On 22 Jul 2024 08:39:28 GMT, Gordon <
Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-07-22, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Who would have thought eh?
https://centrist.co.nz/co2-levels-rise-creating-unexpected-greening-in-worlds-drylands/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=22-7-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
No surprise to those of us who understand the science,
Next point for understanding. Fires are not destructive long term for >forests. The US fire service has now come to undestand this.
Not letting the fire complete the cycle just creates more fuel which nature >will burn off in a wild fire.
And it works well in some places. In the Northern Territory, the
aboriginal people have for centuries managed fires by setting them
themselves - the result being that they can benefit from the regrowth
while avoiding the risks of 'natural' wildfires overcoming their
settlements.
Fire has also been used in some pine forests - after felling timber it
can clear the land, including stumps, to enable easier re-planting
with seedlings. That is however not always suitable, as rain can also
wash ash and unburnt 'slash' into gullies and streams and rivers, and
washing soil from the tops of hills causing erosion - it is not
therefore suitable for steep hill plantations such as many in the
Gisborne area . . .
Then we have New Zealand's native forests - evergreen, with some slow
growing timbers renowned for their use for ships masts, flooring
timber and high quality furniture. Are those the forests where you see
a fire cycle as desirable, Tony and Gordon? What relevance do you
think this article has to New Zealand, and our commitments to reduce
emissions or pay good money under the international commitment we were
signed up to by Paula Bennett all those years ago?
I was intrigued to see that the website no longer names those who
write for it - not surprising really, as it now seems to be biassed
fodder for 'true believers' One of the previous "authors" for the site
has now effectively destroyed his reputation, and there is little
incentive for others to go in that direction.
The article does however point to a far less biassed view on the Yale environment link:
https://e360.yale.edu/features/greening-drylands-carbon-dioxide-climate-change
Most readers will of course not go that far, but if they do they would
see that this article does not indicate that climate change is no
longer a major concern - it clearly is, and the discoveries merely
indicate that climate change is more complex than many of the climate
change deniers would want the public to realise.
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