(quoting) and also, are NOT CONTAGIOUS.” Therefore, “they cannot be
infectious. That rules out the mendacious description of these illnesses as
being caused by submicroscopic, infectious particles called viruses.”
Well that sure does/will change several things in life as we know it. If it >is not virues causing colds what does cause colds?
On 23 Jul 2024 23:18:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
(quoting) and also, are NOT CONTAGIOUS.? Therefore, “they cannot be
infectious. That rules out the mendacious description of these illnesses as >>being caused by submicroscopic, infectious particles called viruses.?
Well that sure does/will change several things in life as we know it. If it >>is not virues causing colds what does cause colds?
When I got covid 2 years ago, about 12 other people in the same room
got it at the same time as me. It was impressively contageous. So
I'm going with viruses until there is a darn good counter-explanation.
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 00:47:37 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:Tptally off topic. This topic is about whether there are such things as viruses, not about what our incompetent government did or did not do. Start your own thread.
On 23 Jul 2024 23:18:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
(quoting) and also, are NOT CONTAGIOUS.? Therefore, “they cannot be
infectious. That rules out the mendacious description of these illnesses as >>>being caused by submicroscopic, infectious particles called viruses.?
Well that sure does/will change several things in life as we know it. If it >>>is not virues causing colds what does cause colds?
When I got covid 2 years ago, about 12 other people in the same room
got it at the same time as me. It was impressively contageous. So
I'm going with viruses until there is a darn good counter-explanation.
The frequent successes in tracking links between those who caught
Covid-19 in the early days of the pandemic in New Zealand were very >convincing, as was the research into the effects on people at
different ages, usefulness of masks, distancing, and the particular
dangers of mass gatherings. New Zealand was also a little behind some
other countries in getting vaccines, but by then we had seen the
benefit of distancing; the government actions that kept businesses
going also meant there was a lower overall expectation of high
economic threats; and by the time vaccines were available some testing >results were available. Many New Zealanders were able to track how the
virus had spread with their own families and people they knew - yes
our isolation and ability to stop most international arrivals gave us
an advantage, but also gave us the time to understand the threat of a >contagious virus.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The whole point of my post was to re-assure you Tony that yes there
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 00:47:37 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:Tptally off topic. This topic is about whether there are such things as >viruses, not about what our incompetent government did or did not do. Start >your own thread.
On 23 Jul 2024 23:18:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>(quoting) and also, are NOT CONTAGIOUS.? Therefore, “they cannot be >>>> infectious. That rules out the mendacious description of these illnesses as
being caused by submicroscopic, infectious particles called viruses.? >>>>
Well that sure does/will change several things in life as we know it. If it >>>>is not virues causing colds what does cause colds?
When I got covid 2 years ago, about 12 other people in the same room
got it at the same time as me. It was impressively contageous. So
I'm going with viruses until there is a darn good counter-explanation.
The frequent successes in tracking links between those who caught
Covid-19 in the early days of the pandemic in New Zealand were very >>convincing, as was the research into the effects on people at
different ages, usefulness of masks, distancing, and the particular
dangers of mass gatherings. New Zealand was also a little behind some >>other countries in getting vaccines, but by then we had seen the
benefit of distancing; the government actions that kept businesses
going also meant there was a lower overall expectation of high
economic threats; and by the time vaccines were available some testing >>results were available. Many New Zealanders were able to track how the >>virus had spread with their own families and people they knew - yes
our isolation and ability to stop most international arrivals gave us
an advantage, but also gave us the time to understand the threat of a >>contagious virus.
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:23:13 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour post is off topic and has no point whatsoever. You don't know whether Viruses exist or not, your scientific and medical bacgrounds are zero.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The whole point of my post was to re-assure you Tony that yes there
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 00:47:37 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:Tptally off topic. This topic is about whether there are such things as >>viruses, not about what our incompetent government did or did not do. Start >>your own thread.
On 23 Jul 2024 23:18:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>(quoting) and also, are NOT CONTAGIOUS.? Therefore, “they cannot be >>>>> infectious. That rules out the mendacious description of these illnesses >>>>>as
being caused by submicroscopic, infectious particles called viruses.? >>>>>
Well that sure does/will change several things in life as we know it. If it
is not virues causing colds what does cause colds?
When I got covid 2 years ago, about 12 other people in the same room >>>>got it at the same time as me. It was impressively contageous. So
I'm going with viruses until there is a darn good counter-explanation.
The frequent successes in tracking links between those who caught >>>Covid-19 in the early days of the pandemic in New Zealand were very >>>convincing, as was the research into the effects on people at
different ages, usefulness of masks, distancing, and the particular >>>dangers of mass gatherings. New Zealand was also a little behind some >>>other countries in getting vaccines, but by then we had seen the
benefit of distancing; the government actions that kept businesses
going also meant there was a lower overall expectation of high
economic threats; and by the time vaccines were available some testing >>>results were available. Many New Zealanders were able to track how the >>>virus had spread with their own families and people they knew - yes
our isolation and ability to stop most international arrivals gave us
an advantage, but also gave us the time to understand the threat of a >>>contagious virus.
are viruses, and there have been no denials of that reality from any
credible scientist or government. Now other countries and other
languages may use a different term, or even more than one term to
describe the same things - and indeed not all viruses are the same,
but that they exist has been made abundantly clear in New Zealand
recent history for there to be no doubt that as far as nz.general is >concerned, anyone denying their existence must be considered as
attempting to be misleading or of deliberate obfuscation for their own >motives.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:23:13 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour post is off topic and has no point whatsoever. You don't know whether >Viruses exist or not, your scientific and medical bacgrounds are zero.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The whole point of my post was to re-assure you Tony that yes there
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 00:47:37 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:Tptally off topic. This topic is about whether there are such things as >>>viruses, not about what our incompetent government did or did not do. Start >>>your own thread.
On 23 Jul 2024 23:18:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>(quoting) and also, are NOT CONTAGIOUS.? Therefore, “they cannot be >>>>>> infectious. That rules out the mendacious description of these illnesses >>>>>>asThe frequent successes in tracking links between those who caught >>>>Covid-19 in the early days of the pandemic in New Zealand were very >>>>convincing, as was the research into the effects on people at
being caused by submicroscopic, infectious particles called viruses.? >>>>>>
Well that sure does/will change several things in life as we know it. If it
is not virues causing colds what does cause colds?
When I got covid 2 years ago, about 12 other people in the same room >>>>>got it at the same time as me. It was impressively contageous. So >>>>>I'm going with viruses until there is a darn good counter-explanation. >>>>
different ages, usefulness of masks, distancing, and the particular >>>>dangers of mass gatherings. New Zealand was also a little behind some >>>>other countries in getting vaccines, but by then we had seen the >>>>benefit of distancing; the government actions that kept businesses >>>>going also meant there was a lower overall expectation of high
economic threats; and by the time vaccines were available some testing >>>>results were available. Many New Zealanders were able to track how the >>>>virus had spread with their own families and people they knew - yes
our isolation and ability to stop most international arrivals gave us >>>>an advantage, but also gave us the time to understand the threat of a >>>>contagious virus.
are viruses, and there have been no denials of that reality from any >>credible scientist or government. Now other countries and other
languages may use a different term, or even more than one term to
describe the same things - and indeed not all viruses are the same,
but that they exist has been made abundantly clear in New Zealand
recent history for there to be no doubt that as far as nz.general is >>concerned, anyone denying their existence must be considered as
attempting to be misleading or of deliberate obfuscation for their own >>motives.
On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 01:32:52 -0000 (UTC), TonyAbuse gone.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:23:13 -0000 (UTC), TonyYour post is off topic and has no point whatsoever. You don't know whether >>Viruses exist or not, your scientific and medical bacgrounds are zero.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:The whole point of my post was to re-assure you Tony that yes there
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 00:47:37 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:Tptally off topic. This topic is about whether there are such things as >>>>viruses, not about what our incompetent government did or did not do. >>>>Start
On 23 Jul 2024 23:18:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>(quoting) and also, are NOT CONTAGIOUS.? Therefore, “they cannot be >>>>>>> infectious. That rules out the mendacious description of these >>>>>>>illnessesThe frequent successes in tracking links between those who caught >>>>>Covid-19 in the early days of the pandemic in New Zealand were very >>>>>convincing, as was the research into the effects on people at >>>>>different ages, usefulness of masks, distancing, and the particular >>>>>dangers of mass gatherings. New Zealand was also a little behind some >>>>>other countries in getting vaccines, but by then we had seen the >>>>>benefit of distancing; the government actions that kept businesses >>>>>going also meant there was a lower overall expectation of high >>>>>economic threats; and by the time vaccines were available some testing >>>>>results were available. Many New Zealanders were able to track how the >>>>>virus had spread with their own families and people they knew - yes >>>>>our isolation and ability to stop most international arrivals gave us >>>>>an advantage, but also gave us the time to understand the threat of a >>>>>contagious virus.
as
being caused by submicroscopic, infectious particles called viruses.? >>>>>>>
Well that sure does/will change several things in life as we know it. If >>>>>>>it
is not virues causing colds what does cause colds?
When I got covid 2 years ago, about 12 other people in the same room >>>>>>got it at the same time as me. It was impressively contageous. So >>>>>>I'm going with viruses until there is a darn good counter-explanation. >>>>>
your own thread.
are viruses, and there have been no denials of that reality from any >>>credible scientist or government. Now other countries and other
languages may use a different term, or even more than one term to >>>describe the same things - and indeed not all viruses are the same,
but that they exist has been made abundantly clear in New Zealand
recent history for there to be no doubt that as far as nz.general is >>>concerned, anyone denying their existence must be considered as >>>attempting to be misleading or of deliberate obfuscation for their own >>>motives.
I would be happy to hear about your scientific and medical
qualifications, but more on topic would be a statement by any suitably >qualified person or government giving reasons why they believe that
viruses do not exist.
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