• An ongoing failure of the current Government

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 16 18:41:37 2024
    If there is interest, I will post the source of the following article
    (I did not wrote it!)
    ___________________________________________________

    Another day, and yet another piece of bad news for New Zealand's
    health system.

    Reports have come out that General Practitioners (GP) may have to
    close doors, or increase patient fees to survive. The so-called
    'capitation' funding review, which supports GP practices to survive,
    is under way, and primary care practitioners are concerned.

    First, let's do a quick recap to examine our health system landscape
    since Prime Minister Luxon, Health Minister Shane Reti and Finance
    Minister Nicola Willis have taken over their porfolios.

    In May, MP for Whangarei, Shane Reti, was selling his Government's
    health credentials:
    "Our Government has set ambitious targets for the health sector…(Our)
    budget prioritises frontline health services & workers "
    But just a month earlier, in April, a series of information leaks had
    already forced Health NZ to confirm it had brought PWC consultants in
    and were directing all public hospitals to save a total of $105
    million by July 2024.

    For example, Auckland was asked to cut $15.5m from its hospitals,
    Northland $4.5m, Canterbury & South Canterbury $14.5m, Nelson $3m, Bay
    of Plenty ~$7m etc.

    The directive confirmed "the Government is asking the public sector to
    make efficiencies to manage significant cost pressures."

    Could this have anything to do with the $12-14bn of tax cuts the
    National Government was going to gift us all in May?

    The one that Nicola Willis made on the back of public service cuts and
    lowering beneficiary incomes. The one she then borrowed an additional
    $12bn for, pushing us into a government debt ratio of ~45% and with a
    larger budget deficit than any of Grant Robertson's budgets, bar
    Covid?

    Furthermore, Reti had, as soon as he got into office and through to
    the budget:
    " Put on indefinite hold the Whangarei hospital re-build despite
    the previous government's committed funds of $800m to it.
    " Put into limbo Nelson's hospital plans, after plans had
    already been procured and agreed to for optimal patient care and
    capacity.
    " Deferred Dunedin hospital investment without a clear timeline,
    putting into doubt previous National Party promises
    " Did not fund any of the mental health doctors they promised
    " Funded half of the promised new medical registrars, and trying
    to blame that decision on the Universities!
    " Broke their promise of funding cancer drugs in the May budget,
    then spectacularly u-turning after public backlash.
    " Cut funding for the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC)
    who is already dealing with a 3 year backlog of complaints
    " Cut $381 million in planned digital health investment, after
    Labour had committed the funds, leaving the health system in a
    disarray of paper records, and paper trails

    And as Ministers Reti and Willis plugged their budget as being good
    for healthcare, doctors and medical professionals simultaneously
    warned:
    This budget leaves our health system treading water, our workforce over-stretched and patients left waiting longer and longer.

    About hospitals again -
    It's been confirmed again this week that frontline hospital roles are
    going unfilled, amidst Health NZ's budget cuts.

    Don't forget that this austerity doesn't apply to landlords ($3bn over
    4 years), pothole contractors ($4bn over 3 years), and road build
    spend ($70bn over 10 years)

    Make no mistake - this is about priorities, not forced austerity.

    Last month, Health NZ denied a hiring freeze despite suddenly freezing
    new graduate nurse intakes. At a time of critical nursing shortages,
    it was a bizarre move to not support our home grown graduates and
    leave them in the lurch like this.

    Health NZ had already ordered an immediate hiring freeze on all
    non-frontline roles - as if that imaginary line between front-line and non-frontline means anything in practice.

    This week, Whangarei hospital nurses stepped out to warn that
    conditions for patients and staff in Northland hospitals were
    deteriorating rapidly. "Eventually somebody will die." They feared
    Government cutbacks on staffing was affecting patient care and risked
    lives -

    Hospitals are not the only frontline staff feeling the heat.

    Back to primary care -
    We are in a GP crisis. It's not new. Weeks long waits to see one are
    common, if access is available at all. General Practitioners
    Aotearoa's Dr Burrell has said New Zealand's GP-to-patient ratios is "embarrassing". Only 25% of practising doctors now work in primary
    care, a stark fall from years before.

    The GP body wrote to Health Minister Dr Shane Reti 5 months ago to
    discuss how to address this crisis.

    Two months after that, Shane Reti showed us how that went. On a
    segment on Q&A with Jack Tame, he said he didn't include GP targets
    into his Government's 'ambitious' public service targets, because that
    was "too hard."

    Once again, this Government demonstrates a keen lack of seriousness
    and responsibility, instead giving themselves homework that's more
    suitable for crayons than serious governance.

    I could go on, but let's start to wrap it up.
    In Lower Hutt, National Minister Chris Bishop's electorate, one
    practice had one GP for over 9000 patients. Today, after a lot of
    publicity and pressure, they hired a new GP.

    The health system is in crisis, and it will need bold leadership to
    correct. The previous Government had started a number of those
    measures, and it is up to the current one to not only advance them,
    but also improve on it. Not roll them back and make it worse, or
    redirect investment to tax cuts and roads instead.

    Before the election, ACT promised "care and dignity" to primary care practitioners. 13% funding per patient was what they said they would
    offer to GP practices if they won.

    Fast forward to over a year later.

    New Zealand's GP practices have just been offered 4% in "capitation"
    patient funding support from the Government - that's less than
    inflation, and well below their cost pressures. The profession said
    this could hurt an already struggling sector and force some practices
    to close. But they are also being told they can increase patient fees
    by nearly 8 per cent to compensate.

    That means, this Coalition Government wants sick New Zealanders to
    stump up the extra, with 1% still missing, at a time when cost of
    living, and the reinstatement of prescription fees is already hurting
    many.

    The consultation process is now underway and as always, we hope the
    Government will capitulate to common sense.

    Still how much of all the gifted tax cuts will be eaten up by ongoing
    fees caused directly by this same Government?

    Is it any surprise that two more Health NZ Board members have suddenly
    and 'surprisingly' quit before their term has ended? That leaves only
    2 members left after others opted to opt-out as well.

    Make no mistake, our health system is in crisis. The decisions of the
    present count much more than any number of road cones.
    These are not only significant health infrastructure deficits, they
    are health system deficits of skill, morale, capacity, and leadership
    too.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 07:21:12 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    If there is interest, I will post the source of the following article
    (I did not wrote it!)
    ___________________________________________________

    Another day, and yet another piece of bad news for New Zealand's
    health system.

    Reports have come out that General Practitioners (GP) may have to
    close doors, or increase patient fees to survive. The so-called
    'capitation' funding review, which supports GP practices to survive,
    is under way, and primary care practitioners are concerned.

    First, let's do a quick recap to examine our health system landscape
    since Prime Minister Luxon, Health Minister Shane Reti and Finance
    Minister Nicola Willis have taken over their porfolios.

    In May, MP for Whangarei, Shane Reti, was selling his Government's
    health credentials:
    "Our Government has set ambitious targets for the health sector…(Our)
    budget prioritises frontline health services & workers "
    But just a month earlier, in April, a series of information leaks had
    already forced Health NZ to confirm it had brought PWC consultants in
    and were directing all public hospitals to save a total of $105
    million by July 2024.

    For example, Auckland was asked to cut $15.5m from its hospitals,
    Northland $4.5m, Canterbury & South Canterbury $14.5m, Nelson $3m, Bay
    of Plenty ~$7m etc.

    The directive confirmed "the Government is asking the public sector to
    make efficiencies to manage significant cost pressures."

    Could this have anything to do with the $12-14bn of tax cuts the
    National Government was going to gift us all in May?

    The one that Nicola Willis made on the back of public service cuts and >lowering beneficiary incomes. The one she then borrowed an additional
    $12bn for, pushing us into a government debt ratio of ~45% and with a
    larger budget deficit than any of Grant Robertson's budgets, bar
    Covid?

    Furthermore, Reti had, as soon as he got into office and through to
    the budget:
    " Put on indefinite hold the Whangarei hospital re-build despite
    the previous government's committed funds of $800m to it.
    " Put into limbo Nelson's hospital plans, after plans had
    already been procured and agreed to for optimal patient care and
    capacity.
    " Deferred Dunedin hospital investment without a clear timeline,
    putting into doubt previous National Party promises
    " Did not fund any of the mental health doctors they promised
    " Funded half of the promised new medical registrars, and trying
    to blame that decision on the Universities!
    " Broke their promise of funding cancer drugs in the May budget,
    then spectacularly u-turning after public backlash.
    " Cut funding for the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC)
    who is already dealing with a 3 year backlog of complaints
    " Cut $381 million in planned digital health investment, after
    Labour had committed the funds, leaving the health system in a
    disarray of paper records, and paper trails

    And as Ministers Reti and Willis plugged their budget as being good
    for healthcare, doctors and medical professionals simultaneously
    warned:
    This budget leaves our health system treading water, our workforce >over-stretched and patients left waiting longer and longer.

    About hospitals again -
    It's been confirmed again this week that frontline hospital roles are
    going unfilled, amidst Health NZ's budget cuts.

    Don't forget that this austerity doesn't apply to landlords ($3bn over
    4 years), pothole contractors ($4bn over 3 years), and road build
    spend ($70bn over 10 years)

    Make no mistake - this is about priorities, not forced austerity.

    Last month, Health NZ denied a hiring freeze despite suddenly freezing
    new graduate nurse intakes. At a time of critical nursing shortages,
    it was a bizarre move to not support our home grown graduates and
    leave them in the lurch like this.

    Health NZ had already ordered an immediate hiring freeze on all
    non-frontline roles - as if that imaginary line between front-line and >non-frontline means anything in practice.

    This week, Whangarei hospital nurses stepped out to warn that
    conditions for patients and staff in Northland hospitals were
    deteriorating rapidly. "Eventually somebody will die." They feared
    Government cutbacks on staffing was affecting patient care and risked
    lives -

    Hospitals are not the only frontline staff feeling the heat.

    Back to primary care -
    We are in a GP crisis. It's not new. Weeks long waits to see one are
    common, if access is available at all. General Practitioners
    Aotearoa's Dr Burrell has said New Zealand's GP-to-patient ratios is >"embarrassing". Only 25% of practising doctors now work in primary
    care, a stark fall from years before.

    The GP body wrote to Health Minister Dr Shane Reti 5 months ago to
    discuss how to address this crisis.

    Two months after that, Shane Reti showed us how that went. On a
    segment on Q&A with Jack Tame, he said he didn't include GP targets
    into his Government's 'ambitious' public service targets, because that
    was "too hard."

    Once again, this Government demonstrates a keen lack of seriousness
    and responsibility, instead giving themselves homework that's more
    suitable for crayons than serious governance.

    I could go on, but let's start to wrap it up.
    In Lower Hutt, National Minister Chris Bishop's electorate, one
    practice had one GP for over 9000 patients. Today, after a lot of
    publicity and pressure, they hired a new GP.

    The health system is in crisis, and it will need bold leadership to
    correct. The previous Government had started a number of those
    measures, and it is up to the current one to not only advance them,
    but also improve on it. Not roll them back and make it worse, or
    redirect investment to tax cuts and roads instead.

    Before the election, ACT promised "care and dignity" to primary care >practitioners. 13% funding per patient was what they said they would
    offer to GP practices if they won.

    Fast forward to over a year later.

    New Zealand's GP practices have just been offered 4% in "capitation"
    patient funding support from the Government - that's less than
    inflation, and well below their cost pressures. The profession said
    this could hurt an already struggling sector and force some practices
    to close. But they are also being told they can increase patient fees
    by nearly 8 per cent to compensate.

    That means, this Coalition Government wants sick New Zealanders to
    stump up the extra, with 1% still missing, at a time when cost of
    living, and the reinstatement of prescription fees is already hurting
    many.

    The consultation process is now underway and as always, we hope the >Government will capitulate to common sense.

    Still how much of all the gifted tax cuts will be eaten up by ongoing
    fees caused directly by this same Government?

    Is it any surprise that two more Health NZ Board members have suddenly
    and 'surprisingly' quit before their term has ended? That leaves only
    2 members left after others opted to opt-out as well.

    Make no mistake, our health system is in crisis. The decisions of the
    present count much more than any number of road cones.
    These are not only significant health infrastructure deficits, they
    are health system deficits of skill, morale, capacity, and leadership
    too.
    Our health system has been in crisis for decades and the last government only made it worse.
    You are referring above to a review which is not yet over - so you are making shit up until it is complete and you know what they find.
    Move on and find a real problem to bitch about.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 08:11:30 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    If there is interest, I will post the source of the following article
    (I did not wrote it!)
    ___________________________________________________

    Another day, and yet another piece of bad news for New Zealand's
    health system.

    Reports have come out that General Practitioners (GP) may have to
    close doors, or increase patient fees to survive. The so-called >>>'capitation' funding review, which supports GP practices to survive,
    is under way, and primary care practitioners are concerned.

    First, let's do a quick recap to examine our health system landscape >>>since Prime Minister Luxon, Health Minister Shane Reti and Finance >>>Minister Nicola Willis have taken over their porfolios.

    In May, MP for Whangarei, Shane Reti, was selling his Government's
    health credentials:
    "Our Government has set ambitious targets for the health sector…(Our) >>>budget prioritises frontline health services & workers "
    But just a month earlier, in April, a series of information leaks had >>>already forced Health NZ to confirm it had brought PWC consultants in
    and were directing all public hospitals to save a total of $105
    million by July 2024.

    For example, Auckland was asked to cut $15.5m from its hospitals, >>>Northland $4.5m, Canterbury & South Canterbury $14.5m, Nelson $3m, Bay
    of Plenty ~$7m etc.

    The directive confirmed "the Government is asking the public sector to >>>make efficiencies to manage significant cost pressures."

    Could this have anything to do with the $12-14bn of tax cuts the
    National Government was going to gift us all in May?

    The one that Nicola Willis made on the back of public service cuts and >>>lowering beneficiary incomes. The one she then borrowed an additional >>>$12bn for, pushing us into a government debt ratio of ~45% and with a >>>larger budget deficit than any of Grant Robertson's budgets, bar
    Covid?

    Furthermore, Reti had, as soon as he got into office and through to
    the budget:
    " Put on indefinite hold the Whangarei hospital re-build despite
    the previous government's committed funds of $800m to it.
    " Put into limbo Nelson's hospital plans, after plans had
    already been procured and agreed to for optimal patient care and >>>capacity.
    " Deferred Dunedin hospital investment without a clear timeline, >>>putting into doubt previous National Party promises
    " Did not fund any of the mental health doctors they promised
    " Funded half of the promised new medical registrars, and trying
    to blame that decision on the Universities!
    " Broke their promise of funding cancer drugs in the May budget,
    then spectacularly u-turning after public backlash.
    " Cut funding for the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC)
    who is already dealing with a 3 year backlog of complaints
    " Cut $381 million in planned digital health investment, after
    Labour had committed the funds, leaving the health system in a
    disarray of paper records, and paper trails

    And as Ministers Reti and Willis plugged their budget as being good
    for healthcare, doctors and medical professionals simultaneously
    warned:
    This budget leaves our health system treading water, our workforce >>>over-stretched and patients left waiting longer and longer.

    About hospitals again -
    It's been confirmed again this week that frontline hospital roles are >>>going unfilled, amidst Health NZ's budget cuts.

    Don't forget that this austerity doesn't apply to landlords ($3bn over
    4 years), pothole contractors ($4bn over 3 years), and road build
    spend ($70bn over 10 years)

    Make no mistake - this is about priorities, not forced austerity.

    Last month, Health NZ denied a hiring freeze despite suddenly freezing >>>new graduate nurse intakes. At a time of critical nursing shortages,
    it was a bizarre move to not support our home grown graduates and
    leave them in the lurch like this.

    Health NZ had already ordered an immediate hiring freeze on all >>>non-frontline roles - as if that imaginary line between front-line and >>>non-frontline means anything in practice.

    This week, Whangarei hospital nurses stepped out to warn that
    conditions for patients and staff in Northland hospitals were >>>deteriorating rapidly. "Eventually somebody will die." They feared >>>Government cutbacks on staffing was affecting patient care and risked >>>lives -

    Hospitals are not the only frontline staff feeling the heat.

    Back to primary care -
    We are in a GP crisis. It's not new. Weeks long waits to see one are >>>common, if access is available at all. General Practitioners
    Aotearoa's Dr Burrell has said New Zealand's GP-to-patient ratios is >>>"embarrassing". Only 25% of practising doctors now work in primary
    care, a stark fall from years before.

    The GP body wrote to Health Minister Dr Shane Reti 5 months ago to >>>discuss how to address this crisis.

    Two months after that, Shane Reti showed us how that went. On a
    segment on Q&A with Jack Tame, he said he didn't include GP targets
    into his Government's 'ambitious' public service targets, because that >>>was "too hard."

    Once again, this Government demonstrates a keen lack of seriousness
    and responsibility, instead giving themselves homework that's more >>>suitable for crayons than serious governance.

    I could go on, but let's start to wrap it up.
    In Lower Hutt, National Minister Chris Bishop's electorate, one
    practice had one GP for over 9000 patients. Today, after a lot of >>>publicity and pressure, they hired a new GP.

    The health system is in crisis, and it will need bold leadership to >>>correct. The previous Government had started a number of those
    measures, and it is up to the current one to not only advance them,
    but also improve on it. Not roll them back and make it worse, or
    redirect investment to tax cuts and roads instead.

    Before the election, ACT promised "care and dignity" to primary care >>>practitioners. 13% funding per patient was what they said they would >>>offer to GP practices if they won.

    Fast forward to over a year later.

    New Zealand's GP practices have just been offered 4% in "capitation" >>>patient funding support from the Government - that's less than
    inflation, and well below their cost pressures. The profession said
    this could hurt an already struggling sector and force some practices
    to close. But they are also being told they can increase patient fees
    by nearly 8 per cent to compensate.

    That means, this Coalition Government wants sick New Zealanders to
    stump up the extra, with 1% still missing, at a time when cost of
    living, and the reinstatement of prescription fees is already hurting >>>many.

    The consultation process is now underway and as always, we hope the >>>Government will capitulate to common sense.

    Still how much of all the gifted tax cuts will be eaten up by ongoing >>>fees caused directly by this same Government?

    Is it any surprise that two more Health NZ Board members have suddenly >>>and 'surprisingly' quit before their term has ended? That leaves only
    2 members left after others opted to opt-out as well.

    Make no mistake, our health system is in crisis. The decisions of the >>>present count much more than any number of road cones.
    These are not only significant health infrastructure deficits, they
    are health system deficits of skill, morale, capacity, and leadership >>>too.
    Our health system has been in crisis for decades and the last government only >>made it worse.
    You are referring above to a review which is not yet over - so you are making >>shit up until it is complete and you know what they find.
    Move on and find a real problem to bitch about.

    Identify one thing that is made up then . . . .
    Nah, you prove the above accusations. That is the way logic works, I know that you don't work that way but the rest of humanity does.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Tue Jul 16 20:07:55 2024
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    If there is interest, I will post the source of the following article
    (I did not wrote it!)
    ___________________________________________________

    Another day, and yet another piece of bad news for New Zealand's
    health system.

    Reports have come out that General Practitioners (GP) may have to
    close doors, or increase patient fees to survive. The so-called >>'capitation' funding review, which supports GP practices to survive,
    is under way, and primary care practitioners are concerned.

    First, let's do a quick recap to examine our health system landscape
    since Prime Minister Luxon, Health Minister Shane Reti and Finance
    Minister Nicola Willis have taken over their porfolios.

    In May, MP for Whangarei, Shane Reti, was selling his Government's
    health credentials:
    "Our Government has set ambitious targets for the health sector…(Our) >>budget prioritises frontline health services & workers "
    But just a month earlier, in April, a series of information leaks had >>already forced Health NZ to confirm it had brought PWC consultants in
    and were directing all public hospitals to save a total of $105
    million by July 2024.

    For example, Auckland was asked to cut $15.5m from its hospitals,
    Northland $4.5m, Canterbury & South Canterbury $14.5m, Nelson $3m, Bay
    of Plenty ~$7m etc.

    The directive confirmed "the Government is asking the public sector to
    make efficiencies to manage significant cost pressures."

    Could this have anything to do with the $12-14bn of tax cuts the
    National Government was going to gift us all in May?

    The one that Nicola Willis made on the back of public service cuts and >>lowering beneficiary incomes. The one she then borrowed an additional
    $12bn for, pushing us into a government debt ratio of ~45% and with a >>larger budget deficit than any of Grant Robertson's budgets, bar
    Covid?

    Furthermore, Reti had, as soon as he got into office and through to
    the budget:
    " Put on indefinite hold the Whangarei hospital re-build despite
    the previous government's committed funds of $800m to it.
    " Put into limbo Nelson's hospital plans, after plans had
    already been procured and agreed to for optimal patient care and
    capacity.
    " Deferred Dunedin hospital investment without a clear timeline, >>putting into doubt previous National Party promises
    " Did not fund any of the mental health doctors they promised
    " Funded half of the promised new medical registrars, and trying
    to blame that decision on the Universities!
    " Broke their promise of funding cancer drugs in the May budget,
    then spectacularly u-turning after public backlash.
    " Cut funding for the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC)
    who is already dealing with a 3 year backlog of complaints
    " Cut $381 million in planned digital health investment, after
    Labour had committed the funds, leaving the health system in a
    disarray of paper records, and paper trails

    And as Ministers Reti and Willis plugged their budget as being good
    for healthcare, doctors and medical professionals simultaneously
    warned:
    This budget leaves our health system treading water, our workforce >>over-stretched and patients left waiting longer and longer.

    About hospitals again -
    It's been confirmed again this week that frontline hospital roles are
    going unfilled, amidst Health NZ's budget cuts.

    Don't forget that this austerity doesn't apply to landlords ($3bn over
    4 years), pothole contractors ($4bn over 3 years), and road build
    spend ($70bn over 10 years)

    Make no mistake - this is about priorities, not forced austerity.

    Last month, Health NZ denied a hiring freeze despite suddenly freezing
    new graduate nurse intakes. At a time of critical nursing shortages,
    it was a bizarre move to not support our home grown graduates and
    leave them in the lurch like this.

    Health NZ had already ordered an immediate hiring freeze on all >>non-frontline roles - as if that imaginary line between front-line and >>non-frontline means anything in practice.

    This week, Whangarei hospital nurses stepped out to warn that
    conditions for patients and staff in Northland hospitals were
    deteriorating rapidly. "Eventually somebody will die." They feared >>Government cutbacks on staffing was affecting patient care and risked
    lives -

    Hospitals are not the only frontline staff feeling the heat.

    Back to primary care -
    We are in a GP crisis. It's not new. Weeks long waits to see one are >>common, if access is available at all. General Practitioners
    Aotearoa's Dr Burrell has said New Zealand's GP-to-patient ratios is >>"embarrassing". Only 25% of practising doctors now work in primary
    care, a stark fall from years before.

    The GP body wrote to Health Minister Dr Shane Reti 5 months ago to
    discuss how to address this crisis.

    Two months after that, Shane Reti showed us how that went. On a
    segment on Q&A with Jack Tame, he said he didn't include GP targets
    into his Government's 'ambitious' public service targets, because that
    was "too hard."

    Once again, this Government demonstrates a keen lack of seriousness
    and responsibility, instead giving themselves homework that's more
    suitable for crayons than serious governance.

    I could go on, but let's start to wrap it up.
    In Lower Hutt, National Minister Chris Bishop's electorate, one
    practice had one GP for over 9000 patients. Today, after a lot of
    publicity and pressure, they hired a new GP.

    The health system is in crisis, and it will need bold leadership to >>correct. The previous Government had started a number of those
    measures, and it is up to the current one to not only advance them,
    but also improve on it. Not roll them back and make it worse, or
    redirect investment to tax cuts and roads instead.

    Before the election, ACT promised "care and dignity" to primary care >>practitioners. 13% funding per patient was what they said they would
    offer to GP practices if they won.

    Fast forward to over a year later.

    New Zealand's GP practices have just been offered 4% in "capitation" >>patient funding support from the Government - that's less than
    inflation, and well below their cost pressures. The profession said
    this could hurt an already struggling sector and force some practices
    to close. But they are also being told they can increase patient fees
    by nearly 8 per cent to compensate.

    That means, this Coalition Government wants sick New Zealanders to
    stump up the extra, with 1% still missing, at a time when cost of
    living, and the reinstatement of prescription fees is already hurting
    many.

    The consultation process is now underway and as always, we hope the >>Government will capitulate to common sense.

    Still how much of all the gifted tax cuts will be eaten up by ongoing
    fees caused directly by this same Government?

    Is it any surprise that two more Health NZ Board members have suddenly
    and 'surprisingly' quit before their term has ended? That leaves only
    2 members left after others opted to opt-out as well.

    Make no mistake, our health system is in crisis. The decisions of the >>present count much more than any number of road cones.
    These are not only significant health infrastructure deficits, they
    are health system deficits of skill, morale, capacity, and leadership
    too.
    Our health system has been in crisis for decades and the last government only >made it worse.
    You are referring above to a review which is not yet over - so you are making >shit up until it is complete and you know what they find.
    Move on and find a real problem to bitch about.

    Identify one thing that is made up then . . . .

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Tue Jul 16 22:51:52 2024
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:11:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    If there is interest, I will post the source of the following article >>>>(I did not wrote it!) >>>>___________________________________________________

    Another day, and yet another piece of bad news for New Zealand's
    health system.

    Reports have come out that General Practitioners (GP) may have to
    close doors, or increase patient fees to survive. The so-called >>>>'capitation' funding review, which supports GP practices to survive,
    is under way, and primary care practitioners are concerned.

    First, let's do a quick recap to examine our health system landscape >>>>since Prime Minister Luxon, Health Minister Shane Reti and Finance >>>>Minister Nicola Willis have taken over their porfolios.

    In May, MP for Whangarei, Shane Reti, was selling his Government's >>>>health credentials:
    "Our Government has set ambitious targets for the health sector…(Our) >>>>budget prioritises frontline health services & workers "
    But just a month earlier, in April, a series of information leaks had >>>>already forced Health NZ to confirm it had brought PWC consultants in >>>>and were directing all public hospitals to save a total of $105
    million by July 2024.

    For example, Auckland was asked to cut $15.5m from its hospitals, >>>>Northland $4.5m, Canterbury & South Canterbury $14.5m, Nelson $3m, Bay >>>>of Plenty ~$7m etc.

    The directive confirmed "the Government is asking the public sector to >>>>make efficiencies to manage significant cost pressures."

    Could this have anything to do with the $12-14bn of tax cuts the >>>>National Government was going to gift us all in May?

    The one that Nicola Willis made on the back of public service cuts and >>>>lowering beneficiary incomes. The one she then borrowed an additional >>>>$12bn for, pushing us into a government debt ratio of ~45% and with a >>>>larger budget deficit than any of Grant Robertson's budgets, bar
    Covid?

    Furthermore, Reti had, as soon as he got into office and through to
    the budget:
    " Put on indefinite hold the Whangarei hospital re-build despite
    the previous government's committed funds of $800m to it.
    " Put into limbo Nelson's hospital plans, after plans had
    already been procured and agreed to for optimal patient care and >>>>capacity.
    " Deferred Dunedin hospital investment without a clear timeline, >>>>putting into doubt previous National Party promises
    " Did not fund any of the mental health doctors they promised
    " Funded half of the promised new medical registrars, and trying
    to blame that decision on the Universities!
    " Broke their promise of funding cancer drugs in the May budget,
    then spectacularly u-turning after public backlash.
    " Cut funding for the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC)
    who is already dealing with a 3 year backlog of complaints
    " Cut $381 million in planned digital health investment, after
    Labour had committed the funds, leaving the health system in a
    disarray of paper records, and paper trails

    And as Ministers Reti and Willis plugged their budget as being good
    for healthcare, doctors and medical professionals simultaneously >>>>warned:
    This budget leaves our health system treading water, our workforce >>>>over-stretched and patients left waiting longer and longer.

    About hospitals again -
    It's been confirmed again this week that frontline hospital roles are >>>>going unfilled, amidst Health NZ's budget cuts.

    Don't forget that this austerity doesn't apply to landlords ($3bn over >>>>4 years), pothole contractors ($4bn over 3 years), and road build
    spend ($70bn over 10 years)

    Make no mistake - this is about priorities, not forced austerity.

    Last month, Health NZ denied a hiring freeze despite suddenly freezing >>>>new graduate nurse intakes. At a time of critical nursing shortages,
    it was a bizarre move to not support our home grown graduates and
    leave them in the lurch like this.

    Health NZ had already ordered an immediate hiring freeze on all >>>>non-frontline roles - as if that imaginary line between front-line and >>>>non-frontline means anything in practice.

    This week, Whangarei hospital nurses stepped out to warn that >>>>conditions for patients and staff in Northland hospitals were >>>>deteriorating rapidly. "Eventually somebody will die." They feared >>>>Government cutbacks on staffing was affecting patient care and risked >>>>lives -

    Hospitals are not the only frontline staff feeling the heat.

    Back to primary care -
    We are in a GP crisis. It's not new. Weeks long waits to see one are >>>>common, if access is available at all. General Practitioners
    Aotearoa's Dr Burrell has said New Zealand's GP-to-patient ratios is >>>>"embarrassing". Only 25% of practising doctors now work in primary >>>>care, a stark fall from years before.

    The GP body wrote to Health Minister Dr Shane Reti 5 months ago to >>>>discuss how to address this crisis.

    Two months after that, Shane Reti showed us how that went. On a
    segment on Q&A with Jack Tame, he said he didn't include GP targets >>>>into his Government's 'ambitious' public service targets, because that >>>>was "too hard."

    Once again, this Government demonstrates a keen lack of seriousness
    and responsibility, instead giving themselves homework that's more >>>>suitable for crayons than serious governance.

    I could go on, but let's start to wrap it up.
    In Lower Hutt, National Minister Chris Bishop's electorate, one >>>>practice had one GP for over 9000 patients. Today, after a lot of >>>>publicity and pressure, they hired a new GP.

    The health system is in crisis, and it will need bold leadership to >>>>correct. The previous Government had started a number of those >>>>measures, and it is up to the current one to not only advance them,
    but also improve on it. Not roll them back and make it worse, or >>>>redirect investment to tax cuts and roads instead.

    Before the election, ACT promised "care and dignity" to primary care >>>>practitioners. 13% funding per patient was what they said they would >>>>offer to GP practices if they won.

    Fast forward to over a year later.

    New Zealand's GP practices have just been offered 4% in "capitation" >>>>patient funding support from the Government - that's less than >>>>inflation, and well below their cost pressures. The profession said >>>>this could hurt an already struggling sector and force some practices >>>>to close. But they are also being told they can increase patient fees >>>>by nearly 8 per cent to compensate.

    That means, this Coalition Government wants sick New Zealanders to >>>>stump up the extra, with 1% still missing, at a time when cost of >>>>living, and the reinstatement of prescription fees is already hurting >>>>many.

    The consultation process is now underway and as always, we hope the >>>>Government will capitulate to common sense.

    Still how much of all the gifted tax cuts will be eaten up by ongoing >>>>fees caused directly by this same Government?

    Is it any surprise that two more Health NZ Board members have suddenly >>>>and 'surprisingly' quit before their term has ended? That leaves only
    2 members left after others opted to opt-out as well.

    Make no mistake, our health system is in crisis. The decisions of the >>>>present count much more than any number of road cones.
    These are not only significant health infrastructure deficits, they
    are health system deficits of skill, morale, capacity, and leadership >>>>too.
    Our health system has been in crisis for decades and the last government only
    made it worse.
    You are referring above to a review which is not yet over - so you are making
    shit up until it is complete and you know what they find.
    Move on and find a real problem to bitch about.

    Identify one thing that is made up then . . . .
    Nah, you prove the above accusations. That is the way logic works, I know that >you don't work that way but the rest of humanity does.

    You accused me of making shit up - you made the accusation, you prove
    it, Tony.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 20:41:08 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:11:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    If there is interest, I will post the source of the following article >>>>>(I did not wrote it!) >>>>>___________________________________________________

    Another day, and yet another piece of bad news for New Zealand's >>>>>health system.

    Reports have come out that General Practitioners (GP) may have to >>>>>close doors, or increase patient fees to survive. The so-called >>>>>'capitation' funding review, which supports GP practices to survive, >>>>>is under way, and primary care practitioners are concerned.

    First, let's do a quick recap to examine our health system landscape >>>>>since Prime Minister Luxon, Health Minister Shane Reti and Finance >>>>>Minister Nicola Willis have taken over their porfolios.

    In May, MP for Whangarei, Shane Reti, was selling his Government's >>>>>health credentials:
    "Our Government has set ambitious targets for the health sector…(Our) >>>>>budget prioritises frontline health services & workers "
    But just a month earlier, in April, a series of information leaks had >>>>>already forced Health NZ to confirm it had brought PWC consultants in >>>>>and were directing all public hospitals to save a total of $105 >>>>>million by July 2024.

    For example, Auckland was asked to cut $15.5m from its hospitals, >>>>>Northland $4.5m, Canterbury & South Canterbury $14.5m, Nelson $3m, Bay >>>>>of Plenty ~$7m etc.

    The directive confirmed "the Government is asking the public sector to >>>>>make efficiencies to manage significant cost pressures."

    Could this have anything to do with the $12-14bn of tax cuts the >>>>>National Government was going to gift us all in May?

    The one that Nicola Willis made on the back of public service cuts and >>>>>lowering beneficiary incomes. The one she then borrowed an additional >>>>>$12bn for, pushing us into a government debt ratio of ~45% and with a >>>>>larger budget deficit than any of Grant Robertson's budgets, bar >>>>>Covid?

    Furthermore, Reti had, as soon as he got into office and through to >>>>>the budget:
    " Put on indefinite hold the Whangarei hospital re-build despite
    the previous government's committed funds of $800m to it.
    " Put into limbo Nelson's hospital plans, after plans had
    already been procured and agreed to for optimal patient care and >>>>>capacity.
    " Deferred Dunedin hospital investment without a clear timeline, >>>>>putting into doubt previous National Party promises
    " Did not fund any of the mental health doctors they promised
    " Funded half of the promised new medical registrars, and trying
    to blame that decision on the Universities!
    " Broke their promise of funding cancer drugs in the May budget, >>>>>then spectacularly u-turning after public backlash.
    " Cut funding for the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC)
    who is already dealing with a 3 year backlog of complaints
    " Cut $381 million in planned digital health investment, after >>>>>Labour had committed the funds, leaving the health system in a >>>>>disarray of paper records, and paper trails

    And as Ministers Reti and Willis plugged their budget as being good >>>>>for healthcare, doctors and medical professionals simultaneously >>>>>warned:
    This budget leaves our health system treading water, our workforce >>>>>over-stretched and patients left waiting longer and longer.

    About hospitals again -
    It's been confirmed again this week that frontline hospital roles are >>>>>going unfilled, amidst Health NZ's budget cuts.

    Don't forget that this austerity doesn't apply to landlords ($3bn over >>>>>4 years), pothole contractors ($4bn over 3 years), and road build >>>>>spend ($70bn over 10 years)

    Make no mistake - this is about priorities, not forced austerity.

    Last month, Health NZ denied a hiring freeze despite suddenly freezing >>>>>new graduate nurse intakes. At a time of critical nursing shortages, >>>>>it was a bizarre move to not support our home grown graduates and >>>>>leave them in the lurch like this.

    Health NZ had already ordered an immediate hiring freeze on all >>>>>non-frontline roles - as if that imaginary line between front-line and >>>>>non-frontline means anything in practice.

    This week, Whangarei hospital nurses stepped out to warn that >>>>>conditions for patients and staff in Northland hospitals were >>>>>deteriorating rapidly. "Eventually somebody will die." They feared >>>>>Government cutbacks on staffing was affecting patient care and risked >>>>>lives -

    Hospitals are not the only frontline staff feeling the heat.

    Back to primary care -
    We are in a GP crisis. It's not new. Weeks long waits to see one are >>>>>common, if access is available at all. General Practitioners >>>>>Aotearoa's Dr Burrell has said New Zealand's GP-to-patient ratios is >>>>>"embarrassing". Only 25% of practising doctors now work in primary >>>>>care, a stark fall from years before.

    The GP body wrote to Health Minister Dr Shane Reti 5 months ago to >>>>>discuss how to address this crisis.

    Two months after that, Shane Reti showed us how that went. On a >>>>>segment on Q&A with Jack Tame, he said he didn't include GP targets >>>>>into his Government's 'ambitious' public service targets, because that >>>>>was "too hard."

    Once again, this Government demonstrates a keen lack of seriousness >>>>>and responsibility, instead giving themselves homework that's more >>>>>suitable for crayons than serious governance.

    I could go on, but let's start to wrap it up.
    In Lower Hutt, National Minister Chris Bishop's electorate, one >>>>>practice had one GP for over 9000 patients. Today, after a lot of >>>>>publicity and pressure, they hired a new GP.

    The health system is in crisis, and it will need bold leadership to >>>>>correct. The previous Government had started a number of those >>>>>measures, and it is up to the current one to not only advance them, >>>>>but also improve on it. Not roll them back and make it worse, or >>>>>redirect investment to tax cuts and roads instead.

    Before the election, ACT promised "care and dignity" to primary care >>>>>practitioners. 13% funding per patient was what they said they would >>>>>offer to GP practices if they won.

    Fast forward to over a year later.

    New Zealand's GP practices have just been offered 4% in "capitation" >>>>>patient funding support from the Government - that's less than >>>>>inflation, and well below their cost pressures. The profession said >>>>>this could hurt an already struggling sector and force some practices >>>>>to close. But they are also being told they can increase patient fees >>>>>by nearly 8 per cent to compensate.

    That means, this Coalition Government wants sick New Zealanders to >>>>>stump up the extra, with 1% still missing, at a time when cost of >>>>>living, and the reinstatement of prescription fees is already hurting >>>>>many.

    The consultation process is now underway and as always, we hope the >>>>>Government will capitulate to common sense.

    Still how much of all the gifted tax cuts will be eaten up by ongoing >>>>>fees caused directly by this same Government?

    Is it any surprise that two more Health NZ Board members have suddenly >>>>>and 'surprisingly' quit before their term has ended? That leaves only >>>>>2 members left after others opted to opt-out as well.

    Make no mistake, our health system is in crisis. The decisions of the >>>>>present count much more than any number of road cones.
    These are not only significant health infrastructure deficits, they >>>>>are health system deficits of skill, morale, capacity, and leadership >>>>>too.
    Our health system has been in crisis for decades and the last government >>>>only
    made it worse.
    You are referring above to a review which is not yet over - so you are >>>>making
    shit up until it is complete and you know what they find.
    Move on and find a real problem to bitch about.

    Identify one thing that is made up then . . . .
    Nah, you prove the above accusations. That is the way logic works, I know >>that
    you don't work that way but the rest of humanity does.

    You accused me of making shit up - you made the accusation, you prove
    it, Tony.
    No it doesn't work that way. You have not shown any evidence to support your original post. Do that and then we are in a position to debate, until then you are are still making shit up.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Wed Jul 17 15:12:19 2024
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:41:08 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:11:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    If there is interest, I will post the source of the following article >>>>>>(I did not wrote it!) >>>>>>___________________________________________________

    Another day, and yet another piece of bad news for New Zealand's >>>>>>health system.

    Reports have come out that General Practitioners (GP) may have to >>>>>>close doors, or increase patient fees to survive. The so-called >>>>>>'capitation' funding review, which supports GP practices to survive, >>>>>>is under way, and primary care practitioners are concerned.

    First, let's do a quick recap to examine our health system landscape >>>>>>since Prime Minister Luxon, Health Minister Shane Reti and Finance >>>>>>Minister Nicola Willis have taken over their porfolios.

    In May, MP for Whangarei, Shane Reti, was selling his Government's >>>>>>health credentials:
    "Our Government has set ambitious targets for the health sector…(Our) >>>>>>budget prioritises frontline health services & workers "
    But just a month earlier, in April, a series of information leaks had >>>>>>already forced Health NZ to confirm it had brought PWC consultants in >>>>>>and were directing all public hospitals to save a total of $105 >>>>>>million by July 2024.

    For example, Auckland was asked to cut $15.5m from its hospitals, >>>>>>Northland $4.5m, Canterbury & South Canterbury $14.5m, Nelson $3m, Bay >>>>>>of Plenty ~$7m etc.

    The directive confirmed "the Government is asking the public sector to >>>>>>make efficiencies to manage significant cost pressures."

    Could this have anything to do with the $12-14bn of tax cuts the >>>>>>National Government was going to gift us all in May?

    The one that Nicola Willis made on the back of public service cuts and >>>>>>lowering beneficiary incomes. The one she then borrowed an additional >>>>>>$12bn for, pushing us into a government debt ratio of ~45% and with a >>>>>>larger budget deficit than any of Grant Robertson's budgets, bar >>>>>>Covid?

    Furthermore, Reti had, as soon as he got into office and through to >>>>>>the budget:
    " Put on indefinite hold the Whangarei hospital re-build despite >>>>>>the previous government's committed funds of $800m to it.
    " Put into limbo Nelson's hospital plans, after plans had
    already been procured and agreed to for optimal patient care and >>>>>>capacity.
    " Deferred Dunedin hospital investment without a clear timeline, >>>>>>putting into doubt previous National Party promises
    " Did not fund any of the mental health doctors they promised
    " Funded half of the promised new medical registrars, and trying
    to blame that decision on the Universities!
    " Broke their promise of funding cancer drugs in the May budget, >>>>>>then spectacularly u-turning after public backlash.
    " Cut funding for the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC)
    who is already dealing with a 3 year backlog of complaints
    " Cut $381 million in planned digital health investment, after >>>>>>Labour had committed the funds, leaving the health system in a >>>>>>disarray of paper records, and paper trails

    And as Ministers Reti and Willis plugged their budget as being good >>>>>>for healthcare, doctors and medical professionals simultaneously >>>>>>warned:
    This budget leaves our health system treading water, our workforce >>>>>>over-stretched and patients left waiting longer and longer.

    About hospitals again -
    It's been confirmed again this week that frontline hospital roles are >>>>>>going unfilled, amidst Health NZ's budget cuts.

    Don't forget that this austerity doesn't apply to landlords ($3bn over >>>>>>4 years), pothole contractors ($4bn over 3 years), and road build >>>>>>spend ($70bn over 10 years)

    Make no mistake - this is about priorities, not forced austerity.

    Last month, Health NZ denied a hiring freeze despite suddenly freezing >>>>>>new graduate nurse intakes. At a time of critical nursing shortages, >>>>>>it was a bizarre move to not support our home grown graduates and >>>>>>leave them in the lurch like this.

    Health NZ had already ordered an immediate hiring freeze on all >>>>>>non-frontline roles - as if that imaginary line between front-line and >>>>>>non-frontline means anything in practice.

    This week, Whangarei hospital nurses stepped out to warn that >>>>>>conditions for patients and staff in Northland hospitals were >>>>>>deteriorating rapidly. "Eventually somebody will die." They feared >>>>>>Government cutbacks on staffing was affecting patient care and risked >>>>>>lives -

    Hospitals are not the only frontline staff feeling the heat.

    Back to primary care -
    We are in a GP crisis. It's not new. Weeks long waits to see one are >>>>>>common, if access is available at all. General Practitioners >>>>>>Aotearoa's Dr Burrell has said New Zealand's GP-to-patient ratios is >>>>>>"embarrassing". Only 25% of practising doctors now work in primary >>>>>>care, a stark fall from years before.

    The GP body wrote to Health Minister Dr Shane Reti 5 months ago to >>>>>>discuss how to address this crisis.

    Two months after that, Shane Reti showed us how that went. On a >>>>>>segment on Q&A with Jack Tame, he said he didn't include GP targets >>>>>>into his Government's 'ambitious' public service targets, because that >>>>>>was "too hard."

    Once again, this Government demonstrates a keen lack of seriousness >>>>>>and responsibility, instead giving themselves homework that's more >>>>>>suitable for crayons than serious governance.

    I could go on, but let's start to wrap it up.
    In Lower Hutt, National Minister Chris Bishop's electorate, one >>>>>>practice had one GP for over 9000 patients. Today, after a lot of >>>>>>publicity and pressure, they hired a new GP.

    The health system is in crisis, and it will need bold leadership to >>>>>>correct. The previous Government had started a number of those >>>>>>measures, and it is up to the current one to not only advance them, >>>>>>but also improve on it. Not roll them back and make it worse, or >>>>>>redirect investment to tax cuts and roads instead.

    Before the election, ACT promised "care and dignity" to primary care >>>>>>practitioners. 13% funding per patient was what they said they would >>>>>>offer to GP practices if they won.

    Fast forward to over a year later.

    New Zealand's GP practices have just been offered 4% in "capitation" >>>>>>patient funding support from the Government - that's less than >>>>>>inflation, and well below their cost pressures. The profession said >>>>>>this could hurt an already struggling sector and force some practices >>>>>>to close. But they are also being told they can increase patient fees >>>>>>by nearly 8 per cent to compensate.

    That means, this Coalition Government wants sick New Zealanders to >>>>>>stump up the extra, with 1% still missing, at a time when cost of >>>>>>living, and the reinstatement of prescription fees is already hurting >>>>>>many.

    The consultation process is now underway and as always, we hope the >>>>>>Government will capitulate to common sense.

    Still how much of all the gifted tax cuts will be eaten up by ongoing >>>>>>fees caused directly by this same Government?

    Is it any surprise that two more Health NZ Board members have suddenly >>>>>>and 'surprisingly' quit before their term has ended? That leaves only >>>>>>2 members left after others opted to opt-out as well.

    Make no mistake, our health system is in crisis. The decisions of the >>>>>>present count much more than any number of road cones.
    These are not only significant health infrastructure deficits, they >>>>>>are health system deficits of skill, morale, capacity, and leadership >>>>>>too.
    Our health system has been in crisis for decades and the last government >>>>>only
    made it worse.
    You are referring above to a review which is not yet over - so you are >>>>>making
    shit up until it is complete and you know what they find.
    Move on and find a real problem to bitch about.

    Identify one thing that is made up then . . . .
    Nah, you prove the above accusations. That is the way logic works, I know >>>that
    you don't work that way but the rest of humanity does.

    You accused me of making shit up - you made the accusation, you prove
    it, Tony.
    No it doesn't work that way. You have not shown any evidence to support your >original post. Do that and then we are in a position to debate, until then you >are are still making shit up.

    I clearly said that I did not write the material that I posted. I
    believed that it had general interest, and saw nothing that appeared
    untrue. no subsequent posters have identified anything that appears to
    them to not be true.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Wed Jul 17 15:31:14 2024
    On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 03:24:08 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:41:08 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:11:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    If there is interest, I will post the source of the following article >>>>>>>>(I did not wrote it!) >>>>>>>>___________________________________________________

    Another day, and yet another piece of bad news for New Zealand's >>>>>>>>health system.

    Reports have come out that General Practitioners (GP) may have to >>>>>>>>close doors, or increase patient fees to survive. The so-called >>>>>>>>'capitation' funding review, which supports GP practices to survive, >>>>>>>>is under way, and primary care practitioners are concerned.

    First, let's do a quick recap to examine our health system landscape >>>>>>>>since Prime Minister Luxon, Health Minister Shane Reti and Finance >>>>>>>>Minister Nicola Willis have taken over their porfolios.

    In May, MP for Whangarei, Shane Reti, was selling his Government's >>>>>>>>health credentials:
    "Our Government has set ambitious targets for the health sector…(Our) >>>>>>>>budget prioritises frontline health services & workers "
    But just a month earlier, in April, a series of information leaks had >>>>>>>>already forced Health NZ to confirm it had brought PWC consultants in >>>>>>>>and were directing all public hospitals to save a total of $105 >>>>>>>>million by July 2024.

    For example, Auckland was asked to cut $15.5m from its hospitals, >>>>>>>>Northland $4.5m, Canterbury & South Canterbury $14.5m, Nelson $3m, Bay >>>>>>>>of Plenty ~$7m etc.

    The directive confirmed "the Government is asking the public sector to >>>>>>>>make efficiencies to manage significant cost pressures."

    Could this have anything to do with the $12-14bn of tax cuts the >>>>>>>>National Government was going to gift us all in May?

    The one that Nicola Willis made on the back of public service cuts and >>>>>>>>lowering beneficiary incomes. The one she then borrowed an additional >>>>>>>>$12bn for, pushing us into a government debt ratio of ~45% and with a >>>>>>>>larger budget deficit than any of Grant Robertson's budgets, bar >>>>>>>>Covid?

    Furthermore, Reti had, as soon as he got into office and through to >>>>>>>>the budget:
    " Put on indefinite hold the Whangarei hospital re-build despite >>>>>>>>the previous government's committed funds of $800m to it.
    " Put into limbo Nelson's hospital plans, after plans had >>>>>>>>already been procured and agreed to for optimal patient care and >>>>>>>>capacity.
    " Deferred Dunedin hospital investment without a clear timeline, >>>>>>>>putting into doubt previous National Party promises
    " Did not fund any of the mental health doctors they promised >>>>>>>>" Funded half of the promised new medical registrars, and trying >>>>>>>>to blame that decision on the Universities!
    " Broke their promise of funding cancer drugs in the May budget, >>>>>>>>then spectacularly u-turning after public backlash.
    " Cut funding for the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC) >>>>>>>>who is already dealing with a 3 year backlog of complaints
    " Cut $381 million in planned digital health investment, after >>>>>>>>Labour had committed the funds, leaving the health system in a >>>>>>>>disarray of paper records, and paper trails

    And as Ministers Reti and Willis plugged their budget as being good >>>>>>>>for healthcare, doctors and medical professionals simultaneously >>>>>>>>warned:
    This budget leaves our health system treading water, our workforce >>>>>>>>over-stretched and patients left waiting longer and longer.

    About hospitals again -
    It's been confirmed again this week that frontline hospital roles are >>>>>>>>going unfilled, amidst Health NZ's budget cuts.

    Don't forget that this austerity doesn't apply to landlords ($3bn over >>>>>>>>4 years), pothole contractors ($4bn over 3 years), and road build >>>>>>>>spend ($70bn over 10 years)

    Make no mistake - this is about priorities, not forced austerity. >>>>>>>>
    Last month, Health NZ denied a hiring freeze despite suddenly freezing >>>>>>>>new graduate nurse intakes. At a time of critical nursing shortages, >>>>>>>>it was a bizarre move to not support our home grown graduates and >>>>>>>>leave them in the lurch like this.

    Health NZ had already ordered an immediate hiring freeze on all >>>>>>>>non-frontline roles - as if that imaginary line between front-line and >>>>>>>>non-frontline means anything in practice.

    This week, Whangarei hospital nurses stepped out to warn that >>>>>>>>conditions for patients and staff in Northland hospitals were >>>>>>>>deteriorating rapidly. "Eventually somebody will die." They feared >>>>>>>>Government cutbacks on staffing was affecting patient care and risked >>>>>>>>lives -

    Hospitals are not the only frontline staff feeling the heat.

    Back to primary care -
    We are in a GP crisis. It's not new. Weeks long waits to see one are >>>>>>>>common, if access is available at all. General Practitioners >>>>>>>>Aotearoa's Dr Burrell has said New Zealand's GP-to-patient ratios is >>>>>>>>"embarrassing". Only 25% of practising doctors now work in primary >>>>>>>>care, a stark fall from years before.

    The GP body wrote to Health Minister Dr Shane Reti 5 months ago to >>>>>>>>discuss how to address this crisis.

    Two months after that, Shane Reti showed us how that went. On a >>>>>>>>segment on Q&A with Jack Tame, he said he didn't include GP targets >>>>>>>>into his Government's 'ambitious' public service targets, because that >>>>>>>>was "too hard."

    Once again, this Government demonstrates a keen lack of seriousness >>>>>>>>and responsibility, instead giving themselves homework that's more >>>>>>>>suitable for crayons than serious governance.

    I could go on, but let's start to wrap it up.
    In Lower Hutt, National Minister Chris Bishop's electorate, one >>>>>>>>practice had one GP for over 9000 patients. Today, after a lot of >>>>>>>>publicity and pressure, they hired a new GP.

    The health system is in crisis, and it will need bold leadership to >>>>>>>>correct. The previous Government had started a number of those >>>>>>>>measures, and it is up to the current one to not only advance them, >>>>>>>>but also improve on it. Not roll them back and make it worse, or >>>>>>>>redirect investment to tax cuts and roads instead.

    Before the election, ACT promised "care and dignity" to primary care >>>>>>>>practitioners. 13% funding per patient was what they said they would >>>>>>>>offer to GP practices if they won.

    Fast forward to over a year later.

    New Zealand's GP practices have just been offered 4% in "capitation" >>>>>>>>patient funding support from the Government - that's less than >>>>>>>>inflation, and well below their cost pressures. The profession said >>>>>>>>this could hurt an already struggling sector and force some practices >>>>>>>>to close. But they are also being told they can increase patient fees >>>>>>>>by nearly 8 per cent to compensate.

    That means, this Coalition Government wants sick New Zealanders to >>>>>>>>stump up the extra, with 1% still missing, at a time when cost of >>>>>>>>living, and the reinstatement of prescription fees is already hurting >>>>>>>>many.

    The consultation process is now underway and as always, we hope the >>>>>>>>Government will capitulate to common sense.

    Still how much of all the gifted tax cuts will be eaten up by ongoing >>>>>>>>fees caused directly by this same Government?

    Is it any surprise that two more Health NZ Board members have suddenly >>>>>>>>and 'surprisingly' quit before their term has ended? That leaves only >>>>>>>>2 members left after others opted to opt-out as well.

    Make no mistake, our health system is in crisis. The decisions of the >>>>>>>>present count much more than any number of road cones.
    These are not only significant health infrastructure deficits, they >>>>>>>>are health system deficits of skill, morale, capacity, and leadership >>>>>>>>too.
    Our health system has been in crisis for decades and the last government >>>>>>>only
    made it worse.
    You are referring above to a review which is not yet over - so you are >>>>>>>making
    shit up until it is complete and you know what they find.
    Move on and find a real problem to bitch about.

    Identify one thing that is made up then . . . .
    Nah, you prove the above accusations. That is the way logic works, I know >>>>>that
    you don't work that way but the rest of humanity does.

    You accused me of making shit up - you made the accusation, you prove >>>>it, Tony.
    No it doesn't work that way. You have not shown any evidence to support your >>>original post. Do that and then we are in a position to debate, until then >>>you
    are are still making shit up.

    I clearly said that I did not write the material that I posted. I
    believed that it had general interest, and saw nothing that appeared >>untrue. no subsequent posters have identified anything that appears to
    them to not be true.
    If you cannot or do not wish to support a post you have made then you have no >right to expect others to support their disagreement with said post. Understood?

    Nobody has disagreed with any of it - no support would appear to be
    necessary.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 17 03:24:08 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:41:08 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:11:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    If there is interest, I will post the source of the following article >>>>>>>(I did not wrote it!) >>>>>>>___________________________________________________

    Another day, and yet another piece of bad news for New Zealand's >>>>>>>health system.

    Reports have come out that General Practitioners (GP) may have to >>>>>>>close doors, or increase patient fees to survive. The so-called >>>>>>>'capitation' funding review, which supports GP practices to survive, >>>>>>>is under way, and primary care practitioners are concerned.

    First, let's do a quick recap to examine our health system landscape >>>>>>>since Prime Minister Luxon, Health Minister Shane Reti and Finance >>>>>>>Minister Nicola Willis have taken over their porfolios.

    In May, MP for Whangarei, Shane Reti, was selling his Government's >>>>>>>health credentials:
    "Our Government has set ambitious targets for the health sector…(Our) >>>>>>>budget prioritises frontline health services & workers "
    But just a month earlier, in April, a series of information leaks had >>>>>>>already forced Health NZ to confirm it had brought PWC consultants in >>>>>>>and were directing all public hospitals to save a total of $105 >>>>>>>million by July 2024.

    For example, Auckland was asked to cut $15.5m from its hospitals, >>>>>>>Northland $4.5m, Canterbury & South Canterbury $14.5m, Nelson $3m, Bay >>>>>>>of Plenty ~$7m etc.

    The directive confirmed "the Government is asking the public sector to >>>>>>>make efficiencies to manage significant cost pressures."

    Could this have anything to do with the $12-14bn of tax cuts the >>>>>>>National Government was going to gift us all in May?

    The one that Nicola Willis made on the back of public service cuts and >>>>>>>lowering beneficiary incomes. The one she then borrowed an additional >>>>>>>$12bn for, pushing us into a government debt ratio of ~45% and with a >>>>>>>larger budget deficit than any of Grant Robertson's budgets, bar >>>>>>>Covid?

    Furthermore, Reti had, as soon as he got into office and through to >>>>>>>the budget:
    " Put on indefinite hold the Whangarei hospital re-build despite >>>>>>>the previous government's committed funds of $800m to it.
    " Put into limbo Nelson's hospital plans, after plans had >>>>>>>already been procured and agreed to for optimal patient care and >>>>>>>capacity.
    " Deferred Dunedin hospital investment without a clear timeline, >>>>>>>putting into doubt previous National Party promises
    " Did not fund any of the mental health doctors they promised >>>>>>>" Funded half of the promised new medical registrars, and trying >>>>>>>to blame that decision on the Universities!
    " Broke their promise of funding cancer drugs in the May budget, >>>>>>>then spectacularly u-turning after public backlash.
    " Cut funding for the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC) >>>>>>>who is already dealing with a 3 year backlog of complaints
    " Cut $381 million in planned digital health investment, after >>>>>>>Labour had committed the funds, leaving the health system in a >>>>>>>disarray of paper records, and paper trails

    And as Ministers Reti and Willis plugged their budget as being good >>>>>>>for healthcare, doctors and medical professionals simultaneously >>>>>>>warned:
    This budget leaves our health system treading water, our workforce >>>>>>>over-stretched and patients left waiting longer and longer.

    About hospitals again -
    It's been confirmed again this week that frontline hospital roles are >>>>>>>going unfilled, amidst Health NZ's budget cuts.

    Don't forget that this austerity doesn't apply to landlords ($3bn over >>>>>>>4 years), pothole contractors ($4bn over 3 years), and road build >>>>>>>spend ($70bn over 10 years)

    Make no mistake - this is about priorities, not forced austerity. >>>>>>>
    Last month, Health NZ denied a hiring freeze despite suddenly freezing >>>>>>>new graduate nurse intakes. At a time of critical nursing shortages, >>>>>>>it was a bizarre move to not support our home grown graduates and >>>>>>>leave them in the lurch like this.

    Health NZ had already ordered an immediate hiring freeze on all >>>>>>>non-frontline roles - as if that imaginary line between front-line and >>>>>>>non-frontline means anything in practice.

    This week, Whangarei hospital nurses stepped out to warn that >>>>>>>conditions for patients and staff in Northland hospitals were >>>>>>>deteriorating rapidly. "Eventually somebody will die." They feared >>>>>>>Government cutbacks on staffing was affecting patient care and risked >>>>>>>lives -

    Hospitals are not the only frontline staff feeling the heat.

    Back to primary care -
    We are in a GP crisis. It's not new. Weeks long waits to see one are >>>>>>>common, if access is available at all. General Practitioners >>>>>>>Aotearoa's Dr Burrell has said New Zealand's GP-to-patient ratios is >>>>>>>"embarrassing". Only 25% of practising doctors now work in primary >>>>>>>care, a stark fall from years before.

    The GP body wrote to Health Minister Dr Shane Reti 5 months ago to >>>>>>>discuss how to address this crisis.

    Two months after that, Shane Reti showed us how that went. On a >>>>>>>segment on Q&A with Jack Tame, he said he didn't include GP targets >>>>>>>into his Government's 'ambitious' public service targets, because that >>>>>>>was "too hard."

    Once again, this Government demonstrates a keen lack of seriousness >>>>>>>and responsibility, instead giving themselves homework that's more >>>>>>>suitable for crayons than serious governance.

    I could go on, but let's start to wrap it up.
    In Lower Hutt, National Minister Chris Bishop's electorate, one >>>>>>>practice had one GP for over 9000 patients. Today, after a lot of >>>>>>>publicity and pressure, they hired a new GP.

    The health system is in crisis, and it will need bold leadership to >>>>>>>correct. The previous Government had started a number of those >>>>>>>measures, and it is up to the current one to not only advance them, >>>>>>>but also improve on it. Not roll them back and make it worse, or >>>>>>>redirect investment to tax cuts and roads instead.

    Before the election, ACT promised "care and dignity" to primary care >>>>>>>practitioners. 13% funding per patient was what they said they would >>>>>>>offer to GP practices if they won.

    Fast forward to over a year later.

    New Zealand's GP practices have just been offered 4% in "capitation" >>>>>>>patient funding support from the Government - that's less than >>>>>>>inflation, and well below their cost pressures. The profession said >>>>>>>this could hurt an already struggling sector and force some practices >>>>>>>to close. But they are also being told they can increase patient fees >>>>>>>by nearly 8 per cent to compensate.

    That means, this Coalition Government wants sick New Zealanders to >>>>>>>stump up the extra, with 1% still missing, at a time when cost of >>>>>>>living, and the reinstatement of prescription fees is already hurting >>>>>>>many.

    The consultation process is now underway and as always, we hope the >>>>>>>Government will capitulate to common sense.

    Still how much of all the gifted tax cuts will be eaten up by ongoing >>>>>>>fees caused directly by this same Government?

    Is it any surprise that two more Health NZ Board members have suddenly >>>>>>>and 'surprisingly' quit before their term has ended? That leaves only >>>>>>>2 members left after others opted to opt-out as well.

    Make no mistake, our health system is in crisis. The decisions of the >>>>>>>present count much more than any number of road cones.
    These are not only significant health infrastructure deficits, they >>>>>>>are health system deficits of skill, morale, capacity, and leadership >>>>>>>too.
    Our health system has been in crisis for decades and the last government >>>>>>only
    made it worse.
    You are referring above to a review which is not yet over - so you are >>>>>>making
    shit up until it is complete and you know what they find.
    Move on and find a real problem to bitch about.

    Identify one thing that is made up then . . . .
    Nah, you prove the above accusations. That is the way logic works, I know >>>>that
    you don't work that way but the rest of humanity does.

    You accused me of making shit up - you made the accusation, you prove
    it, Tony.
    No it doesn't work that way. You have not shown any evidence to support your >>original post. Do that and then we are in a position to debate, until then >>you
    are are still making shit up.

    I clearly said that I did not write the material that I posted. I
    believed that it had general interest, and saw nothing that appeared
    untrue. no subsequent posters have identified anything that appears to
    them to not be true.
    If you cannot or do not wish to support a post you have made then you have no right to expect others to support their disagreement with said post. Understood?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 17 07:16:02 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 03:24:08 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:41:08 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:11:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:21:12 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    If there is interest, I will post the source of the following article >>>>>>>>>(I did not wrote it!) >>>>>>>>>___________________________________________________

    Another day, and yet another piece of bad news for New Zealand's >>>>>>>>>health system.

    Reports have come out that General Practitioners (GP) may have to >>>>>>>>>close doors, or increase patient fees to survive. The so-called >>>>>>>>>'capitation' funding review, which supports GP practices to survive, >>>>>>>>>is under way, and primary care practitioners are concerned.

    First, let's do a quick recap to examine our health system landscape >>>>>>>>>since Prime Minister Luxon, Health Minister Shane Reti and Finance >>>>>>>>>Minister Nicola Willis have taken over their porfolios.

    In May, MP for Whangarei, Shane Reti, was selling his Government's >>>>>>>>>health credentials:
    "Our Government has set ambitious targets for the health sector…(Our) >>>>>>>>>budget prioritises frontline health services & workers "
    But just a month earlier, in April, a series of information leaks had >>>>>>>>>already forced Health NZ to confirm it had brought PWC consultants in >>>>>>>>>and were directing all public hospitals to save a total of $105 >>>>>>>>>million by July 2024.

    For example, Auckland was asked to cut $15.5m from its hospitals, >>>>>>>>>Northland $4.5m, Canterbury & South Canterbury $14.5m, Nelson $3m, Bay >>>>>>>>>of Plenty ~$7m etc.

    The directive confirmed "the Government is asking the public sector to >>>>>>>>>make efficiencies to manage significant cost pressures."

    Could this have anything to do with the $12-14bn of tax cuts the >>>>>>>>>National Government was going to gift us all in May?

    The one that Nicola Willis made on the back of public service cuts and >>>>>>>>>lowering beneficiary incomes. The one she then borrowed an additional >>>>>>>>>$12bn for, pushing us into a government debt ratio of ~45% and with a >>>>>>>>>larger budget deficit than any of Grant Robertson's budgets, bar >>>>>>>>>Covid?

    Furthermore, Reti had, as soon as he got into office and through to >>>>>>>>>the budget:
    " Put on indefinite hold the Whangarei hospital re-build despite >>>>>>>>>the previous government's committed funds of $800m to it.
    " Put into limbo Nelson's hospital plans, after plans had >>>>>>>>>already been procured and agreed to for optimal patient care and >>>>>>>>>capacity.
    " Deferred Dunedin hospital investment without a clear timeline, >>>>>>>>>putting into doubt previous National Party promises
    " Did not fund any of the mental health doctors they promised >>>>>>>>>" Funded half of the promised new medical registrars, and trying >>>>>>>>>to blame that decision on the Universities!
    " Broke their promise of funding cancer drugs in the May budget, >>>>>>>>>then spectacularly u-turning after public backlash.
    " Cut funding for the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC) >>>>>>>>>who is already dealing with a 3 year backlog of complaints
    " Cut $381 million in planned digital health investment, after >>>>>>>>>Labour had committed the funds, leaving the health system in a >>>>>>>>>disarray of paper records, and paper trails

    And as Ministers Reti and Willis plugged their budget as being good >>>>>>>>>for healthcare, doctors and medical professionals simultaneously >>>>>>>>>warned:
    This budget leaves our health system treading water, our workforce >>>>>>>>>over-stretched and patients left waiting longer and longer.

    About hospitals again -
    It's been confirmed again this week that frontline hospital roles are >>>>>>>>>going unfilled, amidst Health NZ's budget cuts.

    Don't forget that this austerity doesn't apply to landlords ($3bn over >>>>>>>>>4 years), pothole contractors ($4bn over 3 years), and road build >>>>>>>>>spend ($70bn over 10 years)

    Make no mistake - this is about priorities, not forced austerity. >>>>>>>>>
    Last month, Health NZ denied a hiring freeze despite suddenly freezing >>>>>>>>>new graduate nurse intakes. At a time of critical nursing shortages, >>>>>>>>>it was a bizarre move to not support our home grown graduates and >>>>>>>>>leave them in the lurch like this.

    Health NZ had already ordered an immediate hiring freeze on all >>>>>>>>>non-frontline roles - as if that imaginary line between front-line and >>>>>>>>>non-frontline means anything in practice.

    This week, Whangarei hospital nurses stepped out to warn that >>>>>>>>>conditions for patients and staff in Northland hospitals were >>>>>>>>>deteriorating rapidly. "Eventually somebody will die." They feared >>>>>>>>>Government cutbacks on staffing was affecting patient care and risked >>>>>>>>>lives -

    Hospitals are not the only frontline staff feeling the heat.

    Back to primary care -
    We are in a GP crisis. It's not new. Weeks long waits to see one are >>>>>>>>>common, if access is available at all. General Practitioners >>>>>>>>>Aotearoa's Dr Burrell has said New Zealand's GP-to-patient ratios is >>>>>>>>>"embarrassing". Only 25% of practising doctors now work in primary >>>>>>>>>care, a stark fall from years before.

    The GP body wrote to Health Minister Dr Shane Reti 5 months ago to >>>>>>>>>discuss how to address this crisis.

    Two months after that, Shane Reti showed us how that went. On a >>>>>>>>>segment on Q&A with Jack Tame, he said he didn't include GP targets >>>>>>>>>into his Government's 'ambitious' public service targets, because that >>>>>>>>>was "too hard."

    Once again, this Government demonstrates a keen lack of seriousness >>>>>>>>>and responsibility, instead giving themselves homework that's more >>>>>>>>>suitable for crayons than serious governance.

    I could go on, but let's start to wrap it up.
    In Lower Hutt, National Minister Chris Bishop's electorate, one >>>>>>>>>practice had one GP for over 9000 patients. Today, after a lot of >>>>>>>>>publicity and pressure, they hired a new GP.

    The health system is in crisis, and it will need bold leadership to >>>>>>>>>correct. The previous Government had started a number of those >>>>>>>>>measures, and it is up to the current one to not only advance them, >>>>>>>>>but also improve on it. Not roll them back and make it worse, or >>>>>>>>>redirect investment to tax cuts and roads instead.

    Before the election, ACT promised "care and dignity" to primary care >>>>>>>>>practitioners. 13% funding per patient was what they said they would >>>>>>>>>offer to GP practices if they won.

    Fast forward to over a year later.

    New Zealand's GP practices have just been offered 4% in "capitation" >>>>>>>>>patient funding support from the Government - that's less than >>>>>>>>>inflation, and well below their cost pressures. The profession said >>>>>>>>>this could hurt an already struggling sector and force some practices >>>>>>>>>to close. But they are also being told they can increase patient fees >>>>>>>>>by nearly 8 per cent to compensate.

    That means, this Coalition Government wants sick New Zealanders to >>>>>>>>>stump up the extra, with 1% still missing, at a time when cost of >>>>>>>>>living, and the reinstatement of prescription fees is already hurting >>>>>>>>>many.

    The consultation process is now underway and as always, we hope the >>>>>>>>>Government will capitulate to common sense.

    Still how much of all the gifted tax cuts will be eaten up by ongoing >>>>>>>>>fees caused directly by this same Government?

    Is it any surprise that two more Health NZ Board members have suddenly >>>>>>>>>and 'surprisingly' quit before their term has ended? That leaves only >>>>>>>>>2 members left after others opted to opt-out as well.

    Make no mistake, our health system is in crisis. The decisions of the >>>>>>>>>present count much more than any number of road cones.
    These are not only significant health infrastructure deficits, they >>>>>>>>>are health system deficits of skill, morale, capacity, and leadership >>>>>>>>>too.
    Our health system has been in crisis for decades and the last >>>>>>>>government
    only
    made it worse.
    You are referring above to a review which is not yet over - so you are >>>>>>>>making
    shit up until it is complete and you know what they find.
    Move on and find a real problem to bitch about.

    Identify one thing that is made up then . . . .
    Nah, you prove the above accusations. That is the way logic works, I know >>>>>>that
    you don't work that way but the rest of humanity does.

    You accused me of making shit up - you made the accusation, you prove >>>>>it, Tony.
    No it doesn't work that way. You have not shown any evidence to support >>>>your
    original post. Do that and then we are in a position to debate, until then >>>>you
    are are still making shit up.

    I clearly said that I did not write the material that I posted. I >>>believed that it had general interest, and saw nothing that appeared >>>untrue. no subsequent posters have identified anything that appears to >>>them to not be true.
    If you cannot or do not wish to support a post you have made then you have no >>right to expect others to support their disagreement with said post. >>Understood?

    Nobody has disagreed with any of it - no support would appear to be >necessary.
    That is non-sequitur. Try again.

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