I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
That limits crossposting?
Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
80 characters or less?
Drafts don't stick around.
I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
That limits crossposting?
dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
That limits crossposting?
Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
80 characters or less?
Drafts don't stick around.
Look at a very long header line in the article you just posted.
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-
host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345";
logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-
september.org"; posting-
account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
The continuation lines just start with a whitespace character.
The newsreader will figure it out without intervention.
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:42:39 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
That limits crossposting?
Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
80 characters or less?
Drafts don't stick around.
Look at a very long header line in the article you just posted.
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-
host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345";
logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-
september.org"; posting-
account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
The continuation lines just start with a whitespace character.
The newsreader will figure it out without intervention.
That's actually one continuous line in the raw article's headers.
*Your* newsreader added the whitespace for legibility at your end.
And that line was added by the server, not the news reader/client.
. . .
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:42:39 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
That limits crossposting?
Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are >>>>80 characters or less?
Drafts don't stick around.
Look at a very long header line in the article you just posted.
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-
host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345";
logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal- >>> september.org"; posting-
account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
The continuation lines just start with a whitespace character.
The newsreader will figure it out without intervention.
That's actually one continuous line in the raw article's headers.
*Your* newsreader added the whitespace for legibility at your end.
And that line was added by the server, not the news reader/client.
I looked at the text. I see a continuation line beginning with a tab character.
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345"; logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:45:00 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:posting-host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345"; logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:42:39 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
That limits crossposting?
Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are >>>>80 characters or less?
Drafts don't stick around.
Look at a very long header line in the article you just posted.
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-
host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345";
logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal- >>> september.org"; posting-
account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
The continuation lines just start with a whitespace character.
The newsreader will figure it out without intervention.
That's actually one continuous line in the raw article's headers.
*Your* newsreader added the whitespace for legibility at your end.
And that line was added by the server, not the news reader/client.
I looked at the text. I see a continuation line beginning with a tab character.
No the line looks exactly like this: (without the ">").
Injection-Info: dont-email.me;
But of course your newsreader probably just reformatted that,
too). There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.
And it was added by the news server *after* Agent sent it.
-sw
There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 01:39:26 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.
The spec [1] says something different, that CRLF can be inserted before
a whitespace to allow a logical header line to exceed the 998/78
character limitations per physical line.
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 21:30:18 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 01:39:26 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.
The spec [1] says something different, that CRLF can be inserted before
a whitespace to allow a logical header line to exceed the 998/78
character limitations per physical line.
But that's NOT how the header he was referencing was formatted.
And you knew that, too.
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 04:24:23 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 21:30:18 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 01:39:26 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.
The spec [1] says something different, that CRLF can be inserted before
a whitespace to allow a logical header line to exceed the 998/78
character limitations per physical line.
But that's NOT how the header he was referencing was formatted.
And you knew that, too.
The physical header Adam was referring to WAS formatted as Adam described. With a CRLF followed by a tab character.
Screen-shot: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=26_xm23wc4fq79h__folded-header-line.gif>
Path: not-for-mail
From: Richard <legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Agent?
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 20:08:56 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: multi-cellular, biological
Sender: legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com
Message-ID: <u3bkso$3de9g$1@news.xmission.com>
References: <vie93i9c0r63bv36e89g79o5o588mi98b1@4ax.com> <u12kve$2ggkj$1@dont-email.me> <19slgf5n22f92$.dlg@sqwertz.com>
Reply-To: (Richard) legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0"
Injection-Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 20:08:56 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: news.xmission.com; posting-host="shell.xmission.com:2607:fa18:0:beef::4"; logging-data="3586352"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@xmission.com"
X-Reply-Etiquette: No copy by email, please
Mail-Copies-To: never
Content-ID: <695119.1683576408.0@shell.xmission.com>
X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)
Originator: legalize@shell.xmission.com (Richard)
X-Received-Bytes: 4856
On Mon, 01 May 2023 06:47:20 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:
The physical header Adam was referring to WAS formatted as Adam described. >> With a CRLF followed by a tab character.
Screen-shot: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=26_xm23wc4fq79h__folded-header-line.gif>
No, it's not. The raw data from my news server does not include a
CR-LF-TAB. And I seriously doubt your news server or an
intermediary reformatted it. Or that my news server reformatted
it just to make a fool of me. (On second thought, hmmm...)
See?
And what was the purpose of this contradictory hoopla?
[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> spake the secret code <23pxu201fzj7$.dlg@sqwertz.com> thusly:
See?
And what was the purpose of this contradictory hoopla?
You stated that there was no CRLF continuation line in the header, but
there was. The raw log dump was removing the possibility that it was
being reflowed/reformatted by my news reader.
As has been pointed out by others in this thread, the article contains
a continuation line (CRLF followed by whitespace) on many servers. I
suppose it's possible that one server could remove the fold and store
it as one single physical line, although I don't see why this would be
of any benefit as there are still physical line length limits
specified in the RFC for usenet messages (which is why continuation
lines are allowed in the first place).
The suggested physical line length limitation is there to allow
processing software to use fixed-length buffers for a line and not
have to dynamically resize the buffers during processing.
On Thu, 11 May 2023 18:56:20 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
On Mon, 01 May 2023 06:47:20 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:
The physical header Adam was referring to WAS formatted as Adam described. >>> With a CRLF followed by a tab character.
Screen-shot: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=26_xm23wc4fq79h__folded-header-line.gif>
No, it's not. The raw data from my news server does not include a
CR-LF-TAB. And I seriously doubt your news server or an
intermediary reformatted it. Or that my news server reformatted
it just to make a fool of me. (On second thought, hmmm...)
Here is the log from PuTTY connected to news.neodome.net port 119.
I do not use neodome normally.
But I could reproduce this with neodome and no login. So you can too.
| =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= PuTTY log 2023.05.13 19:55:59 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
| 200 news.neodome.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.3 ready (posting ok) >| GROUP news.software.readers
| 211 889 1536 2425 news.software.readers
| ARTICLE <vie93i9c0r63bv36e89g79o5o588mi98b1@4ax.com>
| 220 0 <vie93i9c0r63bv36e89g79o5o588mi98b1@4ax.com> article
| Path: news.neodome.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
| From: dale <dale@dalekelly.org>
| Newsgroups: news.software.readers
| Subject: Agent?
| Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 21:43:34 -0400
| Organization: https://www.dalekelly.org
| Lines: 9
| Message-ID: <vie93i9c0r63bv36e89g79o5o588mi98b1@4ax.com>
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345";
| logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
| User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
| Cancel-Lock: sha1:SgxCtKWqwCvbx/pmQybsATBRi4w=
| Xref: news.neodome.net news.software.readers:2362
|
| I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
|
| That limits crossposting?
|
| Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
| 80 characters or less?
|
| Drafts don't stick around.
|
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