In article <vqmofm$6r9q$1@news.xmission.com>,
Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
In article <vqmi1p$f1f$1@reader1.panix.com>,
Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
[Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals]
I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
programming language (https://rust-lang.org/). Rust is a
compiled, type- and memory- safe language that has been in open >>>development since 2010, and is rapidly gaining adoption in
industry and research. It often comes up in discussions related
to C and C++, but no existing group is dedicated to it.
Thoughts?
Keith will tell you that it is off-topic here.
Topicality is part of the reason the Big-8 guidance for
introducing these discussions recommends cross-posting to groups
where the topic comes up semi-regularly, but setting follow ups
to news.groups.proposals, as I had done, and have done again
here. ;-)
- Dan C.
[Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals]
I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
programming language (https://rust-lang.org/). Rust is a
compiled, type- and memory- safe language that has been in open
development since 2010, and is rapidly gaining adoption in
industry and research. It often comes up in discussions related
to C and C++, but no existing group is dedicated to it.
Thoughts?
I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
programming language (https://rust-lang.org/). Rust is a
compiled, type- and memory- safe language that has been in open
development since 2010, and is rapidly gaining adoption in
industry and research. It often comes up in discussions related
to C and C++, but no existing group is dedicated to it.
Thoughts?
On 10/03/2025 11:46, Dan Cross wrote:
[Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals]
I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
programming language (https://rust-lang.org/). Rust is a
compiled, type- and memory- safe language that has been in open
development since 2010, and is rapidly gaining adoption in
industry and research. It often comes up in discussions related
to C and C++, but no existing group is dedicated to it.
Thoughts?
It would certainly be an interesting exercise. Does the mechanism for creating a big-8 group still work? Or does it even still exist?
IMO newsgroups are dead; People with genuine questions are more likely
to use something called Google.
On 2025-03-10, Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
I replied to you on the other thread,
there is a alt.comp.lang.rust read my opinion on the main thread on the
big-8 newsgroup.
also you should forward to alt.2600, alt.2600.hackers, alt.2600.madrid, >hispagatos.talk and es.comp.hackers since we speak of rust all the time,
most of us moved from C/C++ to rust 2-4 years a go.
I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust
On 11/03/2025 03:14, NewsGroups Are Dead wrote:
IMO newsgroups are dead; People with genuine questions are more likely
to use something called Google.
Yeah, even now that's what I do when I'm stuck on X. And Google shows me
a question about Y on Stack Exchange, a /bit/ like the one I'm asking,
with lots of answers like "don't do Y, do Z instead", and Z is nothing
like what I need.
Google is shit, or hadn't you noticed?
your message that you are a Spanish speaker.) It would be great
to get wider audience aware of the discussion, and while I
further assume most readers of those groups also read English,
as a courtesy it would be nice to say something in Spanish, but
I myself am not qualified to do so.
- Dan C.
On 11/03/2025 12:12, Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 11/03/2025 03:14, NewsGroups Are Dead wrote:
IMO newsgroups are dead; People with genuine questions are more likely
to use something called Google.
Yeah, even now that's what I do when I'm stuck on X. And Google shows me
a question about Y on Stack Exchange, a /bit/ like the one I'm asking,
with lots of answers like "don't do Y, do Z instead", and Z is nothing
like what I need.
Google is shit, or hadn't you noticed?
You can always ask ChatGPT ... that'll do all the googling for you and
then give you the wrong answer. But with confidence.
your message that you are a Spanish speaker.) It would be great
to get wider audience aware of the discussion, and while I
further assume most readers of those groups also read English,
as a courtesy it would be nice to say something in Spanish, but
I myself am not qualified to do so.
Sure I can share something, what exactly you want me to post? I can
translate it in a way that makes sense.
your message that you are a Spanish speaker.) It would be great
to get wider audience aware of the discussion, and while I
further assume most readers of those groups also read English,
as a courtesy it would be nice to say something in Spanish, but
I myself am not qualified to do so.
- Dan C.
Sure I can share something, what exactly you want me to post? I can
translate it in a way that makes sense.
It does exist but junta is in charge so the level of bureaucracy must
be bypassed before anything can be done.
It would certainly be an interesting exercise. Does the mechanism for creating a big-8 group still work? Or does it even still exist?
Greetings.
On 2025-03-10 16:35, Richard Heathfield wrote:
It would certainly be an interesting exercise. Does the
mechanism for creating a big-8 group still work? Or does it
even still exist?
Yes, a couple new groups (comp.lang.go and
comp.infosystems.gemini) have been created in the past few years,
so the process is still working. Documentation on the group
creation process is available at <https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Category:Group_Creation>.
On 2025-03-13, rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:
your message that you are a Spanish speaker.) It would be great
to get wider audience aware of the discussion, and while I
further assume most readers of those groups also read English,
as a courtesy it would be nice to say something in Spanish, but
I myself am not qualified to do so.
- Dan C.
Sure I can share something, what exactly you want me to post? I can
translate it in a way that makes sense.
ok I added a spanish announcement to hispagatos.talk alt.2600.madrid and >es.comp.hackers
Also posted it on mastodon/fediverse under the tags #newsgroup #usenet
#rust #rustlang
you can toot/retoot/bump read here: >https://hispagatos.space/@rek2/114161709899525162
there is a screenshot attached of my post to the Spanish groups.
I still have not posted it on the hacker groups alt.2600 alt.2600.* those are in
English do you want me to post there as well?
On 3/10/2025 6:46 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
[Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals]
I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
programming language (https://rust-lang.org/). Rust is a
compiled, type- and memory- safe language that has been in open
development since 2010, and is rapidly gaining adoption in
industry and research. It often comes up in discussions related
to C and C++, but no existing group is dedicated to it.
Thoughts?
- Dan C.
There is a newsgroup for rust already, alt.comp.lang.rust, that is not
very active at all. The reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/ group
is fairly active comparatively.
Lynn
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote at 03:14 this Tuesday (GMT):
There is a newsgroup for rust already, alt.comp.lang.rust, that is not
very active at all. The reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/ group
is fairly active comparatively.
Lynn
alt.* newsgroups aren't technically official.
candycanearter07 wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote at 03:14 this Tuesday (GMT):
There is a newsgroup for rust already, alt.comp.lang.rust, that is not
very active at all. The reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/ group
is fairly active comparatively.
Lynn
alt.* newsgroups aren't technically official.
There is a proposal on the table to create a new newsgroup. To my
knowledge the response has been underwhelming. There is already a
presence for the topic in UseNet, notwithstanding how "official" it
might be. There is a presence on Reddit that is "fairly active comparatively". There's a website with user forums, and a discord group.
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