On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 08:00:03 -0700, news.announce.newgroups Moderation Team <newgroups-request@isc.org> wrote:

What follows is a complete list of newsgroups in the "Big Eight"
hierarchies (comp.*, humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*,
soc.*, and talk.*) with descriptions. Moderated newsgroups are marked
with the string "(Moderated)" at the end of the description.

snips, sample groups and totals...

comp.arch Computer architecture.
...
humanities.classics Discussion of ancient Greece and Rome.
...
misc.survivalism Disaster and long-term survival techniques and theory.
...
news.groups Discussions and lists of newsgroups.
...
rec.antiques Discussing antiques and vintage items.
...
sci.fractals Objects of non-integral dimension and other chaos.
...
soc.religion.quaker The Religious Society of Friends.
...
talk.religion.newage Esoteric and minority religions & philosophies.
...

comp.* 685 642y 43m
humanities.* 8 6y 2m
misc.* 108 96y 12m
news.* 28 16y 12m
rec.* 689 636y 53m
sci.* 198 174y 24m
soc.* 245 200y 45m
talk.* 31 29y 2m
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1992 1799y 193m

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:00:04 -0700, news.announce.newgroups Moderation Team <newgroups-request@isc.org> wrote:

What follows is a complete list of newsgroups in the "Big Eight"
hierarchies (comp.*, humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*,
soc.*, and talk.*) with descriptions. Moderated newsgroups are marked
with the string "(Moderated)" at the end of the description.

snips, sample groups and totals...

comp.arch Computer architecture.
...
humanities.classics Discussion of ancient Greece and Rome.
...
misc.survivalism Disaster and long-term survival techniques and theory.
...
news.groups Discussions and lists of newsgroups.
...
rec.antiques Discussing antiques and vintage items.
...
sci.fractals Objects of non-integral dimension and other chaos.
...
soc.religion.quaker The Religious Society of Friends.
...
talk.religion.newage Esoteric and minority religions & philosophies.
...

comp.* 685 642y 43m
humanities.* 8 6y 2m
misc.* 108 96y 12m
news.* 28 16y 12m
rec.* 689 636y 53m
sci.* 198 174y 24m
soc.* 245 200y 45m
talk.* 31 29y 2m
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1992 1799y 193m

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On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 08:00:05 -0700, news.announce.newgroups Moderation Team <newgroups-request@isc.org> wrote:

What follows is a complete list of newsgroups in the "Big Eight"
hierarchies (comp.*, humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*,
soc.*, and talk.*) with descriptions. Moderated newsgroups are marked
with the string "(Moderated)" at the end of the description.

snips, sample groups and totals...

comp.arch Computer architecture.
...
humanities.classics Discussion of ancient Greece and Rome.
...
misc.survivalism Disaster and long-term survival techniques and theory.
...
news.groups Discussions and lists of newsgroups.
...
rec.antiques Discussing antiques and vintage items.
...
sci.fractals Objects of non-integral dimension and other chaos.
...
soc.religion.quaker The Religious Society of Friends.
...
talk.religion.newage Esoteric and minority religions & philosophies.
...

comp.* 685 642y 43m
humanities.* 8 6y 2m
misc.* 108 96y 12m
news.* 28 16y 12m
rec.* 689 636y 53m
sci.* 198 174y 24m
soc.* 245 200y 45m
talk.* 31 29y 2m
---------------------------------------
1992 1799y 193m

note: about nine out of ten (90%) unmoderated

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news.announce.newgroups Moderation Team <newgroups-request@isc.org>
writes:

What follows is a complete list of newsgroups in the "Big Eight"
hierarchies (comp.*, humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*,
soc.*, and talk.*) with descriptions. Moderated newsgroups are marked
with the string "(Moderated)" at the end of the description.

Thanks!

Most versions of news support a "checkgroups" control message that can
be used to help keep your active file in sync with the "standard"
Usenet groups. This newsgroup list is in the format expected by such software.

Even with the line breaks? For instance:

--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

comp.compression.research Discussions about data compression
research. (Moderated)

--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

Is it accidental or these scripts actually deal okay with these line
breaks? (Just curious.)

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In article <87v7tafx60.fsf@example.com>,
Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:

Even with the line breaks? For instance: >--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

comp.compression.research Discussions about data compression
research. (Moderated) >--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

That line break should not be there. It is not part of the master
checkgroups file. I'm not sure where it is being introduced....

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mccomb@medieval.org (Todd M. McComb) writes:

In article <87v7tafx60.fsf@example.com>,
Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:

Even with the line breaks? For instance: >>--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

comp.compression.research Discussions about data compression
research. (Moderated) >>--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

That line break should not be there. It is not part of the master checkgroups file. I'm not sure where it is being introduced....

Any chance that it's

X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)

doing it? I never used trn. If it's not yours newsreader or text
editor, then it must the NNTP server. Or is it me somehow?

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mccomb@medieval.org (Todd M. McComb) wrote:

In article <87v7tafx60.fsf@example.com>,
Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:

Even with the line breaks? For instance: >>--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

comp.compression.research Discussions about data compression
research. (Moderated) >>--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

That line break should not be there. It is not part of the master checkgroups file. I'm not sure where it is being introduced....

The newsreader may add it.

I see it via GNUS' default (formatted) view but it disappears when
looking at the raw message.

--
I do not bite, I just want to play.

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Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:

mccomb@medieval.org (Todd M. McComb) writes:

Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:

Even with the line breaks? For instance: >>>--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

comp.compression.research Discussions about data compression
research. (Moderated) >>>--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

That line break should not be there. It is not part of the master >>checkgroups file. I'm not sure where it is being introduced....

Any chance that it's

X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)

doing it? I never used trn. If it's not yours newsreader or text
editor, then it must the NNTP server. Or is it me somehow?

There is no chance whatsoever that it's trn. trn doesn't have a built-in
text editor. The user chooses which text editor is called in the
composer. Composer input is a minimal set of headers for a root article
or minimal headers plus quote for a followup. trn performs minimal sanity checks on composer output to verify the presense of required headers. Then there is another process that prepares the proto article for injection,
which does minimal parsing and checks again for minimal required headers.

trn does as little as possible. With trn, it's literally the
responsibility of the user to write an article that complies with
standards and to prepare an article in a conventional output.

If the user cannot and will not be responsible for writing a
conventional article, then use another newsreader.

Perhaps you might familiarize yourself with the newsreader before
commenting.

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In article <87ikpaf2vg.fsf@example.com>,
Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:

Any chance that it's
X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)
doing it?

If you're talking about my newsreader, then no, that's not how the
checkgroups are posted.

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yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

mccomb@medieval.org (Todd M. McComb) wrote:

In article <87v7tafx60.fsf@example.com>,
Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:

Even with the line breaks? For instance: >>>--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

comp.compression.research Discussions about data compression
research. (Moderated) >>>--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---

That line break should not be there. It is not part of the master
checkgroups file. I'm not sure where it is being introduced....

The newsreader may add it.

I see it via GNUS' default (formatted) view but it disappears when
looking at the raw message.

You're right. It's Gnus indeed. I've never realized it does that.

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