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Maybe we should reduce the stigma attached to murder, rape and torture of children while we are at it. What a crock and a waste of my money.
Why would we want to reduce the stigma attached to such behaviour or tendencies? Perhaps we should find ways to increase the stigma instead.

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On 2024-09-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

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Maybe we should reduce the stigma attached to murder, rape and torture of children while we are at it. What a crock and a waste of my money.
Why would we want to reduce the stigma attached to such behaviour or tendencies? Perhaps we should find ways to increase the stigma instead.

From the reading of the comments it appears that many people agree with
these lines of thinking.

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On 7 Sep 2024 02:19:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2024-09-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://centrist.co.nz/victoria-university-of-wellington-studying-ways-to-reduce-stigma-towards-people-with-paedophilic-tendencies/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=6-9-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
Maybe we should reduce the stigma attached to murder, rape and torture of
children while we are at it. What a crock and a waste of my money.
Why would we want to reduce the stigma attached to such behaviour or
tendencies? Perhaps we should find ways to increase the stigma instead.

From the reading of the comments it appears that many people agree with
these lines of thinking.

While most people like to see that their views are shared with others,
let us also celebrate the policies of one of the parties in parliament
that celebrates a divergence of views, and does not hold with
requiring "group-think" from its supporters. But I agree with those
that see paedophilia as abhorrent - if a survey can help find a way to
convince those with such thoughts to avoid situations where they may
break the law so much the better.

I have no wish to get involved with understanding people with mental
illnesses, and how to get them to be able to control abhorrent
behaviours, but I am glad that someone is working on such matters.
That is what true Freedom requires.

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 7 Sep 2024 02:19:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2024-09-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://centrist.co.nz/victoria-university-of-wellington-studying-ways-to-reduce-stigma-towards-people-with-paedophilic-tendencies/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=6-9-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg

Maybe we should reduce the stigma attached to murder, rape and torture of >>> children while we are at it. What a crock and a waste of my money.
Why would we want to reduce the stigma attached to such behaviour or
tendencies? Perhaps we should find ways to increase the stigma instead.

From the reading of the comments it appears that many people agree with >>these lines of thinking.

While most people like to see that their views are shared with others,
let us also celebrate the policies of one of the parties in parliament
that celebrates a divergence of views, and does not hold with
requiring "group-think" from its supporters.

Agreed, and very well led by the PM.

But I agree with those
that see paedophilia as abhorrent - if a survey can help find a way to >convince those with such thoughts to avoid situations where they may
break the law so much the better.

The survey has no such intent, if you read it I am sure you will agree.

I have no wish to get involved with understanding people with mental >illnesses, and how to get them to be able to control abhorrent
behaviours, but I am glad that someone is working on such matters.
That is what true Freedom requires.

And that is not the purpose of the survey.

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:37:03 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 7 Sep 2024 02:19:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2024-09-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://centrist.co.nz/victoria-university-of-wellington-studying-ways-to-reduce-stigma-towards-people-with-paedophilic-tendencies/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=6-9-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg

Maybe we should reduce the stigma attached to murder, rape and torture of >>>> children while we are at it. What a crock and a waste of my money.
Why would we want to reduce the stigma attached to such behaviour or
tendencies? Perhaps we should find ways to increase the stigma instead. >>>

From the reading of the comments it appears that many people agree with >>>these lines of thinking.

While most people like to see that their views are shared with others,
let us also celebrate the policies of one of the parties in parliament
that celebrates a divergence of views, and does not hold with
requiring "group-think" from its supporters.

Agreed, and very well led by the PM.

Wrong party, Tony. National is the party of double standards -
Simeon's speed limits being a good recent example - he is putting up
local speed limits without evidence that they will benefit the local
areas, and insisting that local councils pay for investigations to put
them back down again. They are the party that has told Councils that
they must either do away with Maori wards or pay for a binding
referendum to keep them. But they do know who is in charge - Luxon got
rolled on the coalition agreements and Seymour and Peters are in
charge . . .

But I agree with those
that see paedophilia as abhorrent - if a survey can help find a way to >>convince those with such thoughts to avoid situations where they may
break the law so much the better.

The survey has no such intent, if you read it I am sure you will agree.

I have no wish to get involved with understanding people with mental >>illnesses, and how to get them to be able to control abhorrent
behaviours, but I am glad that someone is working on such matters.
That is what true Freedom requires.

And that is not the purpose of the survey.

So you don't believe in Freedom?

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On 2024-09-07, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 7 Sep 2024 02:19:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2024-09-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://centrist.co.nz/victoria-university-of-wellington-studying-ways-to-reduce-stigma-towards-people-with-paedophilic-tendencies/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=6-9-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg

Maybe we should reduce the stigma attached to murder, rape and torture of >>>> children while we are at it. What a crock and a waste of my money.
Why would we want to reduce the stigma attached to such behaviour or
tendencies? Perhaps we should find ways to increase the stigma instead. >>>

From the reading of the comments it appears that many people agree with >>>these lines of thinking.

While most people like to see that their views are shared with others,
let us also celebrate the policies of one of the parties in parliament
that celebrates a divergence of views, and does not hold with
requiring "group-think" from its supporters.

Democracy is about debate of ideas among other things, and for the MPs to represent the people. Personally I think the present Government is a
relection of the public opinion.

It would be better if the Greens/Labour/Maori side could keep the Government honest (and Stuff not having brain fades every edition)

Agreed, and very well led by the PM.

But I agree with those
that see paedophilia as abhorrent - if a survey can help find a way to >>convince those with such thoughts to avoid situations where they may
break the law so much the better.

The survey has no such intent, if you read it I am sure you will agree.

I have no wish to get involved with understanding people with mental >>illnesses, and how to get them to be able to control abhorrent
behaviours, but I am glad that someone is working on such matters.
That is what true Freedom requires.

And that is not the purpose of the survey.

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:37:03 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 7 Sep 2024 02:19:32 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2024-09-06, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

https://centrist.co.nz/victoria-university-of-wellington-studying-ways-to-reduce-stigma-towards-people-with-paedophilic-tendencies/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=6-9-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg

Maybe we should reduce the stigma attached to murder, rape and torture of >>>>> children while we are at it. What a crock and a waste of my money.
Why would we want to reduce the stigma attached to such behaviour or >>>>> tendencies? Perhaps we should find ways to increase the stigma instead. >>>>

From the reading of the comments it appears that many people agree with >>>>these lines of thinking.

While most people like to see that their views are shared with others, >>>let us also celebrate the policies of one of the parties in parliament >>>that celebrates a divergence of views, and does not hold with
requiring "group-think" from its supporters.

Agreed, and very well led by the PM.

Wrong party, Tony. National is the party of double standards -

No that is a lie.

Simeon's

At least you didn't deliberately mangle his name this time, a really nasty little habit of yours.

speed limits being a good recent example - he is putting up
local speed limits without evidence that they will benefit the local
areas, and insisting that local councils pay for investigations to put
them back down again.

Nope, they (not he, you fool) are correcting the stupidity of the Hipkins reduction in limits.

They are the party that has told Councils that
they must either do away with Maori wards or pay for a binding
referendum to keep them. But they do know who is in charge - Luxon got
rolled on the coalition agreements and Seymour and Peters are in
charge . . .

You wish - but you are as usual wrong.

But I agree with those
that see paedophilia as abhorrent - if a survey can help find a way to >>>convince those with such thoughts to avoid situations where they may >>>break the law so much the better.

The survey has no such intent, if you read it I am sure you will agree.

I have no wish to get involved with understanding people with mental >>>illnesses, and how to get them to be able to control abhorrent >>>behaviours, but I am glad that someone is working on such matters.
That is what true Freedom requires.

And that is not the purpose of the survey.

So you don't believe in Freedom?

So you are an insulting little bugger, I believe in it infinitely more than you do.

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