Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350433126/speed-limit-reductions-reversing-back-2019-transport-minister-saysI do not recall ever seeing published results from such a poll - was
Unike Wales some common sense has prevailed. Let us hope that it remains >>that way and we do not go the Welsh way.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13892495/Tories-lose-bid-reverse-20mph-limit-Wales-remain.html
The (NZ) government consulted with the people on the change back and found >>that 65% where fed up with the current 30 km/hr speed limits.
This issue certainly gives the lie to Simeon Brown's unsupported claim (otherwise known as a political lie) of 'blanket' speed limit
For the record, lower speed zones outside schools during pick up and drop of >>is another matter and one I think would be endorsed by the public.
You may not like it, but Simeon Brown is part of this Government . . .Except there is no far right in this government.
So we have 9 months to go to get back to the future. I can hear the Left >>leaning folks howling against this decision because that it it is the Far >>right which have done it.
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 01:00:08 -0000 (UTC), TonyWho are you talking to? Address your replies to the poster. Stop being an ass. >>>
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350433126/speed-limit-reductions-reversing-back-2019-transport-minister-saysI do not recall ever seeing published results from such a poll - was
Unike Wales some common sense has prevailed. Let us hope that it remains >>>that way and we do not go the Welsh way.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13892495/Tories-lose-bid-reverse-20mph-limit-Wales-remain.html
The (NZ) government consulted with the people on the change back and found >>>that 65% where fed up with the current 30 km/hr speed limits.
it yet another dodgy Curia Poll with a question about speed limits
added to a lot of other NAct supporting questions from 1000 'random'
people?
Who are you talking to? Address your replies to the poster. Stop being an ass.This issue certainly gives the lie to Simeon Brown's unsupported claim >(otherwise known as a political lie) of 'blanket' speed limitFor the record, lower speed zones outside schools during pick up and drop of >>>is another matter and one I think would be endorsed by the public.
reductions - the "Back to 2019" decision is however certainly a
'blanket' decision - it applies one demand in place of many different >decision in local areas regarding speed limits in their area. In an
area that I am closest to, the Council did a good job of consultation
that resulted in a 30 kph area extending from one side of the local
school for about 400 metres to the other side of a small shopping area
that had suffered through difficult parking and danger using a
pedestrian crossing - the slightly longer 30kph area that resulted
from the survey pleased local businesses by making it easier for
customers to park and then leave again, safer for pedestrians, and
good for business - and school traffic patrol was also easier - they
had at least one car going through the controlled crossing before and
after school each week, and that has stopped. In a nearby suburb, a
small shopping area where a pedestrian had been killed on a pedestrian >crossing some years ago and the then Council had agreed to calls for a >restricted (30kph) area - well before 2019, but bizarrely apparently
National are insisting that the 30kph limit in that area also goes up
to 50 kph. So we have a "Blanket" decision made by the National
(party) Transport Minister that over-rides local decisions made by
local Council in conjunction with consultation and requests from local >residents. Authoritarian? Yes. "Far Right" Authoritarian? Yes. Simeon
is wielding power just because he has found out he can. He does not
care about local decisionsbing made by Local Councils - he is the
Minister of Local Government, and no matter who local people have
voted for, he is their "little Hitler" - and he will make decisions
for them.
And is certainly not far right so your reponse is non sequitur but it is idiotic.You may not like it, but Simeon Brown is part of this Government.Except there is no far right in this government.
So we have 9 months to go to get back to the future. I can hear the Left >>>leaning folks howling against this decision because that it it is the Far >>>right which have done it.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:trying to get away from the Subject of the thread, Tony - this is a
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 01:00:08 -0000 (UTC), TonyWho are you talking to? Address your replies to the poster. Stop being an ass. I was responding to the post immediately above my comment - stop
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350433126/speed-limit-reductions-reversing-back-2019-transport-minister-saysI do not recall ever seeing published results from such a poll - was
Unike Wales some common sense has prevailed. Let us hope that it remains >>>>that way and we do not go the Welsh way.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13892495/Tories-lose-bid-reverse-20mph-limit-Wales-remain.html
The (NZ) government consulted with the people on the change back and found >>>>that 65% where fed up with the current 30 km/hr speed limits.
it yet another dodgy Curia Poll with a question about speed limits
added to a lot of other NAct supporting questions from 1000 'random' >>people?
Who are you talking to? Address your replies to the poster. Stop being an ass. >>This issue certainly gives the lie to Simeon Brown's unsupported claim >>(otherwise known as a political lie) of 'blanket' speed limit
For the record, lower speed zones outside schools during pick up and drop of
is another matter and one I think would be endorsed by the public.
reductions - the "Back to 2019" decision is however certainly a
'blanket' decision - it applies one demand in place of many different >>decision in local areas regarding speed limits in their area. In an
area that I am closest to, the Council did a good job of consultation
that resulted in a 30 kph area extending from one side of the local
school for about 400 metres to the other side of a small shopping area
that had suffered through difficult parking and danger using a
pedestrian crossing - the slightly longer 30kph area that resulted
from the survey pleased local businesses by making it easier for
customers to park and then leave again, safer for pedestrians, and
good for business - and school traffic patrol was also easier - they
had at least one car going through the controlled crossing before and
after school each week, and that has stopped. In a nearby suburb, a
small shopping area where a pedestrian had been killed on a pedestrian >>crossing some years ago and the then Council had agreed to calls for a >>restricted (30kph) area - well before 2019, but bizarrely apparently >>National are insisting that the 30kph limit in that area also goes up
to 50 kph. So we have a "Blanket" decision made by the National
(party) Transport Minister that over-rides local decisions made by
local Council in conjunction with consultation and requests from local >>residents. Authoritarian? Yes. "Far Right" Authoritarian? Yes. Simeon
is wielding power just because he has found out he can. He does not
care about local decisionsbing made by Local Councils - he is the
Minister of Local Government, and no matter who local people have
voted for, he is their "little Hitler" - and he will make decisions
for them.
And is certainly not far right so your reponse is non sequitur but it is >idiotic.You may not like it, but Simeon Brown is part of this Government.Except there is no far right in this government.
So we have 9 months to go to get back to the future. I can hear the Left >>>>leaning folks howling against this decision because that it it is the Far >>>>right which have done it.
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 23:37:52 -0000 (UTC), TonyNothing whatsoever to do with "group discussion". You were reponding to an individual.You were responding to a post that I did not make. That is rude, stupid and fits your pesonaluty perfectly.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I was responding to the post immediately above my comment - stop
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 01:00:08 -0000 (UTC), TonyWho are you talking to? Address your replies to the poster. Stop being an ass.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350433126/speed-limit-reductions-reversing-back-2019-transport-minister-saysI do not recall ever seeing published results from such a poll - was
Unike Wales some common sense has prevailed. Let us hope that it remains >>>>>that way and we do not go the Welsh way.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13892495/Tories-lose-bid-reverse-20mph-limit-Wales-remain.html
The (NZ) government consulted with the people on the change back and found >>>>>that 65% where fed up with the current 30 km/hr speed limits.
it yet another dodgy Curia Poll with a question about speed limits
added to a lot of other NAct supporting questions from 1000 'random' >>>people?
trying to get away from the Subject of the thread, Tony - this is a
group discussion.
Who are you talking to? Address your replies to the poster. Stop being an ass.This issue certainly gives the lie to Simeon Brown's unsupported claim >>>(otherwise known as a political lie) of 'blanket' speed limit
For the record, lower speed zones outside schools during pick up and drop >>>>>of
is another matter and one I think would be endorsed by the public.
reductions - the "Back to 2019" decision is however certainly a
'blanket' decision - it applies one demand in place of many different >>>decision in local areas regarding speed limits in their area. In an
area that I am closest to, the Council did a good job of consultation >>>that resulted in a 30 kph area extending from one side of the local >>>school for about 400 metres to the other side of a small shopping area >>>that had suffered through difficult parking and danger using a
pedestrian crossing - the slightly longer 30kph area that resulted
from the survey pleased local businesses by making it easier for >>>customers to park and then leave again, safer for pedestrians, and
good for business - and school traffic patrol was also easier - they
had at least one car going through the controlled crossing before and >>>after school each week, and that has stopped. In a nearby suburb, a
small shopping area where a pedestrian had been killed on a pedestrian >>>crossing some years ago and the then Council had agreed to calls for a >>>restricted (30kph) area - well before 2019, but bizarrely apparently >>>National are insisting that the 30kph limit in that area also goes up
to 50 kph. So we have a "Blanket" decision made by the National
(party) Transport Minister that over-rides local decisions made by
local Council in conjunction with consultation and requests from local >>>residents. Authoritarian? Yes. "Far Right" Authoritarian? Yes. Simeon
is wielding power just because he has found out he can. He does not
care about local decisionsbing made by Local Councils - he is the >>>Minister of Local Government, and no matter who local people have
voted for, he is their "little Hitler" - and he will make decisions
for them.
And is certainly not far right so your reponse is non sequitur but it is >>idiotic.
You may not like it, but Simeon Brown is part of this Government.Except there is no far right in this government.
So we have 9 months to go to get back to the future. I can hear the Left >>>>>leaning folks howling against this decision because that it it is the Far >>>>>right which have done it.
Unike Wales some common sense has prevailed. Let us hope that it remainsExcept there is no far right in this government.
that way and we do not go the Welsh way.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13892495/Tories-lose-bid-reverse-20mph-limit-Wales-remain.html
The (NZ) government consulted with the people on the change back and found >that 65% where fed up with the current 30 km/hr speed limits.
For the record, lower speed zones outside schools during pick up and drop of >is another matter and one I think would be endorsed by the public.
So we have 9 months to go to get back to the future. I can hear the Left >leaning folks howling against this decision because that it it is the Far >right which have done it.
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