• Government putting New Zealand at Risk

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 25 17:38:22 2024
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dia-cuts-put-nz-path-fatfs-dreaded-grey-list-martin-dilly-cams-audit-jcqmc/

    An interesting article, that makes it clear that our regulatory
    credibility can matter, and that the ham-fisted lack of thought being
    given to the demands for blanket cuts may well put our Country at
    risk. Remember that line that Luxon pushed that cuts would be
    investigated "line by line" - in this case the relevant Minister is
    Brooke van Velden an MP since 2020. She may have got the End of Life
    bill through for ACT, but she clearly knows little about Anti-Money
    Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism - or their importance
    to New Zealand. The public servants are not able to go public on this
    sort of concern - it is good to hear concerns from professionals in
    the field.

    Risk Management is clearly not something the current government cares
    about - there will be a mess for the next government to pick up - and
    yes that will require additional staff in the public sector!

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Apr 25 07:33:36 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dia-cuts-put-nz-path-fatfs-dreaded-grey-list-martin-dilly-cams-audit-jcqmc/

    An interesting article, that makes it clear that our regulatory
    credibility can matter, and that the ham-fisted lack of thought being
    given to the demands for blanket cuts may well put our Country at
    risk. Remember that line that Luxon pushed that cuts would be
    investigated "line by line" - in this case the relevant Minister is
    Brooke van Velden an MP since 2020. She may have got the End of Life
    bill through for ACT, but she clearly knows little about Anti-Money >Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism - or their importance
    to New Zealand. The public servants are not able to go public on this
    sort of concern - it is good to hear concerns from professionals in
    the field.
    Absolute nonsense. You and the people who wrote that silly account know nothing whatsoever about what capability DIA have. Because they lose people does not mean they have less capability, although some people do think in those overly simplistic ways (don't you?).

    Risk Management is clearly not something the current government cares
    about - there will be a mess for the next government to pick up - and
    yes that will require additional staff in the public sector!
    Nonsense.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Apr 25 20:43:54 2024
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 07:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dia-cuts-put-nz-path-fatfs-dreaded-grey-list-martin-dilly-cams-audit-jcqmc/

    An interesting article, that makes it clear that our regulatory
    credibility can matter, and that the ham-fisted lack of thought being
    given to the demands for blanket cuts may well put our Country at
    risk. Remember that line that Luxon pushed that cuts would be
    investigated "line by line" - in this case the relevant Minister is
    Brooke van Velden an MP since 2020. She may have got the End of Life
    bill through for ACT, but she clearly knows little about Anti-Money >>Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism - or their importance
    to New Zealand. The public servants are not able to go public on this
    sort of concern - it is good to hear concerns from professionals in
    the field.
    Absolute nonsense. You and the people who wrote that silly account know nothing
    whatsoever about what capability DIA have. Because they lose people does not >mean they have less capability, although some people do think in those overly >simplistic ways (don't you?).

    Have a look at the author of the article:
    https://www.mdaml.co.nz/
    and
    https://www.fionahall-law.com/


    Risk Management is clearly not something the current government cares
    about - there will be a mess for the next government to pick up - and
    yes that will require additional staff in the public sector!
    Nonsense.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Apr 25 20:57:02 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 07:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dia-cuts-put-nz-path-fatfs-dreaded-grey-list-martin-dilly-cams-audit-jcqmc/

    An interesting article, that makes it clear that our regulatory >>>credibility can matter, and that the ham-fisted lack of thought being >>>given to the demands for blanket cuts may well put our Country at
    risk. Remember that line that Luxon pushed that cuts would be >>>investigated "line by line" - in this case the relevant Minister is >>>Brooke van Velden an MP since 2020. She may have got the End of Life
    bill through for ACT, but she clearly knows little about Anti-Money >>>Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism - or their importance
    to New Zealand. The public servants are not able to go public on this >>>sort of concern - it is good to hear concerns from professionals in
    the field.
    Absolute nonsense. You and the people who wrote that silly account know >>nothing
    whatsoever about what capability DIA have. Because they lose people does not >>mean they have less capability, although some people do think in those overly >>simplistic ways (don't you?).

    Have a look at the author of the article:
    https://www.mdaml.co.nz/
    and
    https://www.fionahall-law.com/
    Why?
    Meaningless.


    Risk Management is clearly not something the current government cares >>>about - there will be a mess for the next government to pick up - and
    yes that will require additional staff in the public sector!
    Nonsense.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Apr 25 23:03:23 2024
    On 2024-04-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dia-cuts-put-nz-path-fatfs-dreaded-grey-list-martin-dilly-cams-audit-jcqmc/

    An interesting article, that makes it clear that our regulatory
    credibility can matter, and that the ham-fisted lack of thought being
    given to the demands for blanket cuts may well put our Country at
    risk. Remember that line that Luxon pushed that cuts would be
    investigated "line by line" - in this case the relevant Minister is
    Brooke van Velden an MP since 2020. She may have got the End of Life
    bill through for ACT, but she clearly knows little about Anti-Money Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism - or their importance
    to New Zealand. The public servants are not able to go public on this
    sort of concern - it is good to hear concerns from professionals in
    the field.

    Risk Management is clearly not something the current government cares
    about - there will be a mess for the next government to pick up - and
    yes that will require additional staff in the public sector!

    Building the excuse right here!

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Fri Apr 26 15:57:27 2024
    On 25 Apr 2024 23:03:23 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-04-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dia-cuts-put-nz-path-fatfs-dreaded-grey-list-martin-dilly-cams-audit-jcqmc/

    An interesting article, that makes it clear that our regulatory
    credibility can matter, and that the ham-fisted lack of thought being
    given to the demands for blanket cuts may well put our Country at
    risk. Remember that line that Luxon pushed that cuts would be
    investigated "line by line" - in this case the relevant Minister is
    Brooke van Velden an MP since 2020. She may have got the End of Life
    bill through for ACT, but she clearly knows little about Anti-Money
    Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism - or their importance
    to New Zealand. The public servants are not able to go public on this
    sort of concern - it is good to hear concerns from professionals in
    the field.

    Risk Management is clearly not something the current government cares
    about - there will be a mess for the next government to pick up - and
    yes that will require additional staff in the public sector!

    Building the excuse right here!
    No, the government is increasing risk - we can all hope that it is not
    us or our bank that fails due to money laundering or a bank getting
    involved in financing terrorism. The [previous government were talking
    about a guarantee scheme to cover the first $100,000 of client funds
    in the event of a bank going under, but I don't think it got
    introduced. Even if you do not lose money directly, a bank failure
    would hit commerce badly, even if the government bails out many
    customers.

    Still, you seem to believe that regulators do not need to be involved
    . . . Here's hoping you are correct, but it is a bit like a large
    store not keeping security staff as they are costing money . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 26 04:18:18 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 25 Apr 2024 23:03:23 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-04-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dia-cuts-put-nz-path-fatfs-dreaded-grey-list-martin-dilly-cams-audit-jcqmc/

    An interesting article, that makes it clear that our regulatory
    credibility can matter, and that the ham-fisted lack of thought being
    given to the demands for blanket cuts may well put our Country at
    risk. Remember that line that Luxon pushed that cuts would be
    investigated "line by line" - in this case the relevant Minister is
    Brooke van Velden an MP since 2020. She may have got the End of Life
    bill through for ACT, but she clearly knows little about Anti-Money
    Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism - or their importance
    to New Zealand. The public servants are not able to go public on this
    sort of concern - it is good to hear concerns from professionals in
    the field.

    Risk Management is clearly not something the current government cares
    about - there will be a mess for the next government to pick up - and
    yes that will require additional staff in the public sector!

    Building the excuse right here!
    No, the government is increasing risk
    You have failed to show that. And so has the author of the article.
    As previously stated - reducing nubers of people does not necessarily reduce ability to do the job.
    - we can all hope that it is not
    us or our bank that fails due to money laundering or a bank getting
    involved in financing terrorism. The [previous government were talking
    about a guarantee scheme to cover the first $100,000 of client funds
    in the event of a bank going under, but I don't think it got
    introduced. Even if you do not lose money directly, a bank failure
    would hit commerce badly, even if the government bails out many
    customers.

    Still, you seem to believe that regulators do not need to be involved
    . . . Here's hoping you are correct, but it is a bit like a large
    store not keeping security staff as they are costing money . . .

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 26 16:45:02 2024
    On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 15:57:27 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 25 Apr 2024 23:03:23 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2024-04-25, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dia-cuts-put-nz-path-fatfs-dreaded-grey-list-martin-dilly-cams-audit-jcqmc/

    An interesting article, that makes it clear that our regulatory
    credibility can matter, and that the ham-fisted lack of thought being
    given to the demands for blanket cuts may well put our Country at
    risk. Remember that line that Luxon pushed that cuts would be
    investigated "line by line" - in this case the relevant Minister is
    Brooke van Velden an MP since 2020. She may have got the End of Life
    bill through for ACT, but she clearly knows little about Anti-Money
    Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism - or their importance
    to New Zealand. The public servants are not able to go public on this
    sort of concern - it is good to hear concerns from professionals in
    the field.

    Risk Management is clearly not something the current government cares
    about - there will be a mess for the next government to pick up - and
    yes that will require additional staff in the public sector!

    Building the excuse right here!
    No, the government is increasing risk - we can all hope that it is not
    us or our bank that fails due to money laundering or a bank getting
    involved in financing terrorism. The [previous government were talking
    about a guarantee scheme to cover the first $100,000 of client funds
    in the event of a bank going under, but I don't think it got
    introduced. Even if you do not lose money directly, a bank failure
    would hit commerce badly, even if the government bails out many
    customers.

    Still, you seem to believe that regulators do not need to be involved
    . . . Here's hoping you are correct, but it is a bit like a large
    store not keeping security staff as they are costing money . . .

    Rich you (and the article authors) are presuming that the elimination
    of roles will affect the quality and quantity of output from the DIA
    AML/CFT units. While that might be a reasonable conclusion, it is
    also reasonable to assume the headcount reductions come with such
    risks (loss of quantity and quality of output). There is nothing in
    the article that covers what the DIA may have said to the appropriate
    Minister on said risks.

    Your post, and the article it is based on, is conjecture, In the
    absence of the inclusion of advice to the Minister, it is uniformed
    conjecture.



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    Crash McBash

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