• Whoop de doo

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 13 10:33:13 2024
    1. Dunedin's mitigated flood risk prevention plan.
    "I haven't seen advice on that and am not aware of that," he said,
    despite his coalition rejecting it earlier this year.
    Christopher Luxon sidesteps questions on declined Dunedin flood risk
    mitigation plan

    2. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part I
    "I haven't seen the stories. In fairness, I need to be able to have
    that before I have any further comment."

    3. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part II
    Eight months later, Luxon still hasn't seen the advice Costello used
    to cut excise tax on Heated Tobacco Products by 50%
    Here's Guyon Espiner grilling Luxon on his government, setting aside
    $216 million to cut taxes on Heated Tobacco Products by 50% despite
    there being no solid evidence that they help people quit smoking.
    Luxon: "Look, I haven't seen the advice."

    4. Donations from the tobacco industry
    "Luxon was asked by Hipkins if he would consider any donation from the
    tobacco industry to New Zealand First a conflict of interest.
    The Prime Minister responded by saying he wasn't aware of any
    donations."
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says he's not aware of any minister
    receiving donations from tobacco lobby groups after grilling by
    Hipkins

    5. Winston Peters getting special treatment to avoid cuts to MFAT.
    Asked if Peters got special treatment through the Budget negotiations,
    the Prime Minister told Stuff, "not that I'm aware of, no."
    Winston Peters negotiates chief-to-chief with PM to avoid severe cuts
    at his ministry

    6. How many households would be worse off from his government's tax
    bracket changes
    "I haven't seen the data that you're referencing," the PM said when
    asked.
    9,000 households would be worse off as a result of its income tax
    bracket changes.
    PM unaware how many families will be worse off as a result of the
    government's tax cuts

    7. How much people receive on the Jobseeker benefit that he introduced sanctions for.
    "I'll give you a precise number but I don't know the precise number."
    Here's Luxon being asked how much money people on the benefit get.
    "You are talking about this as a lifestyle choice, essentially you're
    saying it's easier to be on a benefit than it is to go and do these
    other things and you don't know that basic piece of information"

    8. Penny Simmonds signing off on sudden cuts to respite care for
    families of disabled people
    "Luxon replied that he was unaware of the changes prior to them being
    made."
    Disability funding: Chris Hipkins calls for Penny Simmonds to be
    sacked over 'absolute debacle'

    9. Ministry of education rehiring staff as consultants
    "Consulting firms are now asking some of the MoE staff being made
    redundant to work for them, essentially doing the same work but at
    double the price the ministry would have paid."

    Luxon said "I'm not aware of that."

    10. Allegations of his mentor and close friend, John Key's insider
    trading
    "It's not something I'm aware of, I'm unaware of what's been going on
    there."
    Asked about the John Key insider trading allegations, Luxon fluctuated
    between "I've read the reports," "it's not something I'm aware of," "I
    read the statement that he released yesterday" and "I'm unaware of
    what's been going on there." So which is it?

    11. Abuse in state care report
    Luxon fronted media where he conceded he had not yet read the final
    report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and
    Faith-based Care.
    PM On Defensive After Minister Admits Not Reading Interim Abuse Report
    "RNZ has learned Doocey, one of the ministers with responsibility for
    assessing the Royal Commission's recommendations, was then sent the
    report personally in November.
    However, at a meeting with survivors of the Catholic order in May this
    year, he admitted he had not read it."

    12. National using AI to generate images for campaign ads
    Luxon denied using Al, saying: "No, [National isn't using Al to make
    ads], not that I'm aware of."
    A National Party spokesperson said, however: "Yes we have used Al to
    create some stock images."
    National Party uses AI in attack ads: Christopher Luxon 'not aware'

    13. Former National minister's child sex abuse allegations
    Luxon said he was "completely unaware" of the "very serious
    allegations".
    Prime minister 'completely unaware' of ex-minister's child sex abuse allegations

    14. Current National MP Sam Uffindell's history of assault
    "What emerged last night was a new series of allegations that I was
    completely unaware of."
    Luxon 'completely unaware' of Uffindell university allegation

    15. National MP Barbara Kuriger's meeting with Agriculture Minister
    Luxon said he was not aware MP Barbara Kuriger had met with
    Agriculture Minister Damien O'Connor as part of her son's dispute with
    MPI.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware Kuriger met Agriculture
    Minister over son's MPI dispute

    16. Who his then-likely coalition partner Winston Peters was
    "I don't know him. I don't know him. I don't know him Paddy, I don't
    know him well."

    17. How much he made in tax free capital gains from his investment
    properties
    "I have no idea," he told Newshub, when asked how much capital gains
    he made in total from those seven properties in the last year.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware his $7m Remuera home
    increased in value by $2.3m over one year

    18. Air NZ's contact with the Saudi navy
    "Former Air New Zealand CEO Christopher Luxon says he has 'no
    recollection' of the company's controversial contract with the Saudi
    military, despite being the boss at the time."
    Former Air NZ CEO, National MP Christopher Luxon says he was unaware
    of Saudi navy contract

    19. How much pension payments are or that public transport is
    subsidised
    "[Public transport] can't be subsidised or underwritten" Luxon
    claimed.

    Last Month, while discussing Superannuation, Luxon was unable to
    answer how much a pension payment was. Before that, he got in a tangle
    over whether National supported the clean car discount, and then the
    clean car standard. And earlier this year, Luxon appeared unaware that
    public transport was heavily subsidised.

    20. Specific details about his policy
    Not only does Luxon repeat the phrases "I'm unaware", "I've not been
    briefed", "I've not been advised" ad nauseam, he regularly gets
    details wrong.

    When challenged on one of these errors, Luxon said: Whoop-de-doo
    "Whoop-de-doo" indeed.

    Health Minister Shane Reti faces growing pressure over Health NZ
    finances
    Layers of management: Reti and Luxon stood by their claim there was 14
    layers of management at Health NZ.
    "I've seen the list, from chair to patient it's 14 layers ... that's
    quite normal when you talk from customer to chair or customer to CEO,
    that's how organisations tend to measure," Luxon said.

    When pushed that a patient was clearly not a manager, he pushed back.
    "So you're arguing it's maybe 13 not 14, well whoop de doo."

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Oct 12 22:01:16 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    1. Dunedin's mitigated flood risk prevention plan.
    "I haven't seen advice on that and am not aware of that," he said,
    despite his coalition rejecting it earlier this year.
    Christopher Luxon sidesteps questions on declined Dunedin flood risk >mitigation plan

    2. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part I
    "I haven't seen the stories. In fairness, I need to be able to have
    that before I have any further comment."

    3. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part II
    Eight months later, Luxon still hasn't seen the advice Costello used
    to cut excise tax on Heated Tobacco Products by 50%
    Here's Guyon Espiner grilling Luxon on his government, setting aside
    $216 million to cut taxes on Heated Tobacco Products by 50% despite
    there being no solid evidence that they help people quit smoking.
    Luxon: "Look, I haven't seen the advice."

    4. Donations from the tobacco industry
    "Luxon was asked by Hipkins if he would consider any donation from the >tobacco industry to New Zealand First a conflict of interest.
    The Prime Minister responded by saying he wasn't aware of any
    donations."
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says he's not aware of any minister >receiving donations from tobacco lobby groups after grilling by
    Hipkins

    5. Winston Peters getting special treatment to avoid cuts to MFAT.
    Asked if Peters got special treatment through the Budget negotiations,
    the Prime Minister told Stuff, "not that I'm aware of, no."
    Winston Peters negotiates chief-to-chief with PM to avoid severe cuts
    at his ministry

    6. How many households would be worse off from his government's tax
    bracket changes
    "I haven't seen the data that you're referencing," the PM said when
    asked.
    9,000 households would be worse off as a result of its income tax
    bracket changes.
    PM unaware how many families will be worse off as a result of the >government's tax cuts

    7. How much people receive on the Jobseeker benefit that he introduced >sanctions for.
    "I'll give you a precise number but I don't know the precise number."
    Here's Luxon being asked how much money people on the benefit get.
    "You are talking about this as a lifestyle choice, essentially you're
    saying it's easier to be on a benefit than it is to go and do these
    other things and you don't know that basic piece of information"

    8. Penny Simmonds signing off on sudden cuts to respite care for
    families of disabled people
    "Luxon replied that he was unaware of the changes prior to them being
    made."
    Disability funding: Chris Hipkins calls for Penny Simmonds to be
    sacked over 'absolute debacle'

    9. Ministry of education rehiring staff as consultants
    "Consulting firms are now asking some of the MoE staff being made
    redundant to work for them, essentially doing the same work but at
    double the price the ministry would have paid."

    Luxon said "I'm not aware of that."

    10. Allegations of his mentor and close friend, John Key's insider
    trading
    "It's not something I'm aware of, I'm unaware of what's been going on
    there."
    Asked about the John Key insider trading allegations, Luxon fluctuated >between "I've read the reports," "it's not something I'm aware of," "I
    read the statement that he released yesterday" and "I'm unaware of
    what's been going on there." So which is it?

    11. Abuse in state care report
    Luxon fronted media where he conceded he had not yet read the final
    report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and
    Faith-based Care.
    PM On Defensive After Minister Admits Not Reading Interim Abuse Report
    "RNZ has learned Doocey, one of the ministers with responsibility for >assessing the Royal Commission's recommendations, was then sent the
    report personally in November.
    However, at a meeting with survivors of the Catholic order in May this
    year, he admitted he had not read it."

    12. National using AI to generate images for campaign ads
    Luxon denied using Al, saying: "No, [National isn't using Al to make
    ads], not that I'm aware of."
    A National Party spokesperson said, however: "Yes we have used Al to
    create some stock images."
    National Party uses AI in attack ads: Christopher Luxon 'not aware'

    13. Former National minister's child sex abuse allegations
    Luxon said he was "completely unaware" of the "very serious
    allegations".
    Prime minister 'completely unaware' of ex-minister's child sex abuse >allegations

    14. Current National MP Sam Uffindell's history of assault
    "What emerged last night was a new series of allegations that I was >completely unaware of."
    Luxon 'completely unaware' of Uffindell university allegation

    15. National MP Barbara Kuriger's meeting with Agriculture Minister
    Luxon said he was not aware MP Barbara Kuriger had met with
    Agriculture Minister Damien O'Connor as part of her son's dispute with
    MPI.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware Kuriger met Agriculture
    Minister over son's MPI dispute

    16. Who his then-likely coalition partner Winston Peters was
    "I don't know him. I don't know him. I don't know him Paddy, I don't
    know him well."

    17. How much he made in tax free capital gains from his investment
    properties
    "I have no idea," he told Newshub, when asked how much capital gains
    he made in total from those seven properties in the last year.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware his $7m Remuera home
    increased in value by $2.3m over one year

    18. Air NZ's contact with the Saudi navy
    "Former Air New Zealand CEO Christopher Luxon says he has 'no
    recollection' of the company's controversial contract with the Saudi >military, despite being the boss at the time."
    Former Air NZ CEO, National MP Christopher Luxon says he was unaware
    of Saudi navy contract

    19. How much pension payments are or that public transport is
    subsidised
    "[Public transport] can't be subsidised or underwritten" Luxon
    claimed.

    Last Month, while discussing Superannuation, Luxon was unable to
    answer how much a pension payment was. Before that, he got in a tangle
    over whether National supported the clean car discount, and then the
    clean car standard. And earlier this year, Luxon appeared unaware that
    public transport was heavily subsidised.

    20. Specific details about his policy
    Not only does Luxon repeat the phrases "I'm unaware", "I've not been >briefed", "I've not been advised" ad nauseam, he regularly gets
    details wrong.

    When challenged on one of these errors, Luxon said: Whoop-de-doo >"Whoop-de-doo" indeed.

    Health Minister Shane Reti faces growing pressure over Health NZ
    finances
    Layers of management: Reti and Luxon stood by their claim there was 14
    layers of management at Health NZ.
    "I've seen the list, from chair to patient it's 14 layers ... that's
    quite normal when you talk from customer to chair or customer to CEO,
    that's how organisations tend to measure," Luxon said.

    When pushed that a patient was clearly not a manager, he pushed back.
    "So you're arguing it's maybe 13 not 14, well whoop de doo."
    Well done.
    What a waste of your time.
    This government is streets ahead of the shambles that your gobvernment left behind.
    And all you can do is gripe and post sarcasm.
    Well done - for a 5 year old!

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sun Oct 13 22:48:35 2024
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:01:16 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    1. Dunedin's mitigated flood risk prevention plan.
    "I haven't seen advice on that and am not aware of that," he said,
    despite his coalition rejecting it earlier this year.
    Christopher Luxon sidesteps questions on declined Dunedin flood risk >>mitigation plan

    2. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part I
    "I haven't seen the stories. In fairness, I need to be able to have
    that before I have any further comment."

    3. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part II >>Eight months later, Luxon still hasn't seen the advice Costello used
    to cut excise tax on Heated Tobacco Products by 50%
    Here's Guyon Espiner grilling Luxon on his government, setting aside
    $216 million to cut taxes on Heated Tobacco Products by 50% despite
    there being no solid evidence that they help people quit smoking.
    Luxon: "Look, I haven't seen the advice."

    4. Donations from the tobacco industry
    "Luxon was asked by Hipkins if he would consider any donation from the >>tobacco industry to New Zealand First a conflict of interest.
    The Prime Minister responded by saying he wasn't aware of any
    donations."
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says he's not aware of any minister >>receiving donations from tobacco lobby groups after grilling by
    Hipkins

    5. Winston Peters getting special treatment to avoid cuts to MFAT.
    Asked if Peters got special treatment through the Budget negotiations,
    the Prime Minister told Stuff, "not that I'm aware of, no."
    Winston Peters negotiates chief-to-chief with PM to avoid severe cuts
    at his ministry

    6. How many households would be worse off from his government's tax
    bracket changes
    "I haven't seen the data that you're referencing," the PM said when
    asked.
    9,000 households would be worse off as a result of its income tax
    bracket changes.
    PM unaware how many families will be worse off as a result of the >>government's tax cuts

    7. How much people receive on the Jobseeker benefit that he introduced >>sanctions for.
    "I'll give you a precise number but I don't know the precise number." >>Here's Luxon being asked how much money people on the benefit get.
    "You are talking about this as a lifestyle choice, essentially you're >>saying it's easier to be on a benefit than it is to go and do these
    other things and you don't know that basic piece of information"

    8. Penny Simmonds signing off on sudden cuts to respite care for
    families of disabled people
    "Luxon replied that he was unaware of the changes prior to them being >>made."
    Disability funding: Chris Hipkins calls for Penny Simmonds to be
    sacked over 'absolute debacle'

    9. Ministry of education rehiring staff as consultants
    "Consulting firms are now asking some of the MoE staff being made
    redundant to work for them, essentially doing the same work but at
    double the price the ministry would have paid."

    Luxon said "I'm not aware of that."

    10. Allegations of his mentor and close friend, John Key's insider
    trading
    "It's not something I'm aware of, I'm unaware of what's been going on >>there."
    Asked about the John Key insider trading allegations, Luxon fluctuated >>between "I've read the reports," "it's not something I'm aware of," "I
    read the statement that he released yesterday" and "I'm unaware of
    what's been going on there." So which is it?

    11. Abuse in state care report
    Luxon fronted media where he conceded he had not yet read the final
    report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and >>Faith-based Care.
    PM On Defensive After Minister Admits Not Reading Interim Abuse Report
    "RNZ has learned Doocey, one of the ministers with responsibility for >>assessing the Royal Commission's recommendations, was then sent the
    report personally in November.
    However, at a meeting with survivors of the Catholic order in May this >>year, he admitted he had not read it."

    12. National using AI to generate images for campaign ads
    Luxon denied using Al, saying: "No, [National isn't using Al to make
    ads], not that I'm aware of."
    A National Party spokesperson said, however: "Yes we have used Al to
    create some stock images."
    National Party uses AI in attack ads: Christopher Luxon 'not aware'

    13. Former National minister's child sex abuse allegations
    Luxon said he was "completely unaware" of the "very serious
    allegations".
    Prime minister 'completely unaware' of ex-minister's child sex abuse >>allegations

    14. Current National MP Sam Uffindell's history of assault
    "What emerged last night was a new series of allegations that I was >>completely unaware of."
    Luxon 'completely unaware' of Uffindell university allegation

    15. National MP Barbara Kuriger's meeting with Agriculture Minister
    Luxon said he was not aware MP Barbara Kuriger had met with
    Agriculture Minister Damien O'Connor as part of her son's dispute with
    MPI.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware Kuriger met Agriculture
    Minister over son's MPI dispute

    16. Who his then-likely coalition partner Winston Peters was
    "I don't know him. I don't know him. I don't know him Paddy, I don't
    know him well."

    17. How much he made in tax free capital gains from his investment >>properties
    "I have no idea," he told Newshub, when asked how much capital gains
    he made in total from those seven properties in the last year.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware his $7m Remuera home
    increased in value by $2.3m over one year

    18. Air NZ's contact with the Saudi navy
    "Former Air New Zealand CEO Christopher Luxon says he has 'no
    recollection' of the company's controversial contract with the Saudi >>military, despite being the boss at the time."
    Former Air NZ CEO, National MP Christopher Luxon says he was unaware
    of Saudi navy contract

    19. How much pension payments are or that public transport is
    subsidised
    "[Public transport] can't be subsidised or underwritten" Luxon
    claimed.

    Last Month, while discussing Superannuation, Luxon was unable to
    answer how much a pension payment was. Before that, he got in a tangle
    over whether National supported the clean car discount, and then the
    clean car standard. And earlier this year, Luxon appeared unaware that >>public transport was heavily subsidised.

    20. Specific details about his policy
    Not only does Luxon repeat the phrases "I'm unaware", "I've not been >>briefed", "I've not been advised" ad nauseam, he regularly gets
    details wrong.

    When challenged on one of these errors, Luxon said: Whoop-de-doo >>"Whoop-de-doo" indeed.

    Health Minister Shane Reti faces growing pressure over Health NZ
    finances
    Layers of management: Reti and Luxon stood by their claim there was 14 >>layers of management at Health NZ.
    "I've seen the list, from chair to patient it's 14 layers ... that's
    quite normal when you talk from customer to chair or customer to CEO, >>that's how organisations tend to measure," Luxon said.

    When pushed that a patient was clearly not a manager, he pushed back.
    "So you're arguing it's maybe 13 not 14, well whoop de doo."
    Well done.
    What a waste of your time.
    This government is streets ahead of the shambles that your gobvernment left >behind.
    And all you can do is gripe and post sarcasm.
    Well done - for a 5 year old!
    Never mind, Tony; you can still dream of a more Trumpian candidate
    sometime in the future - Luxon probably won't last long, but Trump,
    Musk and Vance seems as truthful and honest as you are:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/10/trump-hurricane-lies-conspiracy-theories

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Oct 13 18:34:03 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:01:16 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    1. Dunedin's mitigated flood risk prevention plan.
    "I haven't seen advice on that and am not aware of that," he said, >>>despite his coalition rejecting it earlier this year.
    Christopher Luxon sidesteps questions on declined Dunedin flood risk >>>mitigation plan

    2. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part I
    "I haven't seen the stories. In fairness, I need to be able to have
    that before I have any further comment."

    3. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part II >>>Eight months later, Luxon still hasn't seen the advice Costello used
    to cut excise tax on Heated Tobacco Products by 50%
    Here's Guyon Espiner grilling Luxon on his government, setting aside
    $216 million to cut taxes on Heated Tobacco Products by 50% despite
    there being no solid evidence that they help people quit smoking.
    Luxon: "Look, I haven't seen the advice."

    4. Donations from the tobacco industry
    "Luxon was asked by Hipkins if he would consider any donation from the >>>tobacco industry to New Zealand First a conflict of interest.
    The Prime Minister responded by saying he wasn't aware of any
    donations."
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says he's not aware of any minister >>>receiving donations from tobacco lobby groups after grilling by
    Hipkins

    5. Winston Peters getting special treatment to avoid cuts to MFAT.
    Asked if Peters got special treatment through the Budget negotiations, >>>the Prime Minister told Stuff, "not that I'm aware of, no."
    Winston Peters negotiates chief-to-chief with PM to avoid severe cuts
    at his ministry

    6. How many households would be worse off from his government's tax >>>bracket changes
    "I haven't seen the data that you're referencing," the PM said when >>>asked.
    9,000 households would be worse off as a result of its income tax
    bracket changes.
    PM unaware how many families will be worse off as a result of the >>>government's tax cuts

    7. How much people receive on the Jobseeker benefit that he introduced >>>sanctions for.
    "I'll give you a precise number but I don't know the precise number." >>>Here's Luxon being asked how much money people on the benefit get.
    "You are talking about this as a lifestyle choice, essentially you're >>>saying it's easier to be on a benefit than it is to go and do these
    other things and you don't know that basic piece of information"

    8. Penny Simmonds signing off on sudden cuts to respite care for
    families of disabled people
    "Luxon replied that he was unaware of the changes prior to them being >>>made."
    Disability funding: Chris Hipkins calls for Penny Simmonds to be
    sacked over 'absolute debacle'

    9. Ministry of education rehiring staff as consultants
    "Consulting firms are now asking some of the MoE staff being made >>>redundant to work for them, essentially doing the same work but at
    double the price the ministry would have paid."

    Luxon said "I'm not aware of that."

    10. Allegations of his mentor and close friend, John Key's insider >>>trading
    "It's not something I'm aware of, I'm unaware of what's been going on >>>there."
    Asked about the John Key insider trading allegations, Luxon fluctuated >>>between "I've read the reports," "it's not something I'm aware of," "I >>>read the statement that he released yesterday" and "I'm unaware of
    what's been going on there." So which is it?

    11. Abuse in state care report
    Luxon fronted media where he conceded he had not yet read the final >>>report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and >>>Faith-based Care.
    PM On Defensive After Minister Admits Not Reading Interim Abuse Report >>>"RNZ has learned Doocey, one of the ministers with responsibility for >>>assessing the Royal Commission's recommendations, was then sent the >>>report personally in November.
    However, at a meeting with survivors of the Catholic order in May this >>>year, he admitted he had not read it."

    12. National using AI to generate images for campaign ads
    Luxon denied using Al, saying: "No, [National isn't using Al to make >>>ads], not that I'm aware of."
    A National Party spokesperson said, however: "Yes we have used Al to >>>create some stock images."
    National Party uses AI in attack ads: Christopher Luxon 'not aware'

    13. Former National minister's child sex abuse allegations
    Luxon said he was "completely unaware" of the "very serious
    allegations".
    Prime minister 'completely unaware' of ex-minister's child sex abuse >>>allegations

    14. Current National MP Sam Uffindell's history of assault
    "What emerged last night was a new series of allegations that I was >>>completely unaware of."
    Luxon 'completely unaware' of Uffindell university allegation

    15. National MP Barbara Kuriger's meeting with Agriculture Minister
    Luxon said he was not aware MP Barbara Kuriger had met with
    Agriculture Minister Damien O'Connor as part of her son's dispute with >>>MPI.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware Kuriger met Agriculture >>>Minister over son's MPI dispute

    16. Who his then-likely coalition partner Winston Peters was
    "I don't know him. I don't know him. I don't know him Paddy, I don't
    know him well."

    17. How much he made in tax free capital gains from his investment >>>properties
    "I have no idea," he told Newshub, when asked how much capital gains
    he made in total from those seven properties in the last year.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware his $7m Remuera home
    increased in value by $2.3m over one year

    18. Air NZ's contact with the Saudi navy
    "Former Air New Zealand CEO Christopher Luxon says he has 'no >>>recollection' of the company's controversial contract with the Saudi >>>military, despite being the boss at the time."
    Former Air NZ CEO, National MP Christopher Luxon says he was unaware
    of Saudi navy contract

    19. How much pension payments are or that public transport is
    subsidised
    "[Public transport] can't be subsidised or underwritten" Luxon
    claimed.

    Last Month, while discussing Superannuation, Luxon was unable to
    answer how much a pension payment was. Before that, he got in a tangle >>>over whether National supported the clean car discount, and then the >>>clean car standard. And earlier this year, Luxon appeared unaware that >>>public transport was heavily subsidised.

    20. Specific details about his policy
    Not only does Luxon repeat the phrases "I'm unaware", "I've not been >>>briefed", "I've not been advised" ad nauseam, he regularly gets
    details wrong.

    When challenged on one of these errors, Luxon said: Whoop-de-doo >>>"Whoop-de-doo" indeed.

    Health Minister Shane Reti faces growing pressure over Health NZ
    finances
    Layers of management: Reti and Luxon stood by their claim there was 14 >>>layers of management at Health NZ.
    "I've seen the list, from chair to patient it's 14 layers ... that's >>>quite normal when you talk from customer to chair or customer to CEO, >>>that's how organisations tend to measure," Luxon said.

    When pushed that a patient was clearly not a manager, he pushed back.
    "So you're arguing it's maybe 13 not 14, well whoop de doo."
    Well done.
    What a waste of your time.
    This government is streets ahead of the shambles that your gobvernment left >>behind.
    And all you can do is gripe and post sarcasm.
    Well done - for a 5 year old!
    Never mind, Tony; you can still dream of a more Trumpian candidate
    sometime in the future - Luxon probably won't last long, but Trump,
    Musk and Vance seems as truthful and honest as you are:
    There you are. The real Dickbot, just sarcasm. Nothing of value.
    You couldn't debate if you were on trial for your life, you would just be sarcastic to the judge.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/10/trump-hurricane-lies-conspiracy-theories
    Another leftie rag, just like your favourite blog sites.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Mon Oct 14 08:38:59 2024
    On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 18:34:03 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:01:16 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    1. Dunedin's mitigated flood risk prevention plan.
    "I haven't seen advice on that and am not aware of that," he said, >>>>despite his coalition rejecting it earlier this year.
    Christopher Luxon sidesteps questions on declined Dunedin flood risk >>>>mitigation plan

    2. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part I >>>>"I haven't seen the stories. In fairness, I need to be able to have >>>>that before I have any further comment."

    3. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part II >>>>Eight months later, Luxon still hasn't seen the advice Costello used
    to cut excise tax on Heated Tobacco Products by 50%
    Here's Guyon Espiner grilling Luxon on his government, setting aside >>>>$216 million to cut taxes on Heated Tobacco Products by 50% despite >>>>there being no solid evidence that they help people quit smoking. >>>>Luxon: "Look, I haven't seen the advice."

    4. Donations from the tobacco industry
    "Luxon was asked by Hipkins if he would consider any donation from the >>>>tobacco industry to New Zealand First a conflict of interest.
    The Prime Minister responded by saying he wasn't aware of any >>>>donations."
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says he's not aware of any minister >>>>receiving donations from tobacco lobby groups after grilling by
    Hipkins

    5. Winston Peters getting special treatment to avoid cuts to MFAT. >>>>Asked if Peters got special treatment through the Budget negotiations, >>>>the Prime Minister told Stuff, "not that I'm aware of, no."
    Winston Peters negotiates chief-to-chief with PM to avoid severe cuts >>>>at his ministry

    6. How many households would be worse off from his government's tax >>>>bracket changes
    "I haven't seen the data that you're referencing," the PM said when >>>>asked.
    9,000 households would be worse off as a result of its income tax >>>>bracket changes.
    PM unaware how many families will be worse off as a result of the >>>>government's tax cuts

    7. How much people receive on the Jobseeker benefit that he introduced >>>>sanctions for.
    "I'll give you a precise number but I don't know the precise number." >>>>Here's Luxon being asked how much money people on the benefit get.
    "You are talking about this as a lifestyle choice, essentially you're >>>>saying it's easier to be on a benefit than it is to go and do these >>>>other things and you don't know that basic piece of information"

    8. Penny Simmonds signing off on sudden cuts to respite care for >>>>families of disabled people
    "Luxon replied that he was unaware of the changes prior to them being >>>>made."
    Disability funding: Chris Hipkins calls for Penny Simmonds to be
    sacked over 'absolute debacle'

    9. Ministry of education rehiring staff as consultants
    "Consulting firms are now asking some of the MoE staff being made >>>>redundant to work for them, essentially doing the same work but at >>>>double the price the ministry would have paid."

    Luxon said "I'm not aware of that."

    10. Allegations of his mentor and close friend, John Key's insider >>>>trading
    "It's not something I'm aware of, I'm unaware of what's been going on >>>>there."
    Asked about the John Key insider trading allegations, Luxon fluctuated >>>>between "I've read the reports," "it's not something I'm aware of," "I >>>>read the statement that he released yesterday" and "I'm unaware of >>>>what's been going on there." So which is it?

    11. Abuse in state care report
    Luxon fronted media where he conceded he had not yet read the final >>>>report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and >>>>Faith-based Care.
    PM On Defensive After Minister Admits Not Reading Interim Abuse Report >>>>"RNZ has learned Doocey, one of the ministers with responsibility for >>>>assessing the Royal Commission's recommendations, was then sent the >>>>report personally in November.
    However, at a meeting with survivors of the Catholic order in May this >>>>year, he admitted he had not read it."

    12. National using AI to generate images for campaign ads
    Luxon denied using Al, saying: "No, [National isn't using Al to make >>>>ads], not that I'm aware of."
    A National Party spokesperson said, however: "Yes we have used Al to >>>>create some stock images."
    National Party uses AI in attack ads: Christopher Luxon 'not aware'

    13. Former National minister's child sex abuse allegations
    Luxon said he was "completely unaware" of the "very serious >>>>allegations".
    Prime minister 'completely unaware' of ex-minister's child sex abuse >>>>allegations

    14. Current National MP Sam Uffindell's history of assault
    "What emerged last night was a new series of allegations that I was >>>>completely unaware of."
    Luxon 'completely unaware' of Uffindell university allegation

    15. National MP Barbara Kuriger's meeting with Agriculture Minister >>>>Luxon said he was not aware MP Barbara Kuriger had met with
    Agriculture Minister Damien O'Connor as part of her son's dispute with >>>>MPI.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware Kuriger met Agriculture >>>>Minister over son's MPI dispute

    16. Who his then-likely coalition partner Winston Peters was
    "I don't know him. I don't know him. I don't know him Paddy, I don't >>>>know him well."

    17. How much he made in tax free capital gains from his investment >>>>properties
    "I have no idea," he told Newshub, when asked how much capital gains
    he made in total from those seven properties in the last year.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware his $7m Remuera home >>>>increased in value by $2.3m over one year

    18. Air NZ's contact with the Saudi navy
    "Former Air New Zealand CEO Christopher Luxon says he has 'no >>>>recollection' of the company's controversial contract with the Saudi >>>>military, despite being the boss at the time."
    Former Air NZ CEO, National MP Christopher Luxon says he was unaware
    of Saudi navy contract

    19. How much pension payments are or that public transport is >>>>subsidised
    "[Public transport] can't be subsidised or underwritten" Luxon
    claimed.

    Last Month, while discussing Superannuation, Luxon was unable to
    answer how much a pension payment was. Before that, he got in a tangle >>>>over whether National supported the clean car discount, and then the >>>>clean car standard. And earlier this year, Luxon appeared unaware that >>>>public transport was heavily subsidised.

    20. Specific details about his policy
    Not only does Luxon repeat the phrases "I'm unaware", "I've not been >>>>briefed", "I've not been advised" ad nauseam, he regularly gets
    details wrong.

    When challenged on one of these errors, Luxon said: Whoop-de-doo >>>>"Whoop-de-doo" indeed.

    Health Minister Shane Reti faces growing pressure over Health NZ >>>>finances
    Layers of management: Reti and Luxon stood by their claim there was 14 >>>>layers of management at Health NZ.
    "I've seen the list, from chair to patient it's 14 layers ... that's >>>>quite normal when you talk from customer to chair or customer to CEO, >>>>that's how organisations tend to measure," Luxon said.

    When pushed that a patient was clearly not a manager, he pushed back. >>>>"So you're arguing it's maybe 13 not 14, well whoop de doo."
    Well done.
    What a waste of your time.
    This government is streets ahead of the shambles that your gobvernment left >>>behind.
    And all you can do is gripe and post sarcasm.
    Well done - for a 5 year old!
    Never mind, Tony; you can still dream of a more Trumpian candidate
    sometime in the future - Luxon probably won't last long, but Trump,
    Musk and Vance seems as truthful and honest as you are:
    There you are. The real Dickbot, just sarcasm. Nothing of value.
    You couldn't debate if you were on trial for your life, you would just be >sarcastic to the judge.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/10/trump-hurricane-lies-conspiracy-theories
    Another leftie rag, just like your favourite blog sites.
    And:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/28/us/trump-pardons-camberos.html

    So what have the tobacco, fishing, mining and gun lobbies bought here
    in New Zealand?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sun Oct 13 20:58:52 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 18:34:03 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:01:16 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    1. Dunedin's mitigated flood risk prevention plan.
    "I haven't seen advice on that and am not aware of that," he said, >>>>>despite his coalition rejecting it earlier this year.
    Christopher Luxon sidesteps questions on declined Dunedin flood risk >>>>>mitigation plan

    2. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part I >>>>>"I haven't seen the stories. In fairness, I need to be able to have >>>>>that before I have any further comment."

    3. Where Casey Costello's advice on tobacco policy came from - Part II >>>>>Eight months later, Luxon still hasn't seen the advice Costello used >>>>>to cut excise tax on Heated Tobacco Products by 50%
    Here's Guyon Espiner grilling Luxon on his government, setting aside >>>>>$216 million to cut taxes on Heated Tobacco Products by 50% despite >>>>>there being no solid evidence that they help people quit smoking. >>>>>Luxon: "Look, I haven't seen the advice."

    4. Donations from the tobacco industry
    "Luxon was asked by Hipkins if he would consider any donation from the >>>>>tobacco industry to New Zealand First a conflict of interest.
    The Prime Minister responded by saying he wasn't aware of any >>>>>donations."
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says he's not aware of any minister >>>>>receiving donations from tobacco lobby groups after grilling by >>>>>Hipkins

    5. Winston Peters getting special treatment to avoid cuts to MFAT. >>>>>Asked if Peters got special treatment through the Budget negotiations, >>>>>the Prime Minister told Stuff, "not that I'm aware of, no."
    Winston Peters negotiates chief-to-chief with PM to avoid severe cuts >>>>>at his ministry

    6. How many households would be worse off from his government's tax >>>>>bracket changes
    "I haven't seen the data that you're referencing," the PM said when >>>>>asked.
    9,000 households would be worse off as a result of its income tax >>>>>bracket changes.
    PM unaware how many families will be worse off as a result of the >>>>>government's tax cuts

    7. How much people receive on the Jobseeker benefit that he introduced >>>>>sanctions for.
    "I'll give you a precise number but I don't know the precise number." >>>>>Here's Luxon being asked how much money people on the benefit get. >>>>>"You are talking about this as a lifestyle choice, essentially you're >>>>>saying it's easier to be on a benefit than it is to go and do these >>>>>other things and you don't know that basic piece of information"

    8. Penny Simmonds signing off on sudden cuts to respite care for >>>>>families of disabled people
    "Luxon replied that he was unaware of the changes prior to them being >>>>>made."
    Disability funding: Chris Hipkins calls for Penny Simmonds to be >>>>>sacked over 'absolute debacle'

    9. Ministry of education rehiring staff as consultants
    "Consulting firms are now asking some of the MoE staff being made >>>>>redundant to work for them, essentially doing the same work but at >>>>>double the price the ministry would have paid."

    Luxon said "I'm not aware of that."

    10. Allegations of his mentor and close friend, John Key's insider >>>>>trading
    "It's not something I'm aware of, I'm unaware of what's been going on >>>>>there."
    Asked about the John Key insider trading allegations, Luxon fluctuated >>>>>between "I've read the reports," "it's not something I'm aware of," "I >>>>>read the statement that he released yesterday" and "I'm unaware of >>>>>what's been going on there." So which is it?

    11. Abuse in state care report
    Luxon fronted media where he conceded he had not yet read the final >>>>>report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and >>>>>Faith-based Care.
    PM On Defensive After Minister Admits Not Reading Interim Abuse Report >>>>>"RNZ has learned Doocey, one of the ministers with responsibility for >>>>>assessing the Royal Commission's recommendations, was then sent the >>>>>report personally in November.
    However, at a meeting with survivors of the Catholic order in May this >>>>>year, he admitted he had not read it."

    12. National using AI to generate images for campaign ads
    Luxon denied using Al, saying: "No, [National isn't using Al to make >>>>>ads], not that I'm aware of."
    A National Party spokesperson said, however: "Yes we have used Al to >>>>>create some stock images."
    National Party uses AI in attack ads: Christopher Luxon 'not aware'

    13. Former National minister's child sex abuse allegations
    Luxon said he was "completely unaware" of the "very serious >>>>>allegations".
    Prime minister 'completely unaware' of ex-minister's child sex abuse >>>>>allegations

    14. Current National MP Sam Uffindell's history of assault
    "What emerged last night was a new series of allegations that I was >>>>>completely unaware of."
    Luxon 'completely unaware' of Uffindell university allegation

    15. National MP Barbara Kuriger's meeting with Agriculture Minister >>>>>Luxon said he was not aware MP Barbara Kuriger had met with >>>>>Agriculture Minister Damien O'Connor as part of her son's dispute with >>>>>MPI.
    National leader Christopher Luxon unaware Kuriger met Agriculture >>>>>Minister over son's MPI dispute

    16. Who his then-likely coalition partner Winston Peters was
    "I don't know him. I don't know him. I don't know him Paddy, I don't >>>>>know him well."

    17. How much he made in tax free capital gains from his investment >>>>>properties
    "I have no idea," he told Newshub, when asked how much capital gains >>>>>he made in total from those seven properties in the last year. >>>>>National leader Christopher Luxon unaware his $7m Remuera home >>>>>increased in value by $2.3m over one year

    18. Air NZ's contact with the Saudi navy
    "Former Air New Zealand CEO Christopher Luxon says he has 'no >>>>>recollection' of the company's controversial contract with the Saudi >>>>>military, despite being the boss at the time."
    Former Air NZ CEO, National MP Christopher Luxon says he was unaware >>>>>of Saudi navy contract

    19. How much pension payments are or that public transport is >>>>>subsidised
    "[Public transport] can't be subsidised or underwritten" Luxon >>>>>claimed.

    Last Month, while discussing Superannuation, Luxon was unable to >>>>>answer how much a pension payment was. Before that, he got in a tangle >>>>>over whether National supported the clean car discount, and then the >>>>>clean car standard. And earlier this year, Luxon appeared unaware that >>>>>public transport was heavily subsidised.

    20. Specific details about his policy
    Not only does Luxon repeat the phrases "I'm unaware", "I've not been >>>>>briefed", "I've not been advised" ad nauseam, he regularly gets >>>>>details wrong.

    When challenged on one of these errors, Luxon said: Whoop-de-doo >>>>>"Whoop-de-doo" indeed.

    Health Minister Shane Reti faces growing pressure over Health NZ >>>>>finances
    Layers of management: Reti and Luxon stood by their claim there was 14 >>>>>layers of management at Health NZ.
    "I've seen the list, from chair to patient it's 14 layers ... that's >>>>>quite normal when you talk from customer to chair or customer to CEO, >>>>>that's how organisations tend to measure," Luxon said.

    When pushed that a patient was clearly not a manager, he pushed back. >>>>>"So you're arguing it's maybe 13 not 14, well whoop de doo."
    Well done.
    What a waste of your time.
    This government is streets ahead of the shambles that your gobvernment left >>>>behind.
    And all you can do is gripe and post sarcasm.
    Well done - for a 5 year old!
    Never mind, Tony; you can still dream of a more Trumpian candidate >>>sometime in the future - Luxon probably won't last long, but Trump,
    Musk and Vance seems as truthful and honest as you are:
    There you are. The real Dickbot, just sarcasm. Nothing of value.
    You couldn't debate if you were on trial for your life, you would just be >>sarcastic to the judge.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/10/trump-hurricane-lies-conspiracy-theories
    Another leftie rag, just like your favourite blog sites.
    And:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/28/us/trump-pardons-camberos.html
    Irrelevant.

    So what have the tobacco, fishing, mining and gun lobbies bought here
    in New Zealand?
    Oh another new topic.
    Why can't you finish the ones you already stuffed up?
    Run out of leftie rag links have you?

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