• Cathay Pacific joins the other two

    From Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 23 22:41:19 2024
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/350426780/couple-gets-life-ban-flying-cathay-pacific-because-row-over-reclining-seat

    Once again good to see that anti social behaviour results in concequences.
    We do not want you distrubution on board so please do no ask for a ticket.

    An interesting statistic in the article

    More than a quarter (27%) believe it’s your right as a paying passenger to recline whenever you choose, while a slightly smaller number (26%) said no
    to reclining altogether."

    Why do those 27% not understand that this reclining issue is not about you rights as a paying passanger but rather about doing to others as you would
    have them done unto you.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to Gordon on Tue Sep 24 12:03:34 2024
    On 23 Sep 2024 22:41:19 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/350426780/couple-gets-life-ban-flying-cathay-pacific-because-row-over-reclining-seat

    Once again good to see that anti social behaviour results in concequences.
    We do not want you distrubution on board so please do no ask for a ticket.

    An interesting statistic in the article

    More than a quarter (27%) believe it’s your right as a paying passenger to >recline whenever you choose, while a slightly smaller number (26%) said no
    to reclining altogether."

    Why do those 27% not understand that this reclining issue is not about you >rights as a paying passanger but rather about doing to others as you would >have them done unto you.

    There are 2 solutions to this problem that are never mentioned.

    One is to used fixed seating - no reclining available. This would
    appeal to everyone who does not like others reclining their seat.

    Option 2 is to disable the recline control during meal service. This
    would only require that recline controls be electrically operated and
    centrally switched.

    I an only conclude that airlines do not consider the problem to be big
    enough to adopt either solution.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 24 16:01:14 2024
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 12:03:34 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 23 Sep 2024 22:41:19 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/350426780/couple-gets-life-ban-flying-cathay-pacific-because-row-over-reclining-seat

    Once again good to see that anti social behaviour results in concequences. >>We do not want you distrubution on board so please do no ask for a ticket.

    An interesting statistic in the article

    More than a quarter (27%) believe it’s your right as a paying passenger to >>recline whenever you choose, while a slightly smaller number (26%) said no >>to reclining altogether."

    Why do those 27% not understand that this reclining issue is not about you >>rights as a paying passanger but rather about doing to others as you would >>have them done unto you.

    I suspect that the "no to reclining altogether" are about as
    intolerant as to 27% group - meaning that over half are fairly
    intolerant of other passengers. No wonder the airlines have problems;
    but my experience is that most are prepared to compromise at least to
    a certain extent. It is normal to have seats upright for meals - again
    I have not seen significant problems with that.


    There are 2 solutions to this problem that are never mentioned.

    One is to used fixed seating - no reclining available. This would
    appeal to everyone who does not like others reclining their seat.

    I have found that, contrary to that survey, most people are happy to
    have the person in front recline at least a small distance - and
    especially when lights are turned off during a "night" flight. It is
    the extreme recliners that cause problems, especially if seat distance
    is bad - I recall a British Airways flight when I was in the back of a
    section and unable to recline, and my knees could not go straight
    forward sue to seat pitch - we always checked seat pitch after that.


    Option 2 is to disable the recline control during meal service. This
    would only require that recline controls be electrically operated and >centrally switched.
    I agree this would fix the problem, and I suspect cause little fuss,
    and could be used for some arguments outside meal service time.

    I an only conclude that airlines do not consider the problem to be big
    enough to adopt either solution.
    I agree - as the article says, saving weight is very important -
    non-reclining seats may become the norm . . .

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