• Re: Contact for top1000 list?

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/09/2022 18:50, Nigel Reed wrote:<br>
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    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">For a long time, I've been unable to submit to the top 1000 list due to
    the owners mail server not accepting my IP address.

    I've tried to email him from other accounts but it seems like he cannot
    be bothered to respond to me. Does he talk to anyone else? I need to
    get my ip whitelisted otherwise I cannot submit.
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    He is running a hobby site like most people here so you are just
    wasting time trying to contact him/her just to be listed on his/her
    useless list. I doubt anybody is ever looking at the list and most
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    Do you think that your news server will feature on the top 1000 list
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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 19 12:50:02 2022
    For a long time, I've been unable to submit to the top 1000 list due to
    the owners mail server not accepting my IP address.

    I've tried to email him from other accounts but it seems like he cannot
    be bothered to respond to me. Does he talk to anyone else? I need to
    get my ip whitelisted otherwise I cannot submit.

    <top1000@anthologeek.net>: connect to
    mail1.anthologeek.net[195.154.56.177]:25:
    Connection timed out




    Thanks,
    Nigel


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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Sun Sep 25 21:38:41 2022
    On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:50:02 -0500
    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

    For a long time, I've been unable to submit to the top 1000 list due
    to the owners mail server not accepting my IP address.

    I've tried to email him from other accounts but it seems like he
    cannot be bothered to respond to me. Does he talk to anyone else? I
    need to get my ip whitelisted otherwise I cannot submit.

    <top1000@anthologeek.net>: connect to mail1.anthologeek.net[195.154.56.177]:25:
    Connection timed out


    Since there is a resounding silence, I am reluctant to say that I can
    no longer provide stats to the Top 100 list.

    If that means some peers are going to drop me, that's fine.
    Unfortunately, it's out of my hands if Sameh Ghane refuses to talk to
    me.



    Thanks,
    Nigel



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  • From bje@ripco.com@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Tue Sep 27 14:37:44 2022
    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

    Since there is a resounding silence, I am reluctant to say that I can
    no longer provide stats to the Top 100 list.

    If that means some peers are going to drop me, that's fine.
    Unfortunately, it's out of my hands if Sameh Ghane refuses to talk to
    me.

    I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

    There is only around 80 systems that contribute monthly and I checked my
    feeds, out of the 10 inbound, only 5 seem to bother.

    I really doubt anyone would refuse to peer if you don't contribute.

    That whole thing was like a penis competition for speed on how fast you can toss articles around and really doesn't have much meaning anymore. If they
    from the start would of separated systems that carry alt.binaries.* and ones that don't, it might of been a good road map on who to peer with.

    Right now I doubt anyone cares an article shows up 10 seconds later than somewhere else.

    -bruce
    bje@ripco.com

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to bje@ripco.com on Wed Sep 28 12:58:04 2022
    On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 14:37:44 -0000 (UTC)
    bje@ripco.com wrote:


    Right now I doubt anyone cares an article shows up 10 seconds later
    than somewhere else.

    That's probably a true observation.

    Thanks,
    Nigel




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  • From Jesse Rehmer@21:1/5 to bje@ripco.com on Thu Sep 29 10:40:27 2022
    On Sep 27, 2022 at 9:37:44 AM CDT, "bje@ripco.com" <bje@ripco.com> wrote:
    I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

    There is only around 80 systems that contribute monthly and I checked my feeds, out of the 10 inbound, only 5 seem to bother.

    I really doubt anyone would refuse to peer if you don't contribute.

    That whole thing was like a penis competition for speed on how fast you can toss articles around and really doesn't have much meaning anymore. If they from the start would of separated systems that carry alt.binaries.* and ones that don't, it might of been a good road map on who to peer with.

    Right now I doubt anyone cares an article shows up 10 seconds later than somewhere else.

    -bruce
    bje@ripco.com

    I agree, there isn't a useful metric with the current state of top1000. My server is generally in the top 10 and I'm basically just a transit peer, very few articles originate here. I have ranked higher than GigaNews, but I don't see anywhere near the same number of articles, and GigaNews is still a large injection point (yes for non-binary articles, too).

    It might be useful in some way if, like Bruce said, you separate out commercial/binary/full-feed entities from the rest, but still only if a larger sample of servers submit in both categories. If the commercial providers, or more than the single one that does (uzoreto.com), would submit there might be
    a better picture of distrubution or origin since they truly "see" more of Usenet than everyone else.

    Cheers,
    Jesse

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