• DOS usenet client?

    From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 10:58:37 2023
    I don't suppose anyone has come across a DOS usenet client that is free
    or abandonware?

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  • From Richard@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 16:52:31 2023
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    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> spake the secret code <20230406105837.41f8d9fe@wibble.sysadmininc.com> thusly:

    I don't suppose anyone has come across a DOS usenet client that is free
    or abandonware?

    trn had MSDOS support, but I'm not aware of any built clients laying
    around; you'd probably have to build it from source. I'm in the
    process of modernizing it but only plan to support Windows, not DOS. <https://github.com/LegalizeAdulthood/trn>
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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to fRichard on Thu Apr 6 18:21:57 2023
    fRichard <legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com> wrote:

    [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> spake the secret code <20230406105837.41f8d9fe@wibble.sysadmininc.com> thusly:

    I don't suppose anyone has come across a DOS usenet client that is free
    or abandonware?

    trn had MSDOS support, but I'm not aware of any built clients laying
    around; you'd probably have to build it from source. I'm in the
    process of modernizing it but only plan to support Windows, not DOS. <https://github.com/LegalizeAdulthood/trn>


    I used KA9Q NOS back in the DOS days.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KA9Q>

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Thu Apr 6 18:32:38 2023
    On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 10:58:37 -0500,
    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    I don't suppose anyone has come across a DOS usenet client that
    is free or abandonware?

    Back in the day I used PNR (palmtop news reader) on my HP200LX for
    reading (and posting?) news. It ran under the 200LX System
    Manager, so I'm not sure it would run in pure DOS--but perhaps it
    could be helpful. Some info is here...

    http://panix.com/~theise/LXTCP.TXT

    As I recall, it was developed by Rod Whitby, a right good guy.
    I've fallen out of touch with him over the years, but could try to
    make contact of you have an interest.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Thu Apr 6 19:36:22 2023
    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    I don't suppose anyone has come across a DOS usenet client that is free
    or abandonware?

    www.newsreaders.com used to be a good site for questions like this,
    but it seems to be dead now.

    In the old days, I used YARN (Yet Another Read News), which runs on
    DOS, is an off-line news/mail client and uses SOUP (Simple Offline
    Usenet Packet) packets.

    I used the uqwk program on UNIX to get the SOUP packets to and from
    YARN. I don't know if there are similar SOUPer programs for DOS.

    I checked my notes, URL lists and (News) 'posted' file, but all URLs
    are either dead or point to decades-old pages which probably also
    contain dead links.

    BTW, if you want to pursue this, you probably should (cross-)post to news.software.readers or/and alt.usenet.offline-reader (if that latter
    group is still alive). Users mostly hang out in news.software.readers,
    not in this group (news.software.nntp).

    Good luck.

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Thu Apr 6 15:35:40 2023
    On 6 Apr 2023 19:36:22 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    I don't suppose anyone has come across a DOS usenet client that is
    free or abandonware?

    www.newsreaders.com used to be a good site for questions like this,
    but it seems to be dead now.

    In the old days, I used YARN (Yet Another Read News), which runs on
    DOS, is an off-line news/mail client and uses SOUP (Simple Offline
    Usenet Packet) packets.

    I used the uqwk program on UNIX to get the SOUP packets to and from
    YARN. I don't know if there are similar SOUPer programs for DOS.

    I checked my notes, URL lists and (News) 'posted' file, but all URLs
    are either dead or point to decades-old pages which probably also
    contain dead links.

    BTW, if you want to pursue this, you probably should (cross-)post to news.software.readers or/and alt.usenet.offline-reader (if that latter
    group is still alive). Users mostly hang out in news.software.readers,
    not in this group (news.software.nntp).

    Thanks to you and the others for suggestions. I was really looking for
    a whole package not really something that picks packets up from
    something else. I've found a number of those. I'll try the news.software.readers group you mentioned.

    Thanks,



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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Fri Apr 7 08:35:53 2023
    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    I don't suppose anyone has come across a DOS usenet client that is free
    or abandonware?

    Lynx has some bare-bones newsreader functionality and there are
    builds of it for DOS linked at the bottom of this page: http://lynx.invisible-island.net/release/

    The links are dead, but the wayback machine saves the day: http://web.archive.org/web/20151231074959/http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/lynxport.htm

    Better options probably do exist though.

    Tin supported DOS at some point:
    "with tin 1.2, there are additional makefiles for Amiga, Borland C
    (MS-DOS) and IBM Workframe/2 (OS/2)." ... https://invisible-island.net/tin/tin.html

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Fri Apr 7 17:41:59 2023
    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    [...]

    Thanks to you and the others for suggestions. I was really looking for
    a whole package not really something that picks packets up from
    something else. I've found a number of those. I'll try the news.software.readers group you mentioned.

    Thanks,

    BTW, you are really looking for a *DOS* (i.e. MS-DOS, PC DOS, DR DOS,
    etc., etc.) client, aren't you? Not some CUI (Character/Console UI)
    client which can run in a 'DOS-like' Command Prompt window under
    (MS-)Windows?

    If you *are* looking for the latter, then 'tin' (guess what I'm using
    and on which OS? :-)), slrn, trn, etc. are possible candidates.

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Fri Apr 7 14:24:51 2023
    On 7 Apr 2023 17:41:59 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    [...]

    Thanks to you and the others for suggestions. I was really looking
    for a whole package not really something that picks packets up from something else. I've found a number of those. I'll try the news.software.readers group you mentioned.

    Thanks,

    BTW, you are really looking for a *DOS* (i.e. MS-DOS, PC DOS, DR
    DOS, etc., etc.) client, aren't you? Not some CUI (Character/Console
    UI) client which can run in a 'DOS-like' Command Prompt window under (MS-)Windows?

    Yes, if you want to be pedantic about it, I'm looking for a *DOS*
    client, not something that'll run on Windows.

    If you *are* looking for the latter, then 'tin' (guess what I'm
    using and on which OS? :-)), slrn, trn, etc. are possible candidates.
    tin is a possibility. Thank you.


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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Fri Apr 7 20:18:01 2023
    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    On 7 Apr 2023 17:41:59 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    [...]

    Thanks to you and the others for suggestions. I was really looking
    for a whole package not really something that picks packets up from something else. I've found a number of those. I'll try the news.software.readers group you mentioned.

    Thanks,

    BTW, you are really looking for a *DOS* (i.e. MS-DOS, PC DOS, DR
    DOS, etc., etc.) client, aren't you? Not some CUI (Character/Console
    UI) client which can run in a 'DOS-like' Command Prompt window under (MS-)Windows?

    Yes, if you want to be pedantic about it, I'm looking for a *DOS*
    client, not something that'll run on Windows.

    Huh? There's nothing pedantic about it!

    There's a *big* difference between a program running under DOS and a
    program running in a Command Prompt (cmd.exe) window under MS-Windows.

    Note the "running in a Command Prompt (cmd.exe) window" qualifier. For example my tin copy runs in a Command Prompt window under MS-Windows,
    but as it relies on DLLs, there's no way it would run on DOS.

    If you *are* looking for the latter, then 'tin' (guess what I'm
    using and on which OS? :-)), slrn, trn, etc. are possible candidates.

    tin is a possibility. Thank you.

    Yes, I saw Kev's response. In a previous life I looked at the make
    file for the DOS version. The difficulty probably lies in the NNTP
    (versus local spool) part, so you'll need some (TCP/IP) network stack on
    DOS.

    Anyway, good luck. Should be an interesting exercise.

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Sat Apr 8 02:15:10 2023
    On 7 Apr 2023 20:18:01 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    There's a *big* difference between a program running under DOS and a program running in a Command Prompt (cmd.exe) window under MS-Windows.

    Note the "running in a Command Prompt (cmd.exe) window" qualifier.
    For example my tin copy runs in a Command Prompt window under
    MS-Windows, but as it relies on DLLs, there's no way it would run on
    DOS.

    I didn't ask for something that runs on Windows via the cmd prompt. I
    asked for something that runs on DOS, otherwise I'd have asked for a
    program than runs from the command prompt, which is totally different.

    *smh*



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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Sat Apr 8 17:53:12 2023
    Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
    On 7 Apr 2023 20:18:01 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    There's a *big* difference between a program running under DOS and a program running in a Command Prompt (cmd.exe) window under MS-Windows.

    Note the "running in a Command Prompt (cmd.exe) window" qualifier.
    For example my tin copy runs in a Command Prompt window under
    MS-Windows, but as it relies on DLLs, there's no way it would run on
    DOS.

    I didn't ask for something that runs on Windows via the cmd prompt. I
    asked for something that runs on DOS

    Sigh! No, you didn't ("ask something that runs on DOS"). You wrote:

    <quote>
    I don't suppose anyone has come across a DOS usenet client that is free
    or abandonware?
    </quote>

    If you don't want people to ask questions, then don't be ambiguous.

    And when people ask questions about your ambiguity, then be civil
    about it.

    otherwise I'd have asked for a
    program than runs from the command prompt, which is totally different.

    Well - to be pedantic :-( -, it can be different, but is not always different.

    But yes, as I wrote, "There's a *big* difference ...", that's why I
    asked.

    *smh*

    Perhaps less shaking and more paying attention to what you write?

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