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    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 6 22:35:27 2024
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    Or does it? https://centrist.co.nz/speed-kills-or-does-it/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=6-9-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
    It has been clear for a long time that speed is not onviously such a major factor, observing the way that others drive is a learning experience and not a pretty one.
    I rarely exceed the speed limit and am well aware of anger, aggression and impatience on the road.
    Perhaps we should concentrate on alcohol abuse, following distances, competence and attention.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Sat Sep 7 00:14:27 2024
    On 2024-09-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Or does it? https://centrist.co.nz/speed-kills-or-does-it/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=6-9-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
    It has been clear for a long time that speed is not onviously such a major factor, observing the way that others drive is a learning experience and not a
    pretty one.
    I rarely exceed the speed limit and am well aware of anger, aggression and impatience on the road.
    Perhaps we should concentrate on alcohol abuse, following distances, competence
    and attention.

    This Speed kills arguement have never resinated with me. If this was the
    case why do we have motorways? Sure there are alot less exits and entries
    and no traffic that go across your path.

    The real question is, given the conditions what is a safe speed to drive?
    (and why?) Often driving at the legal limit will be driving in an unsafe manner.

    We do need to get a culture of the road is shared now we have to drive in
    such a way that no one gets killed or injured. Accept the fact that people
    make mistakes, and this is not an reason for a bout of road rage.

    This whole subject is complex and the one solgan approach does not work in
    the same way the "If you drink don't drive" did.

    We have to remember that this are days of woke, times when ideal logical thinking rules the way of thinking. All these speed sign reduction are a part of this one ieda to rule them all.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sat Sep 7 13:03:35 2024
    On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:35:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Or does it? >https://centrist.co.nz/speed-kills-or-does-it/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=6-9-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
    It has been clear for a long time that speed is not onviously such a major >factor, observing the way that others drive is a learning experience and not a >pretty one.
    I rarely exceed the speed limit and am well aware of anger, aggression and >impatience on the road.
    Perhaps we should concentrate on alcohol abuse, following distances, competence
    and attention.

    The justification for excessive use of speed limits as an indicator of
    'safe' speed is also limited. There has never been a 'safe' speed
    limit, but in the past we had simple blanket limits - 50/70/100 Km/h.
    Most urban roads were 50 and most rural roads were 100.

    We need to get back to this. Speed limits exist so that those
    traveling above the limit can be charged with speeding if they do not
    meet the 'dangerous driving' criteria. 'Dangerous driving' can occur
    at any speed, including when the driver is going slower than the
    applicable speed limit. Speed limits are not an indicator that the
    roads they cover can be driven safely at that limit.


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    Crash McBash

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