• Climate change

    From Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 28 21:57:53 2024
    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/09/20/the-real-climate-change-deniers-are-those-who-deny-the-climate-changed-before-we-started-burning-fossil-fuels-says-geologist/

    From the article


    "While normally most people would oppose a government plan to interfere more in their lives, now people are being swayed because it is supposedly about saving the planet. “This is the perfect tool for government to interject itself into people’s lives. What you buy, what you eat, what you drive, where you shop, the type of job you have, the type of furniture you buy, where you recreate,” Wielicki adds. The climate, he says, is like a front, a Trojan horse for building a system like socialism."

    It also goes into other aspects of the so called climate emergency. A worthwhile read.

    It is really another article (voice) to the call to "Its all a scam". The climate always has changed.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Sep 29 12:31:07 2024
    On 28 Sep 2024 21:57:53 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/09/20/the-real-climate-change-deniers-are-those-who-deny-the-climate-changed-before-we-started-burning-fossil-fuels-says-geologist/

    From the article


    "While normally most people would oppose a government plan to interfere more in
    their lives, now people are being swayed because it is supposedly about saving >the planet. This is the perfect tool for government to interject itself into >peoples lives. What you buy, what you eat, what you drive, where you shop, >the type of job you have, the type of furniture you buy, where you recreate, >Wielicki adds. The climate, he says, is like a front, a Trojan horse for >building a system like socialism."

    It also goes into other aspects of the so called climate emergency. A >worthwhile read.

    It is really another article (voice) to the call to "Its all a scam". The >climate always has changed.

    So now we are to assess scientific proof from a survey of
    non-scientists! Certainly our current government does not believe
    that - they get all the "Truth" they and their financial backers want
    from a Coalition Agreement and Ministerial appointments . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 28 23:43:44 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 28 Sep 2024 21:57:53 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/09/20/the-real-climate-change-deniers-are-those-who-deny-the-climate-changed-before-we-started-burning-fossil-fuels-says-geologist/

    From the article


    "While normally most people would oppose a government plan to interfere more >>in
    their lives, now people are being swayed because it is supposedly about >>saving
    the planet. This is the perfect tool for government to interject itself into >>peoples lives. What you buy, what you eat, what you drive, where you shop, >>the type of job you have, the type of furniture you buy, where you recreate, >>Wielicki adds. The climate, he says, is like a front, a Trojan horse for >>building a system like socialism."

    It also goes into other aspects of the so called climate emergency. A >>worthwhile read.

    It is really another article (voice) to the call to "Its all a scam". The >>climate always has changed.

    So now we are to assess scientific proof from a survey of
    non-scientists! Certainly our current government does not believe
    that - they get all the "Truth" they and their financial backers want
    from a Coalition Agreement and Ministerial appointments . . .
    Nonsense. Off topic. Political rhetoric.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 30 10:33:58 2024
    On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 12:31:07 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 28 Sep 2024 21:57:53 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/09/20/the-real-climate-change-deniers-are-those-who-deny-the-climate-changed-before-we-started-burning-fossil-fuels-says-geologist/

    From the article


    "While normally most people would oppose a government plan to interfere more in
    their lives, now people are being swayed because it is supposedly about saving
    the planet. This is the perfect tool for government to interject itself into >>peoples lives. What you buy, what you eat, what you drive, where you shop, >>the type of job you have, the type of furniture you buy, where you recreate, >>Wielicki adds. The climate, he says, is like a front, a Trojan horse for >>building a system like socialism."

    It also goes into other aspects of the so called climate emergency. A >>worthwhile read.

    It is really another article (voice) to the call to "Its all a scam". The >>climate always has changed.

    So now we are to assess scientific proof from a survey of
    non-scientists!

    Fair comment and on-topic.

    Certainly our current government does not believe
    that - they get all the "Truth" they and their financial backers want
    from a Coalition Agreement and Ministerial appointments . . .

    A blatant example of how you wander off topic Rich. This is a thread
    about climate change and the OP (Gordon) made no mention of any NZ
    Government.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 2 19:09:43 2025
    XPost: nz.politics

    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/12/28/recent-temperature-falls-likely-to-put-a-dampener-on-hottest-year-evah-stories/
    Wow, look. It is changing, who would have thought?
    However, sea temperatures are cooling not heating. But it is a change eh? Been going on for millenia, and will always do so.
    There is no climate emergency, just a money and power driven greed.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Jan 3 01:55:56 2025
    On 2025-01-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/12/28/recent-temperature-falls-likely-to-put-a-dampener-on-hottest-year-evah-stories/
    Wow, look. It is changing, who would have thought?
    However, sea temperatures are cooling not heating.

    There is a theory that the Gulf Stream might slow down and stop. Also the oceans will "turn over" and this will bring the cold water to the top along with the CO2 within it.

    But it is a change eh? Been
    going on for millenia, and will always do so.
    There is no climate emergency, just a money and power driven greed.

    Totally the case.

    The chart in the comments is an interesting one. A one pager to show the
    masses what will happen. Enjoy.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Jan 5 11:30:16 2025
    On 3 Jan 2025 01:55:56 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2025-01-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/12/28/recent-temperature-falls-likely-to-put-a-dampener-on-hottest-year-evah-stories/
    Wow, look. It is changing, who would have thought?
    However, sea temperatures are cooling not heating.

    Melting ice at the Antarctic is cooling sea temperatures in our part
    of the world, but they are heating in some places around the world as
    air temperatures are generally rising.

    The link you give is not a reliable source for scientific evidence.


    There is a theory that the Gulf Stream might slow down and stop. Also the >oceans will "turn over" and this will bring the cold water to the top along >with the CO2 within it.

    But it is a change eh? Been
    going on for millenia, and will always do so.
    There is no climate emergency, just a money and power driven greed.

    Totally the case.

    The chart in the comments is an interesting one. A one pager to show the >masses what will happen. Enjoy.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Jan 5 01:24:17 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 3 Jan 2025 01:55:56 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2025-01-02, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/12/28/recent-temperature-falls-likely-to-put-a-dampener-on-hottest-year-evah-stories/
    Wow, look. It is changing, who would have thought?
    However, sea temperatures are cooling not heating.

    Melting ice at the Antarctic is cooling sea temperatures in our part
    of the world, but they are heating in some places around the world as
    air temperatures are generally rising.

    The link you give is not a reliable source for scientific evidence.
    You have never provide any scientific evidence on this topic, just rhetoric. Do try to keep up with your betters.


    There is a theory that the Gulf Stream might slow down and stop. Also the >>oceans will "turn over" and this will bring the cold water to the top along >>with the CO2 within it.

    But it is a change eh? Been
    going on for millenia, and will always do so.
    There is no climate emergency, just a money and power driven greed.

    Totally the case.

    The chart in the comments is an interesting one. A one pager to show the >>masses what will happen. Enjoy.

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