade simple scripts to python3 I was not able to find it but it should be somewhere maybe give
    that a try and at least it will short the ammount of work since is a
    small python script most of the issues are prob related to variables
    syntax and print statements

    Happy Hacking
    ReK2

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to Ivo Gandolfo on Fri Sep 29 18:45:14 2023
    On 2023-09-29, Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> wrote:
    On 29/09/2023 18:22, Julien ÉLIE wrote:
    update because of that!


    I have just modified them. When I finish I send it back to you


    nice! thank you.

    Happy Hacking
    ReK2

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 22:01:06 2023
    Hi ReK2,

    I remember there used to be a python script to upgrade simple scripts to python3 I was not able to find

    Yes, this script is just named "2to3".


    at least it will short the amount of work since is a
    small python script most of the issues are prob related to variables
    syntax and print statements

    Sure! Converting such small scripts to Python 3 syntax is not a big
    deal. I should have done it sooner; the only reason for not having done
    it yet is that I had not motivated myself to do it and always
    prioritized something else :)
    Now is time to do it, at last!

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    les questions. »

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