On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 13:22:56 +0100, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
snip

The other is eternal-september and

there're at least a dozen free newservers most that allow posting, but
some servers have better and longer article retention than others, e.g.

news.blueworldhosting.com
nntp.csiph.com
paganini.bofh.team
freenews.netfront.net

this website links to an extensive list of popular news readers, which
seems to include everything except "xananews" (i prefer 40tude dialog):

(using Tor Browser 14.5.3)
https://maccafe.fr/serveurs_en.html

A list of free newsreaders:
Denis (DV) web page
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html
1.Introduction
2.Newsreaders
40Tude Dialog (Windows)
Betterbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Claws-Mail (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Evolution (Linux)
flnews (Linux, UNIX systems)
Gnus (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Gravity (Windows)
MacCafe (macOS)
MacSOUP (macOS = 10.14)
MesNews (Windows)
ModNewsreader (Android and its forks)
Pan (Linux)
SeaMonkey (Linux / Windows / macOS)
slrn (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Sylpheed (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Thunderbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
tin (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Xnews (Windows)
3.References and useful links

[end quote]

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On 2025-06-05 10:48 a.m., D wrote:

On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 13:22:56 +0100, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
snip

The other is eternal-september and

there're at least a dozen free newservers most that allow posting, but
some servers have better and longer article retention than others, e.g.

news.blueworldhosting.com
nntp.csiph.com
paganini.bofh.team
freenews.netfront.net

this website links to an extensive list of popular news readers, which
seems to include everything except "xananews" (i prefer 40tude dialog):

(using Tor Browser 14.5.3)
https://maccafe.fr/serveurs_en.html

A list of free newsreaders:
Denis (DV) web page
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html
1.Introduction
2.Newsreaders
40Tude Dialog (Windows)
Betterbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Claws-Mail (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Evolution (Linux)
flnews (Linux, UNIX systems)
Gnus (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Gravity (Windows)
MacCafe (macOS)
MacSOUP (macOS = 10.14)
MesNews (Windows)
ModNewsreader (Android and its forks)
Pan (Linux)
SeaMonkey (Linux / Windows / macOS)
slrn (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Sylpheed (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Thunderbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
tin (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Xnews (Windows)
3.References and useful links

[end quote]

Are you or anyone else able to access news groups from Thunderbird 139+ on
Windows 10? I've used Thunderbird over the years, but for the life of me I
can't find how to actually view the newsgroups after I configure a news
server account. I don't see the newsgroups icon on the left hand nav/tool
bar. Is there some special trick or other method you are supposed to use to
access this?

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On 2025-06-23 11:27 p.m., D wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 01:44:25 GMT, LV-426 <noreply@noreply.com> wrote:

On 2025-06-05 10:48?a.m., D wrote:

snip

there're at least a dozen free newservers most that allow posting, but >>>some servers have better and longer article retention than others, e.g.

news.blueworldhosting.com
nntp.csiph.com
paganini.bofh.team
freenews.netfront.net

this website links to an extensive list of popular news readers, which >>>seems to include everything except "xananews" (i prefer 40tude dialog):

(using Tor Browser 14.5.3)
https://maccafe.fr/serveurs_en.html

A list of free newsreaders:
Denis (DV) web page
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html
1.Introduction
2.Newsreaders
40Tude Dialog (Windows)
Betterbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Claws-Mail (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Evolution (Linux)
flnews (Linux, UNIX systems)
Gnus (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Gravity (Windows)
MacCafe (macOS)
MacSOUP (macOS = 10.14)
MesNews (Windows)
ModNewsreader (Android and its forks)
Pan (Linux)
SeaMonkey (Linux / Windows / macOS)
slrn (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Sylpheed (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Thunderbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
tin (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Xnews (Windows)
3.References and useful links

[end quote]

Are you or anyone else able to access news groups from Thunderbird 139+ on
Windows 10? I've used Thunderbird over the years, but for the life of me I >> can't find how to actually view the newsgroups after I configure a news
server account. I don't see the newsgroups icon on the left hand nav/tool
bar. Is there some special trick or other method you are supposed to use to >> access this?

i tested t-bird/b-bird about three years ago and found them more complicated >than i could make use of (still preferring classic newsreaders 40tude dialog >for reading, and the very old free agent for posting) . . . recommend asking >t-bird questions in news:alt.comp.software.thunderbird which newsgroup (also >news:alt.comp.os.windows-10 and news:alt.comp.os.windows-11) i've subscribed >to for years, but every active newsgroup seems to be overrun (mostly, anyway) >with troll-bot twattle ... even so, usenet has survived three decades of the >pesky hobgoblins, and sometimes genuine (non-robot) contributors are helpful

Thanks a lot, I'll check that ng. I still have my install of Xnews, which
continues to work flawlessly on Windows. But it would be nice to be able to
make use of Thunderbird as well.

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On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 01:44:25 GMT, LV-426 <noreply@noreply.com> wrote:

On 2025-06-05 10:48?a.m., D wrote:

snip

there're at least a dozen free newservers most that allow posting, but
some servers have better and longer article retention than others, e.g.

news.blueworldhosting.com
nntp.csiph.com
paganini.bofh.team
freenews.netfront.net

this website links to an extensive list of popular news readers, which >>seems to include everything except "xananews" (i prefer 40tude dialog):

(using Tor Browser 14.5.3)
https://maccafe.fr/serveurs_en.html

A list of free newsreaders:
Denis (DV) web page
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html
1.Introduction
2.Newsreaders
40Tude Dialog (Windows)
Betterbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Claws-Mail (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Evolution (Linux)
flnews (Linux, UNIX systems)
Gnus (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Gravity (Windows)
MacCafe (macOS)
MacSOUP (macOS = 10.14)
MesNews (Windows)
ModNewsreader (Android and its forks)
Pan (Linux)
SeaMonkey (Linux / Windows / macOS)
slrn (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Sylpheed (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Thunderbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
tin (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Xnews (Windows)
3.References and useful links

[end quote]

Are you or anyone else able to access news groups from Thunderbird 139+ on
Windows 10? I've used Thunderbird over the years, but for the life of me I can't find how to actually view the newsgroups after I configure a news server account. I don't see the newsgroups icon on the left hand nav/tool bar. Is there some special trick or other method you are supposed to use to access this?

i tested t-bird/b-bird about three years ago and found them more complicated than i could make use of (still preferring classic newsreaders 40tude dialog for reading, and the very old free agent for posting) . . . recommend asking t-bird questions in news:alt.comp.software.thunderbird which newsgroup (also news:alt.comp.os.windows-10 and news:alt.comp.os.windows-11) i've subscribed
to for years, but every active newsgroup seems to be overrun (mostly, anyway) with troll-bot twattle ... even so, usenet has survived three decades of the pesky hobgoblins, and sometimes genuine (non-robot) contributors are helpful

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LV-426 wrote:

Are you or anyone else able to access news groups from Thunderbird 139+ on
Windows 10? I've used Thunderbird over the years, but for the life of me I
can't find how to actually view the newsgroups after I configure a news
server account. I don't see the newsgroups icon on the left hand nav/tool
bar. Is there some special trick or other method you are supposed to use to
access this?

The last section of this tutorial explains how to subscribe to
newsgroups:

<https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/How_to_access_uk-d-i-y_on_Eternal_September_using_Thunderbird>

Once you've subscribed to some groups, they'll appear in the left
sidebar as folders in your news account.

--
Denis
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
MacCafé - Newsreader for macOS
<https://maccafe.fr/en>

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On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 03:59:44 GMT, LV-426 <noreply@noreply.com> wrote:

On 2025-06-23 11:27?p.m., D wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 01:44:25 GMT, LV-426 <noreply@noreply.com> wrote:

On 2025-06-05 10:48?a.m., D wrote:

snip

there're at least a dozen free newservers most that allow posting, but >>>>some servers have better and longer article retention than others, e.g. >>>> news.blueworldhosting.com
nntp.csiph.com
paganini.bofh.team
freenews.netfront.net
this website links to an extensive list of popular news readers, which >>>>seems to include everything except "xananews" (i prefer 40tude dialog): snips

http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html
1.Introduction
2.Newsreaders
40Tude Dialog (Windows)
Betterbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Claws-Mail (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Evolution (Linux)
flnews (Linux, UNIX systems)
Gnus (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Gravity (Windows)
MacCafe (macOS)
MacSOUP (macOS = 10.14)
MesNews (Windows)
ModNewsreader (Android and its forks)
Pan (Linux)
SeaMonkey (Linux / Windows / macOS)
slrn (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Sylpheed (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Thunderbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
tin (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Xnews (Windows)

Are you or anyone else able to access news groups from Thunderbird 139+ on >>> Windows 10? I've used Thunderbird over the years, but for the life of me I >>> can't find how to actually view the newsgroups after I configure a news
server account. I don't see the newsgroups icon on the left hand nav/tool >>> bar. Is there some special trick or other method you are supposed to use to >>> access this?

i tested t-bird/b-bird about three years ago and found them more complicated >>than i could make use of (still preferring classic newsreaders 40tude dialog >>for reading, and the very old free agent for posting) . . . recommend asking >>t-bird questions in news:alt.comp.software.thunderbird which newsgroup (also >>news:alt.comp.os.windows-10 and news:alt.comp.os.windows-11) i've subscribed >>to for years, but every active newsgroup seems to be overrun (mostly, anyway) >>with troll-bot twattle ... even so, usenet has survived three decades of the >>pesky hobgoblins, and sometimes genuine (non-robot) contributors are helpful

Thanks a lot, I'll check that ng. I still have my install of Xnews, which
continues to work flawlessly on Windows. But it would be nice to be able to make use of Thunderbird as well.

yes, and good luck with using t-bird (mozilla thunderbird is probably the
most popular usenet newsreader in the world today) . . . i used xnews for several years before switching to 40tude almost twenty years ago (i liked
xnews for many reasons, slrn-style scoring, etc., but non-ascii character
sets wouldn't display, and 40tude always had the best features especially
for scoring) . . . sometimes legacy freeware (unmaintained, abandoned) is
nice since it doesn't get nagging updates (which mozilla is notorious for)

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On 2025-06-24, LV-426 <noreply@noreply.com> wrote:

+++

Are you or anyone else able to access news groups from Thunderbird 139+ on
Windows 10?

Don't use Windows 10. Don't use Windows (any version). Thank me later.

+++

--
Ingrate, n.:
A man who bites the hand that feeds him, and then complains of
indigestion.

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On 2025-06-24 9:02 a.m., D wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 03:59:44 GMT, LV-426 <noreply@noreply.com> wrote:

On 2025-06-23 11:27?p.m., D wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 01:44:25 GMT, LV-426 <noreply@noreply.com> wrote:

On 2025-06-05 10:48?a.m., D wrote:

snip

there're at least a dozen free newservers most that allow posting, but >>>>>some servers have better and longer article retention than others, e.g. >>>>> news.blueworldhosting.com
nntp.csiph.com
paganini.bofh.team
freenews.netfront.net
this website links to an extensive list of popular news readers, which >>>>>seems to include everything except "xananews" (i prefer 40tude dialog): >snips

http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html
1.Introduction
2.Newsreaders
40Tude Dialog (Windows)
Betterbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Claws-Mail (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Evolution (Linux)
flnews (Linux, UNIX systems)
Gnus (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Gravity (Windows)
MacCafe (macOS)
MacSOUP (macOS = 10.14)
MesNews (Windows)
ModNewsreader (Android and its forks)
Pan (Linux)
SeaMonkey (Linux / Windows / macOS)
slrn (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Sylpheed (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Thunderbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
tin (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Xnews (Windows)

Are you or anyone else able to access news groups from Thunderbird 139+ on >>>> Windows 10? I've used Thunderbird over the years, but for the life of me I >>>> can't find how to actually view the newsgroups after I configure a news >>>> server account. I don't see the newsgroups icon on the left hand nav/tool >>>> bar. Is there some special trick or other method you are supposed to use to
access this?

i tested t-bird/b-bird about three years ago and found them more complicated >>>than i could make use of (still preferring classic newsreaders 40tude dialog >>>for reading, and the very old free agent for posting) . . . recommend asking >>>t-bird questions in news:alt.comp.software.thunderbird which newsgroup (also >>>news:alt.comp.os.windows-10 and news:alt.comp.os.windows-11) i've subscribed >>>to for years, but every active newsgroup seems to be overrun (mostly, anyway)
with troll-bot twattle ... even so, usenet has survived three decades of the >>>pesky hobgoblins, and sometimes genuine (non-robot) contributors are helpful >>

Thanks a lot, I'll check that ng. I still have my install of Xnews, which
continues to work flawlessly on Windows. But it would be nice to be able to >> make use of Thunderbird as well.

yes, and good luck with using t-bird (mozilla thunderbird is probably the >most popular usenet newsreader in the world today) . . . i used xnews for >several years before switching to 40tude almost twenty years ago (i liked >xnews for many reasons, slrn-style scoring, etc., but non-ascii character >sets wouldn't display, and 40tude always had the best features especially
for scoring) . . . sometimes legacy freeware (unmaintained, abandoned) is >nice since it doesn't get nagging updates (which mozilla is notorious for)

Yeah I love some of the old legacy software. I've not heard of 40tude but
will also check that out. I remember using Newsreader/2 on OS/2 Warp many a
years ago, and I also enjoyed that at the time. Interestingly, the old
Outlook Express had fairly good newsgroup features built in. I used to use
that often as well.

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On 2025-06-24 1:21 a.m., DV wrote:

LV-426 wrote:

Are you or anyone else able to access news groups from Thunderbird 139+ on >> Windows 10? I've used Thunderbird over the years, but for the life of me I >> can't find how to actually view the newsgroups after I configure a news
server account. I don't see the newsgroups icon on the left hand nav/tool >> bar. Is there some special trick or other method you are supposed to use to >> access this?

The last section of this tutorial explains how to subscribe to
newsgroups:

<https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/How_to_access_uk-d-i-y_on_Eternal_September_using_Thunderbird>

Once you've subscribed to some groups, they'll appear in the left
sidebar as folders in your news account.

Thanks a lot for the link and suggestion. But this is the exact problem --
regardless of whether I add a newsgroup account, I don't see its respective
icon populate on the left hand panel. So there is nothing for me to "right
click" on to select settings or anything that would facilitate subscribing
to any newsgroups.

I already set up 2 separate newsgroup accounts which I have access to, and
they don't show on the left hand panel.

From what I'm seeing, it really looks like some sort of bug in the current
version of Thunderbird that I have installed. It's either that, or there's
some crazy alternate procedure that is seemingly unintuitive.

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