I have tried a few different readers now, and none of them really clicked.

Usenet could perhaps be enhanced if I could only find the one...

Thunderbird, Pan, Agent, Newsbin, Unison, Hogwasher, Usenapp.

Mail integration that you can not hide, no dark theme, stuck in the dial
up-era á la press enter/double click to retrieve messages, etc.

I have not bothered with the text-based clients.

Hm.

Usenapp.

They could rename it to something cool.

It costs money, but it is for macOS. :)

Okay, you are it!

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 15:57:38 -0000 (UTC), Samuel Soderberg <samuel@samuelsoderberg.se> wrote:

I have tried a few different readers now, and none of them really clicked. >Usenet could perhaps be enhanced if I could only find the one...
Thunderbird, Pan, Agent, Newsbin, Unison, Hogwasher, Usenapp.
Mail integration that you can not hide, no dark theme, stuck in the dial >up-era a la press enter/double click to retrieve messages, etc.
I have not bothered with the text-based clients.
Hm.
Usenapp.
They could rename it to something cool.
It costs money, but it is for macOS. :)
Okay, you are it!

the best freeware newsreaders are 40tude Dialog and MicroPlanet Gravity;
both are full-featured, user-friendly, and fairly easy to setup and use, especially MicroPlanet Gravity which is also more up-to-date (2021-5-2):

(using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/ >https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/files/latest/download (Setup-MPGravity-3.0.4.exe / 8.69 MB), extracted . . .
( / 2.19 MB / 15 Files, 0 Folders), installed . . .
( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 5.64 MB / 12 Files, 2 Folders) [end quoted excerpt]

(using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm

The best newsreader app for Windows is Gravity. Thanks to the fact that its C++
source code was released by its original authors, MicroPlanet, it has been kept
alive on the Internet. (The MicroPlanet Gravity newsreader project lives here at
Sourceforge http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/.) After a 10-year hiatus (it was >last updated in 2010), I (Steve) decided to pick it up and keep it current. So,
GRC now offers the only still-working version of Gravity. I am independently >maintaining the source and have published a signed executable and installer. >You can find it here:
File stats for: Gravity Setup (v3.0.11)
file download https://www.grc.com/files/GravitySetup.zip

(GravitySetup.zip / 7.41 MB), extracted . . .
( / 7.57 MB / 3 Files, 0 Folders; "Gravity-v3.0.11-Setup.msi"), installed . . . ( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 4.16 MB / 13 Files, 2 Folders) >File stats for: Gravity Update (v3.0.11)

file download https://www.grc.com/files/Gravity.exe

(Gravity.exe / 0.98 MB), . . .
[end quoted excerpt]

i've tested MicroPlanet Gravity in Windows 7 and 11, and it works great; (40tude Dialog also works fine, but alas it is much older "abandonware")

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 21.07.2024 um 15:57 Uhr Samuel Söderberg wrote:

Thunderbird, Pan, Agent, Newsbin, Unison, Hogwasher, Usenapp.

Mail integration that you can not hide, no dark theme, stuck in the
dial up-era á la press enter/double click to retrieve messages, etc.

IIRC Thunderbird supports a dark theme if the system theme is dark too.
Which OS and theme do you use?

--
kind regards
Marco

Send spam to 1721570258muell@cartoonies.org

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

After serious thinking Samuel Söderberg wrote :

Thunderbird, Pan, Agent, Newsbin, Unison, Hogwasher, Usenapp

MesNews is not in the list

--
/-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ T /-\
-=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- - -=-
........... [ al lavoro ] ...........

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 11:18:12 +0200, Ammammata wrote:

Thunderbird, Pan, Agent, Newsbin, Unison, Hogwasher, Usenapp

MesNews is not in the list

Neither is Xnews, MicroPlanet Gravity and then there's that German (?) newsreader which name I forgot.

--
s|b

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 13:17:02 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

Note that the OP is a Mac user (yay!)

Doesn't mean he can't run software for Windows.

--
s|b

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Sn!pe wrote:

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 13:17:02 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

Note that the OP is a Mac user (yay!)

Doesn't mean he can't run software for Windows.

Why on Earth would a Mac user want to run 'Doze progs?

Sn!pe must be living in a different world to Apple itself.
Here is what Apple says:

<https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/bootcamp-assistant/welcome/mac>
QUOTE:

Use Windows apps on your Mac

Is your favorite MMORPG available only for
Windows? Do you have all your financial data
in a Windows-only accounting app? Need to
test webpages in Windows? No problem - just
install Windows on your Intel-based Mac with
Boot Camp.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

[Late response due to extended absence.]

On July 21, Samuel Söderberg <samuel@samuelsoderberg.se> wrote:

I have tried a few different readers now, and none of them really clicked.

Usenet could perhaps be enhanced if I could only find the one...

Thunderbird, Pan, Agent, Newsbin, Unison, Hogwasher, Usenapp.

Mail integration that you can not hide, no dark theme, stuck in the dial up-era á la press enter/double click to retrieve messages, etc.

I have not bothered with the text-based clients.

Perhaps you should have.

For example in my newsreader (tin), I can page through unread articles
with only <tab> and <space>. My hand rests on the keyboard and my
pointing finger rests on <tab> and my thumb on <space>. No hand movement needed, just pressing the keys under my resting fingers.

No need for <enter> or double-clicks. A "mouse"? What's *that*!? :-)

Hm.

Usenapp.

They could rename it to something cool.

It costs money, but it is for macOS. :)

tin is free, but if you want, you can pay for my advice! :-)

tin, The Ideal Newsreader

Okay, you are it!

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:

On 21.07.2024 um 15:57 Uhr Samuel Söderberg wrote:

Thunderbird, Pan, Agent, Newsbin, Unison, Hogwasher, Usenapp.

Mail integration that you can not hide, no dark theme, stuck in the
dial up-era á la press enter/double click to retrieve messages, etc.

IIRC Thunderbird supports a dark theme if the system theme is dark too.

Thunderbird is a piece of crap.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Samuel Söderberg <samuel@samuelsoderberg.se> writes:

I have tried a few different readers now, and none of them really clicked.

Usenet could perhaps be enhanced if I could only find the one...

Thunderbird, Pan, Agent, Newsbin, Unison, Hogwasher, Usenapp.

Mail integration that you can not hide, no dark theme, stuck in the dial up-era á la press enter/double click to retrieve messages, etc.

I have not bothered with the text-based clients.

Hm.

Usenapp.

They could rename it to something cool.

It costs money, but it is for macOS. :)

Okay, you are it!

Did you check this?

https://maccafe.fr/en

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 10 Oct 2024 at 23:03:10 CEST, "Schlomo Goldberg" <schlomo.goldberg@mailinator.com> wrote:

Did you check this?

https://maccafe.fr/en

I had not!

It is from another era, by the looks of it, and I am happy with Usenapp now.

Thank you anyway!

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Samuel Söderberg wrote:

Did you check this?

https://maccafe.fr/en

I had not!

It is from another era, by the looks of it, and I am happy with Usenapp now.

Originally, MacCafé was aimed primarily at former MacSOUP users, hence
its old-fashioned interface. However, it now offers many features not
found in MacSOUP, some of which I've never seen in any other newsreader.

I had the opportunity to test the very first version of Usenapp, which
looked very promising. In my opinion, the main drawback of this
newsreader is that it's not free.

--
Denis
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
MacCafé - Newsreader for macOS
<https://maccafe.fr/en>

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 23 Oct 2024 at 11:34:40 CEST, "DV" <dv@reply-to.not.invalid> wrote:

Originally, MacCafé was aimed primarily at former MacSOUP users, hence
its old-fashioned interface. However, it now offers many features not
found in MacSOUP, some of which I've never seen in any other newsreader.

I do not know if the incentives are there, but it would be great if MacCafé was installable with Homebrew!

I had the opportunity to test the very first version of Usenapp, which
looked very promising. In my opinion, the main drawback of this
newsreader is that it's not free.

Yes, absolutely yes.

macOS software...

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Sn!pe wrote:

Why on Earth would a Mac user want to run 'Doze progs?

I have several Windows programs installed on my Mac (via Wine or in a
virtual machine), mainly newsreaders. As a beta tester of a newsreader
for macOS, I often need to know how an article posted with it looks in
other news clients, like MesNews or 40Tude Dialog.

--
Denis
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
MacCafé - Newsreader for macOS
<https://maccafe.fr/en>

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 24 Oct 2024 at 08:44:32 CEST, "DV" <dv@reply-to.not.invalid> wrote:

Samuel Söderberg wrote:

I do not know if the incentives are there, but it would be great if MacCafé >> was installable with Homebrew!

As far as I know, Homebrew is intended for programs that cannot be
installed directly under macOS, which is not the case with MacCafé. So
what would be the point of this type of installation?

No, it is a package manager that contains everything that is not in the App Store.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 21 Jul 2024 at 18:46:06 CEST, "D" <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:

the best freeware newsreaders are 40tude Dialog and MicroPlanet Gravity;
both are full-featured, user-friendly, and fairly easy to setup and use, especially MicroPlanet Gravity which is also more up-to-date (2021-5-2):

I tried MicroPlanet Gravity on my Windows laptop that I use for programming, however I could not post:

441 Invalid syntax encountered in From header field body (unexpected byte or empty content line)

I checked and the "From"-field does have my information in it.

Also, the application does not seem to sort by date automatically, and I find myself having to click on the "Date"-column a few times, and scroll, to have
it sorted the right way. :)

Probably a setting somewhere.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Samuel Söderberg <samuel@samuelsoderberg.se> writes:

On 21 Jul 2024 at 18:46:06 CEST, "D" <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:

the best freeware newsreaders are 40tude Dialog and MicroPlanet Gravity;
both are full-featured, user-friendly, and fairly easy to setup and use,
especially MicroPlanet Gravity which is also more up-to-date (2021-5-2):

I tried MicroPlanet Gravity on my Windows laptop that I use for programming, however I could not post:

441 Invalid syntax encountered in From header field body (unexpected byte or empty content line)

I checked and the "From"-field does have my information in it.

It probably does not support Unicode (or anything except ASCII) and is
having issues with letter 'ö' in 'Söderberg'.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

DV <dv@reply-to.not.invalid> writes:

Samuel Söderberg wrote:

I do not know if the incentives are there, but it would be great if MacCafé >> was installable with Homebrew!

As far as I know, Homebrew is intended for programs that cannot be
installed directly under macOS, which is not the case with MacCafé. So
what would be the point of this type of installation?

I would agree. It probably would make more sense to make MacCafé
available via App Store. Currently, if you search for "Usenet" in App
Store on OS X, you'll only get Hogwasher and NGroup (which is the
weirders newsreader I ever saw).

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)