• Interest deduction for Landlords

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 15:45:32 2024
    An interesting argument from the USA: http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/03/gordon-campbell-on-the-us-opposition-to-mortgage-interest-deductibility-for-landlords/

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 30 03:24:32 2024
    On 2024-03-30, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    An interesting argument from the USA: http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/03/gordon-campbell-on-the-us-opposition-to-mortgage-interest-deductibility-for-landlords/

    To not allow mortgage interest deductibility will increase rents and it will also be illocical, as in all other businesses the costs of running the
    business is allows to dedcut its costs to get the taxable income.

    Running a rental agency is a business.

    If you/we/the Government wish to restrain the bad points that are happening
    we need to take action which will pull on the landlords excess profits
    without pushing up the rentals or reducing housing stock for rent.

    Sure it probably needs to be done and it is sure a challenge,

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sat Mar 30 17:43:01 2024
    On 30 Mar 2024 03:24:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-03-30, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    An interesting argument from the USA:
    http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/03/gordon-campbell-on-the-us-opposition-to-mortgage-interest-deductibility-for-landlords/

    To not allow mortgage interest deductibility will increase rents and it will >also be illocical, as in all other businesses the costs of running the >business is allows to dedcut its costs to get the taxable income.

    Running a rental agency is a business.

    If you/we/the Government wish to restrain the bad points that are happening >we need to take action which will pull on the landlords excess profits >without pushing up the rentals or reducing housing stock for rent.

    Sure it probably needs to be done and it is sure a challenge,


    From the article:
    As Bloomberg News summarised the situation:

    "…It is certainly not helping the housing market, first-time
    home-buyers or the federal government’s fiscal health to subsidize the
    debt of high-income households at a steep cost. The US Treasury
    Department estimates the deduction — even at a reduced level with
    fewer claimants — will cost just under $600 billion between 2019-2028.
    There’s many ways that money could be re-purposed to help renters,
    first-time buyers, or even put toward expanding the supply of housing
    — all things the deduction doesn’t help currently."

    We will have to wait to see of course, but can you think of any reason
    why a landlord would lower rents if there are enough people wanting to
    rent at current prices - or even more if there is a shortage?

    I note that quite a few building companies have folded since National
    was elected - have they stopped work on state house building and
    refurbishment that was making good progress over the last three years?

    There may well be a journalist who has already spoken to some of the
    tenants at Christopher Luxon's rental properties to find out when the
    next rent review is due - and waiting to see whether it goes up or
    down . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 30 05:43:09 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2024 03:24:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-03-30, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    An interesting argument from the USA:
    http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/03/gordon-campbell-on-the-us-opposition-to-mortgage-interest-deductibility-for-landlords/

    To not allow mortgage interest deductibility will increase rents and it will >>also be illocical, as in all other businesses the costs of running the >>business is allows to dedcut its costs to get the taxable income.

    Running a rental agency is a business.

    If you/we/the Government wish to restrain the bad points that are happening >>we need to take action which will pull on the landlords excess profits >>without pushing up the rentals or reducing housing stock for rent.

    Sure it probably needs to be done and it is sure a challenge,


    From the article:
    As Bloomberg News summarised the situation:

    "…It is certainly not helping the housing market, first-time
    home-buyers or the federal government’s fiscal health to subsidize the
    debt of high-income households at a steep cost. The US Treasury
    Department estimates the deduction — even at a reduced level with
    fewer claimants — will cost just under $600 billion between 2019-2028. >There’s many ways that money could be re-purposed to help renters,
    first-time buyers, or even put toward expanding the supply of housing
    — all things the deduction doesn’t help currently."

    We will have to wait to see of course, but can you think of any reason
    why a landlord would lower rents if there are enough people wanting to
    rent at current prices - or even more if there is a shortage?

    I note that quite a few building companies have folded since National
    was elected
    Even more went to the wall directly because of the Covid lockdowns and whet followed.
    - have they stopped work on state house building and
    refurbishment that was making good progress over the last three years?
    Have they? Do you have an answer?

    There may well be a journalist who has already spoken to some of the
    tenants at Christopher Luxon's rental properties to find out when the
    next rent review is due - and waiting to see whether it goes up or
    down.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sat Mar 30 21:53:44 2024
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:43:09 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2024 03:24:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-03-30, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    An interesting argument from the USA:
    http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/03/gordon-campbell-on-the-us-opposition-to-mortgage-interest-deductibility-for-landlords/

    To not allow mortgage interest deductibility will increase rents and it will >>>also be illocical, as in all other businesses the costs of running the >>>business is allows to dedcut its costs to get the taxable income.

    Running a rental agency is a business.

    If you/we/the Government wish to restrain the bad points that are happening >>>we need to take action which will pull on the landlords excess profits >>>without pushing up the rentals or reducing housing stock for rent.

    Sure it probably needs to be done and it is sure a challenge,


    From the article:
    As Bloomberg News summarised the situation:

    "…It is certainly not helping the housing market, first-time
    home-buyers or the federal government’s fiscal health to subsidize the
    debt of high-income households at a steep cost. The US Treasury
    Department estimates the deduction — even at a reduced level with
    fewer claimants — will cost just under $600 billion between 2019-2028. >>There’s many ways that money could be re-purposed to help renters, >>first-time buyers, or even put toward expanding the supply of housing
    — all things the deduction doesn’t help currently."

    We will have to wait to see of course, but can you think of any reason
    why a landlord would lower rents if there are enough people wanting to
    rent at current prices - or even more if there is a shortage?

    I note that quite a few building companies have folded since National
    was elected
    Even more went to the wall directly because of the Covid lockdowns and whet >followed.

    Rubbish - relatively few collapsed at that time because there was
    government support. Now with spending stopping from Government in a
    wide range of areas, as well as stoppages in Auckland, and many how
    may have thought of home improvements not battening down spending due
    to anticipating lower incomes and higher living costs, we are seeing
    closures of quite a few building companies. The increased rate of
    closures was on the news recently.





    - have they stopped work on state house building and
    refurbishment that was making good progress over the last three years?
    Have they? Do you have an answer?

    There may well be a journalist who has already spoken to some of the >>tenants at Christopher Luxon's rental properties to find out when the
    next rent review is due - and waiting to see whether it goes up or
    down.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 30 19:31:24 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:43:09 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2024 03:24:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-03-30, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    An interesting argument from the USA:
    http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/03/gordon-campbell-on-the-us-opposition-to-mortgage-interest-deductibility-for-landlords/

    To not allow mortgage interest deductibility will increase rents and it will
    also be illocical, as in all other businesses the costs of running the >>>>business is allows to dedcut its costs to get the taxable income.

    Running a rental agency is a business.

    If you/we/the Government wish to restrain the bad points that are happening >>>>we need to take action which will pull on the landlords excess profits >>>>without pushing up the rentals or reducing housing stock for rent.

    Sure it probably needs to be done and it is sure a challenge,


    From the article:
    As Bloomberg News summarised the situation:

    "…It is certainly not helping the housing market, first-time
    home-buyers or the federal government’s fiscal health to subsidize the >>>debt of high-income households at a steep cost. The US Treasury >>>Department estimates the deduction — even at a reduced level with
    fewer claimants — will cost just under $600 billion between 2019-2028. >>>There’s many ways that money could be re-purposed to help renters, >>>first-time buyers, or even put toward expanding the supply of housing
    — all things the deduction doesn’t help currently."

    We will have to wait to see of course, but can you think of any reason >>>why a landlord would lower rents if there are enough people wanting to >>>rent at current prices - or even more if there is a shortage?

    I note that quite a few building companies have folded since National
    was elected
    Even more went to the wall directly because of the Covid lockdowns and whet >>followed.

    Rubbish - relatively few collapsed at that time because there was
    government support. Now with spending stopping from Government in a
    wide range of areas, as well as stoppages in Auckland, and many how
    may have thought of home improvements not battening down spending due
    to anticipating lower incomes and higher living costs, we are seeing
    closures of quite a few building companies. The increased rate of
    closures was on the news recently.
    Nonsense. Posted with zero evidence as usual. Post some evidence of polich you hairless bonce.




    - have they stopped work on state house building and
    refurbishment that was making good progress over the last three years? >>Have they? Do you have an answer?

    There may well be a journalist who has already spoken to some of the >>>tenants at Christopher Luxon's rental properties to find out when the >>>next rent review is due - and waiting to see whether it goes up or
    down.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Mar 31 15:04:13 2024
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:31:24 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:43:09 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2024 03:24:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-03-30, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    An interesting argument from the USA:
    http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/03/gordon-campbell-on-the-us-opposition-to-mortgage-interest-deductibility-for-landlords/

    To not allow mortgage interest deductibility will increase rents and it will
    also be illocical, as in all other businesses the costs of running the >>>>>business is allows to dedcut its costs to get the taxable income.

    Running a rental agency is a business.

    If you/we/the Government wish to restrain the bad points that are happening
    we need to take action which will pull on the landlords excess profits >>>>>without pushing up the rentals or reducing housing stock for rent.

    Sure it probably needs to be done and it is sure a challenge,


    From the article:
    As Bloomberg News summarised the situation:

    "…It is certainly not helping the housing market, first-time >>>>home-buyers or the federal government’s fiscal health to subsidize the >>>>debt of high-income households at a steep cost. The US Treasury >>>>Department estimates the deduction — even at a reduced level with
    fewer claimants — will cost just under $600 billion between 2019-2028. >>>>There’s many ways that money could be re-purposed to help renters, >>>>first-time buyers, or even put toward expanding the supply of housing
    — all things the deduction doesn’t help currently."

    We will have to wait to see of course, but can you think of any reason >>>>why a landlord would lower rents if there are enough people wanting to >>>>rent at current prices - or even more if there is a shortage?

    I note that quite a few building companies have folded since National >>>>was elected
    Even more went to the wall directly because of the Covid lockdowns and whet >>>followed.

    Rubbish - relatively few collapsed at that time because there was >>government support. Now with spending stopping from Government in a
    wide range of areas, as well as stoppages in Auckland, and many how
    may have thought of home improvements not battening down spending due
    to anticipating lower incomes and higher living costs, we are seeing >>closures of quite a few building companies. The increased rate of
    closures was on the news recently.
    Nonsense. Posted with zero evidence as usual. Post some evidence of polich you >hairless bonce.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/04/building-construction-companies-under-stress-as-more-go-into-liquidation.html
    May you choke on your polich . . .



    - have they stopped work on state house building and
    refurbishment that was making good progress over the last three years? >>>Have they? Do you have an answer?

    There may well be a journalist who has already spoken to some of the >>>>tenants at Christopher Luxon's rental properties to find out when the >>>>next rent review is due - and waiting to see whether it goes up or >>>>down.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 31 02:13:15 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:31:24 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:43:09 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 30 Mar 2024 03:24:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-03-30, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    An interesting argument from the USA:
    http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/03/gordon-campbell-on-the-us-opposition-to-mortgage-interest-deductibility-for-landlords/

    To not allow mortgage interest deductibility will increase rents and it >>>>>>will
    also be illocical, as in all other businesses the costs of running the >>>>>>business is allows to dedcut its costs to get the taxable income.

    Running a rental agency is a business.

    If you/we/the Government wish to restrain the bad points that are >>>>>>happening
    we need to take action which will pull on the landlords excess profits >>>>>>without pushing up the rentals or reducing housing stock for rent.

    Sure it probably needs to be done and it is sure a challenge,


    From the article:
    As Bloomberg News summarised the situation:

    "…It is certainly not helping the housing market, first-time >>>>>home-buyers or the federal government’s fiscal health to subsidize the >>>>>debt of high-income households at a steep cost. The US Treasury >>>>>Department estimates the deduction — even at a reduced level with >>>>>fewer claimants — will cost just under $600 billion between 2019-2028. >>>>>There’s many ways that money could be re-purposed to help renters, >>>>>first-time buyers, or even put toward expanding the supply of housing >>>>>— all things the deduction doesn’t help currently."

    We will have to wait to see of course, but can you think of any reason >>>>>why a landlord would lower rents if there are enough people wanting to >>>>>rent at current prices - or even more if there is a shortage?

    I note that quite a few building companies have folded since National >>>>>was elected
    Even more went to the wall directly because of the Covid lockdowns and whet >>>>followed.

    Rubbish - relatively few collapsed at that time because there was >>>government support. Now with spending stopping from Government in a
    wide range of areas, as well as stoppages in Auckland, and many how
    may have thought of home improvements not battening down spending due
    to anticipating lower incomes and higher living costs, we are seeing >>>closures of quite a few building companies. The increased rate of >>>closures was on the news recently.
    Nonsense. Posted with zero evidence as usual. Post some evidence of polich >>you
    hairless bonce.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/04/building-construction-companies-under-stress-as-more-go-into-liquidation.html
    May you choke on your polich . . .
    You childish little moron - do you ever make typos? Of course you do - but unlike you the rest of us are above pointing it out.
    Still no evidence to support your babylike guesses in this post however. Typical lies then!



    - have they stopped work on state house building and
    refurbishment that was making good progress over the last three years? >>>>Have they? Do you have an answer?

    There may well be a journalist who has already spoken to some of the >>>>>tenants at Christopher Luxon's rental properties to find out when the >>>>>next rent review is due - and waiting to see whether it goes up or >>>>>down.

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