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  • Re: google prediction

    From William Unruh@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 18 21:12:36 2024
    On 2024-02-18, D <J@M> wrote:

    the only prediction thus far is that google shall decommission their usenet gateway as they announced last 14 december to be effective 15 february 2024 then moved the goal posts to the persisting expectation of 22 february 2024, so they can easily modify their public announcement without previous notice and keep doing that until the cows come home . . . if and when their usenet gateway is actually disconnected, then dozens of spam-friendly news servers could experience a measurable increase in spam, troll-farm infestation, etc. certainly some news server administrators may be motivated to tighten their restrictions on cross-posting, user registration requirements, and throttle server access to limit use and potential abuse; simply limiting cross-posts to five (5) and depeering any servers that allow more would be a good start, better if crossposting were eliminated altogether, but it will get stricter

    I disagree. Google is the apparently the site of most of the
    spam/troll-farm infectation,.... precisely because it is so easy to do
    so. Make it harder an many will give up.
    Banning cross posting is silly, since some questions could be answered
    by people inhabiting may groups. But then 5 is probably a reasonable
    limit.
    Unfortunately usenet is dying, and being replaced by things like quora, redditt,... where it is impossible to find stuff, and with the
    sideproblem that those place use your having used their place once to
    innundate you with posts about everything and anything. Ie, the noise to
    signal ration is far higher from the word go than was usenet even with
    google infestation.






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  • From Indira@21:1/5 to William Unruh on Wed Feb 21 13:41:13 2024
    William Unruh wrote:

    Google is the apparently the site of most of the
    spam/troll-farm infectation,.... precisely because it is so easy to do
    so. Make it harder an many will give up.

    I respectfully both agree and disagree with the way it's stated above.

    Just as most people may disagree if I postulated that gravity is due to
    some kind of almost unfathomable confluence of 4-dimensional (or maybe 11?) spacetime rushing inward like a river toward mass:energy at 11km/second at
    the same time that the mass:energy electrostatic forces push outward (equivalence principle) at what we measure at 9.8 meters/sec/sec), that's
    how I think of gravity.

    Two opposing forces.
    Meeting at the twain.

    Likewise with that huge increase in spam emanating from Google servers.
    Except there isn't any opposing force by Google.

    Spammers will always spam.
    But Google should STOP them from spamming.

    That's the confluence of the two opposing forces.
    Meeting at the twain in the middle.

    Google can implement spam filters.
    They can.
    And they do.

    At least for GMail they do.
    Right?

    The spammers spam analogy is electrostatic forces accelerating us outward.
    The Google onrushing river of spacetime forces push back into the ground.

    Electrostatic forces can oppose onrushing spacetime.
    So why can't Google implement spam filters for their Usenet users?

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