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    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 9 00:55:30 2024
    XPost: nz.politics

    From someone who knows. https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1744013465071591804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1744013465071591804%7Ctwgr%5E110c9518222691641880f9e5695b5055f7caaccf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Tue Jan 9 04:08:32 2024
    On 2024-01-09, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    From someone who knows. https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1744013465071591804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1744013465071591804%7Ctwgr%5E110c9518222691641880f9e5695b5055f7caaccf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F

    The full lecture at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Z5FdwWw_c is well
    worth listening to if one has the time. Note this was back in 2015.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Gordon on Tue Jan 9 04:16:12 2024
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2024-01-09, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    From someone who knows.
    https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1744013465071591804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1744013465071591804%7Ctwgr%5E110c9518222691641880f9e5695b5055f7caaccf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F

    The full lecture at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Z5FdwWw_c is well
    worth listening to if one has the time. Note this was back in 2015.
    Yes it is worthwhile, the elapsed time has not changed the science so his opinions are valid today.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Wed Jan 10 08:11:53 2024
    On 9 Jan 2024 04:08:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-01-09, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    From someone who knows.
    https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1744013465071591804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1744013465071591804%7Ctwgr%5E110c9518222691641880f9e5695b5055f7caaccf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F

    The full lecture at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Z5FdwWw_c is well
    worth listening to if one has the time. Note this was back in 2015.

    An interesting man with quite a history. A quick search gave this: https://www.desmog.com/patrick-moore/

    Do you agree with him that glysophate is safe to drink?

    Look further down for his views on Trump's actions re the attack on
    Congress, and how he did not believe Covid modeling . . .

    It appears that the "someone who knows" was not Tony, or Patrick
    Moore . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Tue Jan 9 21:11:20 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 9 Jan 2024 04:08:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-01-09, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    From someone who knows.
    https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1744013465071591804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1744013465071591804%7Ctwgr%5E110c9518222691641880f9e5695b5055f7caaccf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F

    The full lecture at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Z5FdwWw_c is well >>worth listening to if one has the time. Note this was back in 2015.

    An interesting man with quite a history. A quick search gave this: >https://www.desmog.com/patrick-moore/

    Do you agree with him that glysophate is safe to drink?

    Look further down for his views on Trump's actions re the attack on
    Congress, and how he did not believe Covid modeling . . .
    You are a buffoon.
    Once more you cannot address the content because it is beyondd your intellect to do so and therefore you attack the person.
    We, that is everyone but you, know that is the refuge of idiots.

    It appears that the "someone who knows" was not Tony, or Patrick
    Moore . . .
    Patrick Moore knows quite a lot as do I, you know fuck all.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 10 01:59:38 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 21:11:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 9 Jan 2024 04:08:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-01-09, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    From someone who knows.
    https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1744013465071591804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1744013465071591804%7Ctwgr%5E110c9518222691641880f9e5695b5055f7caaccf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F

    The full lecture at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Z5FdwWw_c is well >>>>worth listening to if one has the time. Note this was back in 2015.

    An interesting man with quite a history. A quick search gave this: >>>https://www.desmog.com/patrick-moore/

    Do you agree with him that glysophate is safe to drink?
    You missed this one, Tony - from the article:

    “After the World Health Organization released a study concluding that >glyphosate, the active ingredient in Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide, is >“probably carcinogenic,”20 Pat Moore told a French filmmaker that
    glyphosate is safe to drink.21
    Upon being offered some glyphosate to try, Moore refused to take up
    his own suggestion, ending the interview and telling the filmmaker,
    “I’m not an idiot.” Video below.22 ”
    https://youtu.be/ovKw6YjqSfM

    So do you agree with Moore that glysophate is safe to drink?
    I missed nothing. You missed the fact (yes a fact) that you hva enot addressed anything he said. You simply, as usual when you have nothing to say, attacked the author. Shame on you as, but I am sure you are used to that.

    Look further down for his views on Trump's actions re the attack on >>>Congress, and how he did not believe Covid modeling . . .
    You are a buffoon.
    Once more you cannot address the content because it is beyondd your intellect >>to do so and therefore you attack the person.

    No, I have attacked what he is reported as saying. I have for example
    not called him a buffoon - that sort of slur tends to be use by those
    that are easily confused and have a very limited understanding of
    science, or that money may affect what some are prepared to say . . .
    No you have ignored the content and attacked the authjor - that is all you have - zero.

    You want a bit of content? How about this which you appear ot have
    missed:

    “Although Moore worked with Greenpeace Canada and Greenpeace
    International between 1981 and 1986, he broke away from the
    organisation after he concluded that “the environmental movement had >abandoned science and logic in favor of emotion and sensationalism.” >According to Greenpeace, “what Moore really saw was an opportunity for >financial gain. Since then he has gone from defender of the planet to
    a paid representative of corporate polluters.”11 12
    See above - address the content of the original areticle or fuck off.

    More personal attacks removed.

    Address the content you coward.




    It appears that the "someone who knows" was not Tony, or Patrick
    Moore . . .
    Patrick Moore knows quite a lot as do I, you know fuck all.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Wed Jan 10 14:54:19 2024
    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 21:11:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 9 Jan 2024 04:08:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-01-09, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    From someone who knows.
    https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1744013465071591804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1744013465071591804%7Ctwgr%5E110c9518222691641880f9e5695b5055f7caaccf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F

    The full lecture at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Z5FdwWw_c is well >>>worth listening to if one has the time. Note this was back in 2015.

    An interesting man with quite a history. A quick search gave this: >>https://www.desmog.com/patrick-moore/

    Do you agree with him that glysophate is safe to drink?
    You missed this one, Tony - from the article:

    “After the World Health Organization released a study concluding that glyphosate, the active ingredient in Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide, is
    “probably carcinogenic,”20 Pat Moore told a French filmmaker that
    glyphosate is safe to drink.21
    Upon being offered some glyphosate to try, Moore refused to take up
    his own suggestion, ending the interview and telling the filmmaker,
    “I’m not an idiot.” Video below.22 ”
    https://youtu.be/ovKw6YjqSfM

    So do you agree with Moore that glysophate is safe to drink?

    Look further down for his views on Trump's actions re the attack on >>Congress, and how he did not believe Covid modeling . . .
    You are a buffoon.
    Once more you cannot address the content because it is beyondd your intellect >to do so and therefore you attack the person.

    No, I have attacked what he is reported as saying. I have for example
    not called him a buffoon - that sort of slur tends to be use by those
    that are easily confused and have a very limited understanding of
    science, or that money may affect what some are prepared to say . . .

    You want a bit of content? How about this which you appear ot have
    missed:

    “Although Moore worked with Greenpeace Canada and Greenpeace
    International between 1981 and 1986, he broke away from the
    organisation after he concluded that “the environmental movement had
    abandoned science and logic in favor of emotion and sensationalism.”
    According to Greenpeace, “what Moore really saw was an opportunity for financial gain. Since then he has gone from defender of the planet to
    a paid representative of corporate polluters.”11 12

    After he left Greenpeace, Moore began work with the Nuclear Energy
    Institute front group, the Clean and Safe Energy Coalition
    (CASEnergy).13 Moore stepped down from his leadership role at
    CASEnergy in January 2013,14 however said he would remain an active
    member.15

    Moore has worked for the mining industry, the logging industry, PVC manufacturers, the nuclear industry, and in defense of biotechnology. Greenpeace issued a 2010 statement distancing itself from Moore,
    saying he “exploits long gone ties with Greenpeace to sell himself as
    a speaker and pro-corporate spokesperson, usually taking positions
    that Greenpeace opposes.”16

    Moore has been criticized for his relations with “polluters and
    clear-cutters” through his consultancy. His primary income since the
    early 1990s has been consulting and publicly speaking for a variety of corporations and lobby groups such as the Nuclear Energy Institute.17
    18

    As of 2014, Moore was also listed as a board member of NextEnergy, a
    Canadian energy services company.19 ”





    We, that is everyone but you, know that is the refuge of idiots.

    It appears that the "someone who knows" was not Tony, or Patrick
    Moore . . .
    Patrick Moore knows quite a lot as do I, you know fuck all.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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