On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:47:11 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
Read this and weep:That is rubbish and you know it. The current government have already
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the
2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this.
made changes that they did not campaign on - that is the reality of government, Crash
ItAnd some of the Ministers in the current Government were in the
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that
government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be >>trusted.
Government defeated by Labour. I am sure that does not significantly
affect the degree of trust New Zealanders should have in them, but
that may depend on your political views.
Read this and weep:That is rubbish and you know it. The current government have already
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the
2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this.
ItAnd some of the Ministers in the current Government were in the
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that
government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be >trusted.
On 2024-07-18, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
Read this and weep:One can not help but ask the question, how many homes for the homeless
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the
2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this. It
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that
government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be
trusted.
would would $1.3 billion provide?
Yes, agreed that the core of Labour is still some what rotten and will need >cutting out at a later stage.
On 2024-07-18, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:47:11 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
Read this and weep:That is rubbish and you know it. The current government have already
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the
2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this.
made changes that they did not campaign on - that is the reality of
government, Crash
ItAnd some of the Ministers in the current Government were in the
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that
government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be >>>trusted.
Government defeated by Labour. I am sure that does not significantly
affect the degree of trust New Zealanders should have in them, but
that may depend on your political views.
That is not Crash's point. It was the previous Labour Government which spent >$1.3 billion without a mandate.
Read this and weep:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the
2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this. It
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that
government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be trusted.
On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:47:11 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>An absolute lie. The current government has done no such thing, the previous one did in spades and in secret.
wrote:
Read this and weep:That is rubbish and you know it. The current government have already
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the
2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this.
made changes that they did not campaign on - that is the reality of >government, Crash
Off topic.ItAnd some of the Ministers in the current Government were in the
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that
government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be >>trusted.
Government defeated by Labour. I am sure that does not significantly
affect the degree of trust New Zealanders should have in them, but
that may depend on your political views.
On 18 Jul 2024 04:40:42 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You are still lying, thsy had no mandate for 3 waters and none for co-governance.
On 2024-07-18, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:47:11 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
Read this and weep:That is rubbish and you know it. The current government have already
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the >>>>2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this.
made changes that they did not campaign on - that is the reality of
government, Crash
ItAnd some of the Ministers in the current Government were in the
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that >>>>government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be >>>>trusted.
Government defeated by Labour. I am sure that does not significantly
affect the degree of trust New Zealanders should have in them, but
that may depend on your political views.
That is not Crash's point. It was the previous Labour Government which spent >>$1.3 billion without a mandate.
Of course they had a mandate!
The current government is spending aOff topic.
small amount of money on work relating to the flooding at Wairau -
they did not campaign on spending that many - do they have a mandate?
A current Minister is proposing to reduce taxes on tobacco products -
that was not promised before the election - does the government have a >mandate?
On 18 Jul 2024 04:45:36 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Off topic.
On 2024-07-18, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
Read this and weep:One can not help but ask the question, how many homes for the homeless >>would would $1.3 billion provide?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the
2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this. It
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that
government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be
trusted.
Yes, agreed that the core of Labour is still some what rotten and will need >>cutting out at a later stage.
The disrespect is by the current government. A lot of that work should
still be useful - instead NAct1st appear to have dropped the issue by
saying it is a local government issue - knowing that most local
authorities do not have the money to do much, and will not even start
work until they have enough money to start - the increase in rates is
likely to be well over $1.3 billion over the whole country; and in the >meantime the government is talking about lowering standards for water
supply . . .
On 18 Jul 2024 04:40:42 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-07-18, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:47:11 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
Read this and weep:That is rubbish and you know it. The current government have already
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the >>>>2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this.
made changes that they did not campaign on - that is the reality of
government, Crash
ItAnd some of the Ministers in the current Government were in the
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that >>>>government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be >>>>trusted.
Government defeated by Labour. I am sure that does not significantly
affect the degree of trust New Zealanders should have in them, but
that may depend on your political views.
That is not Crash's point. It was the previous Labour Government which spent >>$1.3 billion without a mandate.
Of course they had a mandate!
The current government is spending a
small amount of money on work relating to the flooding at Wairau -
they did not campaign on spending that many - do they have a mandate?
A current Minister is proposing to reduce taxes on tobacco products -
that was not promised before the election - does the government have a >mandate?
On 18 Jul 2024 04:40:42 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-07-18, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:47:11 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
Read this and weep:That is rubbish and you know it. The current government have already
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the >>>>2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this.
made changes that they did not campaign on - that is the reality of
government, Crash
ItAnd some of the Ministers in the current Government were in the
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that >>>>government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be >>>>trusted.
Government defeated by Labour. I am sure that does not significantly
affect the degree of trust New Zealanders should have in them, but
that may depend on your political views.
That is not Crash's point. It was the previous Labour Government which spent >>$1.3 billion without a mandate.
Of course they had a mandate!
small amount of money on work relating to the flooding at Wairau -
they did not campaign on spending that many - do they have a mandate?
A current Minister is proposing to reduce taxes on tobacco products -
that was not promised before the election - does the government have a >mandate?
On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 16:43:59 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 18 Jul 2024 04:40:42 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-07-18, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:47:11 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
Read this and weep:That is rubbish and you know it. The current government have already
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the >>>>>2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this.
made changes that they did not campaign on - that is the reality of
government, Crash
ItAnd some of the Ministers in the current Government were in the
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that >>>>>government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be >>>>>trusted.
Government defeated by Labour. I am sure that does not significantly
affect the degree of trust New Zealanders should have in them, but
that may depend on your political views.
That is not Crash's point. It was the previous Labour Government which spent >>>$1.3 billion without a mandate.
Of course they had a mandate!
From where? 3-waters and co-government were not mentioned in the
Labour manifesto published prior to the 2020 election.
The current government is spending a
small amount of money on work relating to the flooding at Wairau -
they did not campaign on spending that many - do they have a mandate?
Have you looked party manifestos and the 2 coalition agreements? Feel
free top be specific.
A current Minister is proposing to reduce taxes on tobacco products -
that was not promised before the election - does the government have a >>mandate?
You might care to take a look at the 2023 NZF manifesto and current
coalition agreement.
On 18 Jul 2024 04:40:42 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-07-18, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:47:11 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
Read this and weep:That is rubbish and you know it. The current government have already
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350333621/down-drain-huge-sums-spent-three-waters-consultants
Now remember that none of this was announced as policy prior to the >>>>2020 election. Labour therefore had no mandate to do any of this.
made changes that they did not campaign on - that is the reality of
government, Crash
ItAnd some of the Ministers in the current Government were in the
is worth remembering that many of the senior ministers in that >>>>government are still in Parliament and that therefore Labour cannot be >>>>trusted.
Government defeated by Labour. I am sure that does not significantly
affect the degree of trust New Zealanders should have in them, but
that may depend on your political views.
That is not Crash's point. It was the previous Labour Government which spent >>$1.3 billion without a mandate.
Of course they had a mandate! The current government is spending a
small amount of money on work relating to the flooding at Wairau -
they did not campaign on spending that many - do they have a mandate?
A current Minister is proposing to reduce taxes on tobacco products -
that was not promised before the election - does the government have a >mandate?
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