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  • Re: The Government hard at work - ?

    From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 25 05:44:16 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    See >https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350157980/nz-first-mp-casey-costello-under-fire-over-cigarette-pricing-document-leak
    and >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/507471/official-documents-suggest-a-nz-first-minister-wants-to-freeze-excise-tax-on-cigarettes-but-she-denies-it
    and >https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/article/undoctored/call-luxon-replace-costello-over-cigarette-tax-freeze

    While National MPs appear to be on holiday still, it seems ACT and NZ
    First MPS have been beavering away - perhaps that "laser focus on the
    cost of living" will start up soon.

    Meantime, the smaller parties are showing the way . . . well, perhaps
    one way; it looks like there are better ways . . .
    What a pathetic post - is that all you have? Thought so!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jan 25 18:47:42 2024
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 05:44:16 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    See >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350157980/nz-first-mp-casey-costello-under-fire-over-cigarette-pricing-document-leak
    and >>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/507471/official-documents-suggest-a-nz-first-minister-wants-to-freeze-excise-tax-on-cigarettes-but-she-denies-it
    and >>https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/article/undoctored/call-luxon-replace-costello-over-cigarette-tax-freeze

    While National MPs appear to be on holiday still, it seems ACT and NZ
    First MPS have been beavering away - perhaps that "laser focus on the
    cost of living" will start up soon.

    Meantime, the smaller parties are showing the way . . . well, perhaps
    one way; it looks like there are better ways . . .
    What a pathetic post - is that all you have? Thought so!

    No, I have posted on a number of issues today, Tony. Do keep up . . .

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 25 05:57:52 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 05:44:16 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    See >>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350157980/nz-first-mp-casey-costello-under-fire-over-cigarette-pricing-document-leak
    and >>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/507471/official-documents-suggest-a-nz-first-minister-wants-to-freeze-excise-tax-on-cigarettes-but-she-denies-it
    and >>>https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/article/undoctored/call-luxon-replace-costello-over-cigarette-tax-freeze

    While National MPs appear to be on holiday still, it seems ACT and NZ >>>First MPS have been beavering away - perhaps that "laser focus on the >>>cost of living" will start up soon.

    Meantime, the smaller parties are showing the way . . . well, perhaps
    one way; it looks like there are better ways . . .
    What a pathetic post - is that all you have? Thought so!

    No, I have posted on a number of issues today, Tony. Do keep up . . .
    I'm way ahead of you - too easy by far.
    OK so your post in this thread was just garbage, well done for saying so.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 25 18:36:06 2024
    See https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350157980/nz-first-mp-casey-costello-under-fire-over-cigarette-pricing-document-leak
    and https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/507471/official-documents-suggest-a-nz-first-minister-wants-to-freeze-excise-tax-on-cigarettes-but-she-denies-it
    and https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/article/undoctored/call-luxon-replace-costello-over-cigarette-tax-freeze

    While National MPs appear to be on holiday still, it seems ACT and NZ
    First MPS have been beavering away - perhaps that "laser focus on the
    cost of living" will start up soon.

    Meantime, the smaller parties are showing the way . . . well, perhaps
    one way; it looks like there are better ways . . .

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jan 25 21:23:13 2024
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 05:57:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 05:44:16 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    See >>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350157980/nz-first-mp-casey-costello-under-fire-over-cigarette-pricing-document-leak
    and >>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/507471/official-documents-suggest-a-nz-first-minister-wants-to-freeze-excise-tax-on-cigarettes-but-she-denies-it
    and >>>>https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/article/undoctored/call-luxon-replace-costello-over-cigarette-tax-freeze

    While National MPs appear to be on holiday still, it seems ACT and NZ >>>>First MPS have been beavering away - perhaps that "laser focus on the >>>>cost of living" will start up soon.

    Meantime, the smaller parties are showing the way . . . well, perhaps >>>>one way; it looks like there are better ways . . .
    What a pathetic post - is that all you have? Thought so!

    No, I have posted on a number of issues today, Tony. Do keep up . . .
    I'm way ahead of you - too easy by far.
    OK so your post in this thread was just garbage, well done for saying so.

    Indeed. good thing you spotted garbage, Tony - it seems Casey Costello
    has beavered away on keeping cigarette prices as low as possible to
    keep sales up - that benefits Dairies and the tobacco companies (but
    provides incentives for Ram Raids), but perhaps also commitments have
    been made to donors to the NZ Taxpayer Union:

    from the third url above: https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/article/undoctored/call-luxon-replace-costello-over-cigarette-tax-freeze

    "Health Coalition Aotearoa is calling for Prime Minister Christopher
    Luxon to replace Associate Minister for Health Casey Costello with
    someone who can restore credibility to the portfolio following news
    she is seeking to freeze excise tax on cigarettes for three years.

    "Casey Costello has lost all credibility as an Associate Minister of
    Health. Everything she has done to date is anti-health - in fact she
    is acting more like a Minister for the Tobacco Industry," HCA co-chair Professor Boyd Swinburn said.

    "The Prime Minister needs to take urgent action to restore credibility
    to this portfolio."

    RNZ’s Guyon Espiner revealed Costello proposed a three-year freeze on inflation-adjusted excise tax increases for smoked tobacco products
    and plans to cut tax from smokeless tobacco products.
    Costello denied she had made this request, despite clear evidence of
    her proposal.

    Espiner’s piece also highlighted NZ First’s strong links to the
    tobacco industry.
    Costello has had recent links to the Tobacco Industry in her work with
    the Taxpayer’s Union - which media reported receives regular donations
    from British American Tobacco.

    She stepped down from her role as chair and board member of the
    Taxpayer’s Union in July 2023, after several years with the
    organisation.

    Freezing excise tax without implementing a reduction in retailers, denicotisation (part of the 2022 Smokefree Amendment Act), and
    increasing the capacity of quit services - all part of the Smokefree
    2025 action plan - will ensure that smoking harm continues to disproportionately affect Maori.

    HCA Smokefree Expert Advisory Group co-chair and recipient of the 2019
    Tariana Turia Award for significant achievement in indigenous tobacco
    control Sue Taylor (Ngati Raukawa, Ngati Kahungunu) said keeping the
    price of cigarettes high was among the most effective and proven ways
    to reduce smoking rates.

    "As someone who has worked in tobacco control for over two decades the
    annual tax increases have always driven smoking declines. Whanau say
    to me all the time, I gave up smoking because it became too
    expensive."

    Taylor said the proposal to stop annual inflation increases on
    cigarettes would help the Tobacco Industry and result in the loss of
    more lives to smoking."
    _______________________

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 25 20:16:19 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 05:57:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 05:44:16 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    See >>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350157980/nz-first-mp-casey-costello-under-fire-over-cigarette-pricing-document-leak
    and >>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/507471/official-documents-suggest-a-nz-first-minister-wants-to-freeze-excise-tax-on-cigarettes-but-she-denies-it
    and >>>>>https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/article/undoctored/call-luxon-replace-costello-over-cigarette-tax-freeze

    While National MPs appear to be on holiday still, it seems ACT and NZ >>>>>First MPS have been beavering away - perhaps that "laser focus on the >>>>>cost of living" will start up soon.

    Meantime, the smaller parties are showing the way . . . well, perhaps >>>>>one way; it looks like there are better ways . . .
    What a pathetic post - is that all you have? Thought so!

    No, I have posted on a number of issues today, Tony. Do keep up . . .
    I'm way ahead of you - too easy by far.
    OK so your post in this thread was just garbage, well done for saying so.

    Sarcasm removed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 27 06:45:41 2024
    And don’t forget that ACT gun lobbyist who wants to see an end to the firearms register.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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