NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations as
“tagalongs” and “C-List”.
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra
and Sealord.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations as
?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.
There you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra
and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been used.
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nzHe was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically referring to business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
says...
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations asThere you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB here: >https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra
and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been used.
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >says...
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations asThere you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB here: >https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606He was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically referring to
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra
and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been used.
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nzLet me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is referring to the entire delegation. Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part" of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive and is typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nzHe was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically referring >>to
says...
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations asThere you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB here:
https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by
luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* of
the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly
poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this is
what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the last
six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had
just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is why
I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do business
in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their
business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um tagalongs
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra
and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been used.
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:I only said that because of what Luxon actually said - he referred to
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nzHe was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically referring >>>to
says...
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations asThere you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB here: >>> >https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
Listen again - Luxon repeatedly referred to the Business delegation,Let me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is referring to the
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by >>luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* of >>the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly
poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this is >>what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the last
six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had
just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is why
I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do business
in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their
business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um tagalongs
entire delegation.
Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part"No deception - I cannot hear any implication that the politicians,
of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive and is >typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
I have mentioned before that my English tends to be precise, some might say >literal - well I am not going to change that, it is a strength and not a >weakness. Rich meant to deceive and seems to have achieved that with you, with >respect. I called him out and you fell for his deception, mayhap!
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last >>> >> >year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra
and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been used.
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 03:01:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are lying still. The context is clear to all except political idiots like you.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:I only said that because of what Luxon actually said - he referred to >business leaders, and in consequence so did Jason Walls the Newstalk
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>> >says...He was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically >>>>referring
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations asThere you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB here: >>>> >https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
to
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
ZB journalist.
Listen again - Luxon repeatedly referred to the Business delegation,entire delegation.
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by >>>luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* of >>>the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly >>>poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this is >>>what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the last >>>six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had >>>just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is why
I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do business >>>in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their
business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um tagalongs >>Let me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is referring to >>the
and also said that he wanted business people that could get immediate
results from their inclusion. Now you may think that he was referring
to the politicians (himself?) or to the public servants, or to the >journalists, but none of those are expected to secure business deals
while on the trip - just listen again, Tony; and you may then wish to >apologise.
Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part"No deception - I cannot hear any implication that the politicians, >journalists or public servants on that trip were "C-listers" as you
of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive and >>is
typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
I have mentioned before that my English tends to be precise, some might say >>literal - well I am not going to change that, it is a strength and not a >>weakness. Rich meant to deceive and seems to have achieved that with you, >>with
respect. I called him out and you fell for his deception, mayhap!
imply.
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last >>>> >> >year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra >>>> >> >and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been used.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 03:01:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are lying still. The context is clear to all except political idiots like >you.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:I only said that because of what Luxon actually said - he referred to >>business leaders, and in consequence so did Jason Walls the Newstalk
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>> >says...He was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically >>>>>referring
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations asThere you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB here: >>>>> >https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
to
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
ZB journalist.
Listen again - Luxon repeatedly referred to the Business delegation,entire delegation.
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by >>>>luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* of >>>>the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly >>>>poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this is >>>>what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the last >>>>six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had >>>>just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is why >>>>I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do business >>>>in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their >>>>business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um tagalongs >>>Let me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is referring to >>>the
and also said that he wanted business people that could get immediate >>results from their inclusion. Now you may think that he was referring
to the politicians (himself?) or to the public servants, or to the >>journalists, but none of those are expected to secure business deals
while on the trip - just listen again, Tony; and you may then wish to >>apologise.
Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part"No deception - I cannot hear any implication that the politicians, >>journalists or public servants on that trip were "C-listers" as you
of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive and >>>is
typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
I have mentioned before that my English tends to be precise, some might say >>>literal - well I am not going to change that, it is a strength and not a >>>weakness. Rich meant to deceive and seems to have achieved that with you, >>>with
respect. I called him out and you fell for his deception, mayhap!
imply.
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last >>>>> >> >year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra >>>>> >> >and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been used.
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 04:59:48 -0000 (UTC), TonyUnimpressive. What I wrote is correct, You are still searching for something of value to add.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 03:01:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are lying still. The context is clear to all except political idiots like >>you.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:I only said that because of what Luxon actually said - he referred to >>>business leaders, and in consequence so did Jason Walls the Newstalk
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>>says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>>> >says...He was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically >>>>>>referring
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations as >>>>>> >> >?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.There you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB here: >>>>>> >https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
to
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
ZB journalist.
Listen again - Luxon repeatedly referred to the Business delegation,entire delegation.
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by >>>>>luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* of >>>>>the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly >>>>>poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this is >>>>>what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the last >>>>>six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had >>>>>just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is why >>>>>I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do business >>>>>in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their >>>>>business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um tagalongs >>>>Let me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is referring to >>>>the
and also said that he wanted business people that could get immediate >>>results from their inclusion. Now you may think that he was referring
to the politicians (himself?) or to the public servants, or to the >>>journalists, but none of those are expected to secure business deals >>>while on the trip - just listen again, Tony; and you may then wish to >>>apologise.
Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part"No deception - I cannot hear any implication that the politicians, >>>journalists or public servants on that trip were "C-listers" as you >>>imply.
of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive and >>>>is
typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
I have mentioned before that my English tends to be precise, some might say >>>>literal - well I am not going to change that, it is a strength and not a >>>>weakness. Rich meant to deceive and seems to have achieved that with you, >>>>with
respect. I called him out and you fell for his deception, mayhap!
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra >>>>>> >> >and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been >>>>>> >>used.
See: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/519976/watch-prime-minister-christopher-luxon-defends-c-list-comments
and then later: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/520010/c-list-delegation-member-every-nz-company-on-that-trip-wants-to-make-the-most-of-it
and then later this evening Radio New Zealand re[ported that Luxon had >apologised for some of his comments - that will doubtless become
available later . . .
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The story continues: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/520010/c-list-delegation-member-every-nz-company-on-that-trip-wants-to-make-the-most-of-it
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 03:01:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are lying still. The context is clear to all except political idiots like >you.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:I only said that because of what Luxon actually said - he referred to >>business leaders, and in consequence so did Jason Walls the Newstalk
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>> >says...He was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically >>>>>referring
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations asThere you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB here: >>>>> >https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
to
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
ZB journalist.
Listen again - Luxon repeatedly referred to the Business delegation,entire delegation.
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by >>>>luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* of >>>>the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly >>>>poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this is >>>>what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the last >>>>six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had >>>>just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is why >>>>I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do business >>>>in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their >>>>business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um tagalongs >>>Let me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is referring to >>>the
and also said that he wanted business people that could get immediate >>results from their inclusion. Now you may think that he was referring
to the politicians (himself?) or to the public servants, or to the >>journalists, but none of those are expected to secure business deals
while on the trip - just listen again, Tony; and you may then wish to >>apologise.
Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part"No deception - I cannot hear any implication that the politicians, >>journalists or public servants on that trip were "C-listers" as you
of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive and >>>is
typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
I have mentioned before that my English tends to be precise, some might say >>>literal - well I am not going to change that, it is a strength and not a >>>weakness. Rich meant to deceive and seems to have achieved that with you, >>>with
respect. I called him out and you fell for his deception, mayhap!
imply.
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last >>>>> >> >year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra >>>>> >> >and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been used.
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 04:59:48 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are still deliberately misunderstanding what Luxon actually said, and you are wasting bandwidth.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The story continues: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/520010/c-list-delegation-member-every-nz-company-on-that-trip-wants-to-make-the-most-of-it
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 03:01:17 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are lying still. The context is clear to all except political idiots like >>you.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:I only said that because of what Luxon actually said - he referred to >>>business leaders, and in consequence so did Jason Walls the Newstalk
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>>says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>>> >says...He was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically >>>>>>referring
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations as >>>>>> >> >?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.There you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB here: >>>>>> >https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
to
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
ZB journalist.
Listen again - Luxon repeatedly referred to the Business delegation,entire delegation.
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by >>>>>luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* of >>>>>the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly >>>>>poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this is >>>>>what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the last >>>>>six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had >>>>>just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is why >>>>>I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do business >>>>>in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their >>>>>business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um tagalongs >>>>Let me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is referring to >>>>the
and also said that he wanted business people that could get immediate >>>results from their inclusion. Now you may think that he was referring
to the politicians (himself?) or to the public servants, or to the >>>journalists, but none of those are expected to secure business deals >>>while on the trip - just listen again, Tony; and you may then wish to >>>apologise.
Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part"No deception - I cannot hear any implication that the politicians, >>>journalists or public servants on that trip were "C-listers" as you >>>imply.
of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive and >>>>is
typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
I have mentioned before that my English tends to be precise, some might say >>>>literal - well I am not going to change that, it is a strength and not a >>>>weakness. Rich meant to deceive and seems to have achieved that with you, >>>>with
respect. I called him out and you fell for his deception, mayhap!
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra >>>>>> >> >and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been >>>>>> >>used.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 04:59:48 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are still deliberately misunderstanding what Luxon actually said, and you >are wasting bandwidth.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The story continues: >>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/520010/c-list-delegation-member-every-nz-company-on-that-trip-wants-to-make-the-most-of-it
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 03:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You are lying still. The context is clear to all except political idiots like
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:I only said that because of what Luxon actually said - he referred to >>>>business leaders, and in consequence so did Jason Walls the Newstalk
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>>>says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>>>> >says...He was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically >>>>>>>referring
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations as >>>>>>> >> >?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.There you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB here:
https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
to
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
ZB journalist.
Listen again - Luxon repeatedly referred to the Business delegation, >>>>and also said that he wanted business people that could get immediate >>>>results from their inclusion. Now you may think that he was referring >>>>to the politicians (himself?) or to the public servants, or to the >>>>journalists, but none of those are expected to secure business deals >>>>while on the trip - just listen again, Tony; and you may then wish to >>>>apologise.the
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by >>>>>>luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* of >>>>>>the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly >>>>>>poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this is >>>>>>what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the last >>>>>>six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had >>>>>>just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is why >>>>>>I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do business >>>>>>in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their >>>>>>business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um tagalongs >>>>>Let me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is referring to
entire delegation.
Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part"No deception - I cannot hear any implication that the politicians, >>>>journalists or public servants on that trip were "C-listers" as you >>>>imply.
of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive and
is
typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
I have mentioned before that my English tends to be precise, some might say
literal - well I am not going to change that, it is a strength and not a >>>>>weakness. Rich meant to deceive and seems to have achieved that with you, >>>>>with
respect. I called him out and you fell for his deception, mayhap!
you.
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra >>>>>>> >> >and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been >>>>>>> >>used.
On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 02:27:00 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhich changes nothing. I am still correct and you are still politicking.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 04:59:48 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are still deliberately misunderstanding what Luxon actually said, and you >>are wasting bandwidth.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The story continues: >>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/520010/c-list-delegation-member-every-nz-company-on-that-trip-wants-to-make-the-most-of-it
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 03:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You are lying still. The context is clear to all except political idiots >>>>like
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:I only said that because of what Luxon actually said - he referred to >>>>>business leaders, and in consequence so did Jason Walls the Newstalk >>>>>ZB journalist.
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>>>>says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>>>>> >says...He was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically >>>>>>>>referring
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations as >>>>>>>> >> >?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.There you are - that is another lie. He did not say that.
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB >>>>>>>> >here:
https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
to
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
Listen again - Luxon repeatedly referred to the Business delegation, >>>>>and also said that he wanted business people that could get immediate >>>>>results from their inclusion. Now you may think that he was referring >>>>>to the politicians (himself?) or to the public servants, or to the >>>>>journalists, but none of those are expected to secure business deals >>>>>while on the trip - just listen again, Tony; and you may then wish to >>>>>apologise.the
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by >>>>>>>luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* of >>>>>>>the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly >>>>>>>poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this is >>>>>>>what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the last >>>>>>>six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had >>>>>>>just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is why >>>>>>>I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do business >>>>>>>in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their >>>>>>>business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um tagalongs >>>>>>Let me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is referring >>>>>>to
entire delegation.
Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part"No deception - I cannot hear any implication that the politicians, >>>>>journalists or public servants on that trip were "C-listers" as you >>>>>imply.
of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive >>>>>>and
is
typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
I have mentioned before that my English tends to be precise, some might >>>>>>say
literal - well I am not going to change that, it is a strength and not a >>>>>>weakness. Rich meant to deceive and seems to have achieved that with you, >>>>>>with
respect. I called him out and you fell for his deception, mayhap!
you.
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China >>>>>>>> >> >last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra
and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been >>>>>>>> >>used.
Posted in another thread, but more relevant here: >https://x.com/rugbyintel/status/1803478848987865317
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 02:27:00 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhich changes nothing. I am still correct and you are still politicking.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 04:59:48 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You are still deliberately misunderstanding what Luxon actually said, and you
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The story continues: >>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/520010/c-list-delegation-member-every-nz-company-on-that-trip-wants-to-make-the-most-of-it
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 03:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You are lying still. The context is clear to all except political idiots >>>>>like
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:I only said that because of what Luxon actually said - he referred to >>>>>>business leaders, and in consequence so did Jason Walls the Newstalk >>>>>>ZB journalist.
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>>>>>says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nzHe was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically >>>>>>>>>referring
says...
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB >>>>>>>>> >here:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations as >>>>>>>>> >> >?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.There you are - that is another lie. He did not say that. >>>>>>>>> >
https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
to
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
Listen again - Luxon repeatedly referred to the Business delegation, >>>>>>and also said that he wanted business people that could get immediate >>>>>>results from their inclusion. Now you may think that he was referring >>>>>>to the politicians (himself?) or to the public servants, or to the >>>>>>journalists, but none of those are expected to secure business deals >>>>>>while on the trip - just listen again, Tony; and you may then wish to >>>>>>apologise.Let me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is referring >>>>>>>to
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by >>>>>>>>luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* of
the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly >>>>>>>>poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this is >>>>>>>>what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the last >>>>>>>>six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had >>>>>>>>just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is why >>>>>>>>I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do business
in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their >>>>>>>>business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um tagalongs
the
entire delegation.
Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part"
of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive >>>>>>>and
is
typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
I have mentioned before that my English tends to be precise, some might >>>>>>>say
literal - well I am not going to change that, it is a strength and not a >>>>>>>weakness. Rich meant to deceive and seems to have achieved that with you,
with
respect. I called him out and you fell for his deception, mayhap! >>>>>>No deception - I cannot hear any implication that the politicians, >>>>>>journalists or public servants on that trip were "C-listers" as you >>>>>>imply.
you.
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China >>>>>>>>> >> >last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of Fonterra
and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been >>>>>>>>> >>used.
are wasting bandwidth.
Posted in another thread, but more relevant here: >>https://x.com/rugbyintel/status/1803478848987865317
On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 06:25:59 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are correct, your self delusion is really strong - I would say all-powerful. It drives your every mistake and abusiveness.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 02:27:00 -0000 (UTC), TonyWhich changes nothing. I am still correct and you are still politicking.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 04:59:48 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You are still deliberately misunderstanding what Luxon actually said, and >>>>you
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The story continues: >>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/520010/c-list-delegation-member-every-nz-company-on-that-trip-wants-to-make-the-most-of-it
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 03:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You are lying still. The context is clear to all except political idiots >>>>>>like
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:I only said that because of what Luxon actually said - he referred to >>>>>>>business leaders, and in consequence so did Jason Walls the Newstalk >>>>>>>ZB journalist.
In article <part1of1.1.NCxpH7#h$vzOWA@ue.ph>, lizandtony@orcon.net.nz >>>>>>>>>says...
David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:
In article <part1of1.1.cPM1AIkGCPJcBQ@ue.ph>,He was referring to the entire delegation., Rich was specifically >>>>>>>>>>referring
lizandtony@orcon.net.nz
says...
To my surprise, he did actually say it. Recording from NewstalkZB >>>>>>>>>> >here:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
NZ PM Luxon calls business leaders on Labour-led delegations as >>>>>>>>>> >> >?tagalongs? and ?C-List?.There you are - that is another lie. He did not say that. >>>>>>>>>> >
https://twitter.com/benmackey/status/1802888424841785606
to
business leaders. A typical political tactic by Rich.
Listen again - Luxon repeatedly referred to the Business delegation, >>>>>>>and also said that he wanted business people that could get immediate >>>>>>>results from their inclusion. Now you may think that he was referring >>>>>>>to the politicians (himself?) or to the public servants, or to the >>>>>>>journalists, but none of those are expected to secure business deals >>>>>>>while on the trip - just listen again, Tony; and you may then wish to >>>>>>>apologise.Let me repeat. I agree, and have already stated, that Luxon is >>>>>>>>referring
The business leaders in the delegations being referred to as C-List by >>>>>>>>>luxon?
Luxon seems to be considering the entire delegations C-List *because* >>>>>>>>>of
the business leaders that were in them. I'll admit the audio is fairly >>>>>>>>>poor - Luxon isn't talking very loudly for whatever reason. But this >>>>>>>>>is
what I could make out:
"I felt a lot of our delegations ... the few that we did do in the >>>>>>>>>last
six years compared to when I would go with Key on a few of them um had >>>>>>>>>just got very watered down to sort of the C-List really and this is >>>>>>>>>why
I want the A-List being there and I want businesses that can do >>>>>>>>>business
in Japan and have interests in Japan and its a key part of their >>>>>>>>>business strategy going forward, being on the trip not just um >>>>>>>>>tagalongs
to
the
entire delegation.
Rich only mentioned business leaders who make up only "part"
of the delegation. That ploy by Rich is a deliberate attempt to deceive >>>>>>>>and
is
typical of him and other amateur political hacks.
I have mentioned before that my English tends to be precise, some might >>>>>>>>say
literal - well I am not going to change that, it is a strength and not >>>>>>>>a
weakness. Rich meant to deceive and seems to have achieved that with >>>>>>>>you,
with
respect. I called him out and you fell for his deception, mayhap! >>>>>>>No deception - I cannot hear any implication that the politicians, >>>>>>>journalists or public servants on that trip were "C-listers" as you >>>>>>>imply.
you.
Think back:Irrelevant since Luxon did not say what you stated.
Business leaders accompanying Hipkins' trade delegation to China >>>>>>>>>> >> >last
year included the CEO of Air New Zealand and the chairs of >>>>>>>>>> >> >Fonterra
and Sealord.
But then, lies are all you have once your sarcasm tipple has been >>>>>>>>>> >>used.
are wasting bandwidth.
Posted in another thread, but more relevant here: >>>https://x.com/rugbyintel/status/1803478848987865317
The self-delusion is strong . . . . So all I am saying to you is
that these are two videos that demonstrate an ability to smile even
when, at the end of the day, he still appears to have nearly half a
mind left to smile while making a fool of himself - your kind of guy,
Tony!
https://x.com/i/status/1802950615892685178 >https://x.com/i/status/1803277905545371995 >https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQeNn2RaIAAaWkM?format=png&name=small
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