https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own
interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he
thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because
Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he
has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election,
but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime
Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated,
in the interests of the whole world.

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On 2024-10-24, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own
interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he
thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because
Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he
has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election,
but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime
Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated,
in the interests of the whole world.

Trump will not be soundly defeated, the election has been stolen, and it
does not matter who gets in.

The US of A is tenth on the list of country most likely to collaspe.

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On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:09:24 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own
interests is the best anyone can do.

I would say the majority of politicians here in NZ do indeed put the
interests of the country ahead of those of their political party. How else could you run a functioning democracy?

Fun fact: in spite of their much-vaunted “First Amendment”, the US
actually scores quite poorly on press freedom -- number 55 on a list of
180 nations <https://rsf.org/en/index>.

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Dickbot regurgitates Democrap talking points, 100% predictable.
The Dickbot is not capable of any other.

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own
interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he
thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because
Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he
has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election,
but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime
Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated,
in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the
country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as
another Ardern win in NZ.

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On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 07:51:35 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

[...]

Tell me, do you put the interests of your country ahead of your political party, or does your political party come first?

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On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own
interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he
thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because
Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he
has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election,
but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated,
in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the
country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as
another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about
New Zealand politicians post in a new thread, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

To get back on topic, see: https://forward.com/opinion/667660/trump-hitler-generals-fascist/

Now the Mary Trump article calls him a fascist, but the later article
points out that he is not really - he is just ignorant and deranged:

"Following The Atlantic�s report that former President Donald Trump
told a senior aide that he �needed the kind of generals Hitler had,� I
spoke with Omer Bartov, the Israeli-born professor of Holocaust
studies and antisemitism at Brown University. Bartov�s 2018 National
Jewish Book Award-winning Anatomy of a Genocide: The Life and Death of
a Town Called Buczacz examined how community conflict can turn into
genocide.

Bartov told me he sees the signs of �proto-fascism� in Trump and his supporters, but stressed that it�s important to pay attention to the
one major similarity between German society then and America today: a
deep sense of resentment.

�There are large sections of the population in America that simply
feel cheated,� he told me. �There is a social and economic malaise in
the United States, and Trump is the expression of it, but doing away
with him will not resolve the issue itself.�

And later:

"So Trump is saying, I want people who will do whatever I ask, no
matter what.

That�s why I say it�s a combination of ignorance and authoritarianism.
He�s attracted to Hitler because he thinks Hitler was so strong, and
he�s ignorant that the army was actually the tool of genocide in
Hitler�s hands.

Is it Trump�s way of saying that for him, the supreme virtue is
loyalty?

Yes, it is. It�s the Mafia approach. Hitler insisted on a personal
oath of loyalty to him that every soldier being recruited to the
military had to take. Trump demands complete loyalty and he would turn viciously against anyone who, in his mind, is no longer loyal. It�s
not just a fascist thing. It�s really the way that any self-respecting
criminal organization works."

So however you look at it, I believe that Trump is a worse politician,
or person, for the USA than any past or present New Zealand politician
has been or is for New Zealand. As the article finishes: "It�s by and
large an authoritarian, populist, and generally white supremacist
movement, although he does have support also from non-white elements
in the society." That may sound to some New Zealanders as similar to
the ACT party or perhaps more particularly the propaganda peddled by
the NZ Taxpayer Union - but without the Mafia approach . . .

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On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 11:40:54 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

So however you look at it, I believe that Trump is a worse politician,
or person, for the USA than any past or present New Zealand politician
has been or is for New Zealand.

His support seems to be primarily religious, i.e. evangelical Christian. Remember that he has never won the popular vote in a Presidential
election, and whatever the outcome of the next one, he’s not likely to win the popular vote there, either. The only reason he got in last time was
because of this slavery-era holdover called the “Electoral College”. And
it could indeed hand the Presidency to him again.

We have our own religious right, exemplified by Brian Tamaki and his
crowd. Luckily, NZ’s tradition of godless atheist socialist liberal
secular democracy seems to be holding up so far, and Tamaki’s attempts to launch religious-based political parties keep failing.

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because
Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he
has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated,
in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the
country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as
another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about
New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off topic with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the young marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.


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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own
interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he
thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because
Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he
has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election,
but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime
Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated,
in the interests of the whole world.

If Harris gets in, the wars will continue. Trump is a slightly better choice between two appalling candidates. Sadly either will do harm to the world.

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On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because >>>>Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he
has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated,
in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the
country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as
another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about
New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off topic >with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the young
marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.

You are wrong, and you lie. Mutley has not provided evidence that
Ardern is a marxist and you have not either. You are both wrong.

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because >>>>>Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he >>>>>has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated, >>>>>in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the >>>>country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as >>>>another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about
New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off >>topic
with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the >>young
marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.

You are wrong, and you lie. Mutley has not provided evidence that
Ardern is a marxist and you have not either. You are both wrong.

Ardern was the leader of the young marxist movemment in NZ, as I said. She was also President of the International Union of Socialist Youth, a mrxist organisation.
I have never lied here, unlike you and I am on this occasion exactly correct. You are desperate still. How sad, never mind.

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On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:55:23 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

Mutley has not provided evidence that Ardern is a marxist and you have
not either.

The right wing has regressed to the point where anybody who supports
abortion rights is considered “radical left”.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:55:23 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

Mutley has not provided evidence that Ardern is a marxist and you have
not either.

The right wing has regressed to the point where anybody who supports
abortion rights is considered “radical left”.

Maybe, however I don't know anybody who is right wing. There are no such in this news group and none in our elected government.. Maybe you have intimate knowledge of such people. It would be fasciniating to know.

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On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 06:08:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>>>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>>>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because >>>>>>Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he >>>>>>has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>>>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>>>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated, >>>>>>in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the >>>>>country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as >>>>>another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about >>>>New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off >>>topic
with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the >>>young
marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.

You are wrong, and you lie. Mutley has not provided evidence that
Ardern is a marxist and you have not either. You are both wrong.

Ardern was the leader of the young marxist movemment in NZ, as I said. She was >also President of the International Union of Socialist Youth, a mrxist >organisation.
I have never lied here, unlike you and I am on this occasion exactly correct. >You are desperate still. How sad, never mind.

You are still wrong, and have of course provided no evidence for your
incorrect assertions

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On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 06:31:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:55:23 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

Mutley has not provided evidence that Ardern is a marxist and you have
not either.

The right wing has regressed to the point where anybody who supports
abortion rights is considered �radical left�.

They don't see the irony of pushing "Freedom of Speech" to justify
unsupported assertion with an unwillingness to support people making
decisions in their own best interest.

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On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:02:15 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:55:23 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

Mutley has not provided evidence that Ardern is a marxist and you have
not either.

The right wing has regressed to the point where anybody who supports >>abortion rights is considered “radical left�?.

Maybe, however I don't know anybody who is right wing. There are no such in >this news group and none in our elected government.. Maybe you have intimate >knowledge of such people. It would be fasciniating to know.

Denial is not a river in Egypt, Tony. Try finding any reference to
anyone else holding your purported views - you appear to believe a
wild assertion from you amounts to absolute proof . . . self-delusion
may indicate wider problems . . .

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 06:08:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>>>>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>>>>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because >>>>>>>Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he >>>>>>>has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>>>>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>>>>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated, >>>>>>>in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the >>>>>>country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as >>>>>>another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about >>>>>New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off >>>>topic
with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the >>>>young
marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.

You are wrong, and you lie. Mutley has not provided evidence that
Ardern is a marxist and you have not either. You are both wrong.

Ardern was the leader of the young marxist movemment in NZ, as I said. She >>was
also President of the International Union of Socialist Youth, a mrxist >>organisation.
I have never lied here, unlike you and I am on this occasion exactly correct. >>You are desperate still. How sad, never mind.

You are still wrong, and have of course provided no evidence for your >incorrect assertions

Nope, you silly little thum sucker.
She is a marxist and her background is easy to google - try it before your thumb finally drops off.

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:02:15 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:55:23 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

Mutley has not provided evidence that Ardern is a marxist and you have >>>> not either.

The right wing has regressed to the point where anybody who supports >>>abortion rights is considered “radical left�?.

Maybe, however I don't know anybody who is right wing. There are no such in >>this news group and none in our elected government.. Maybe you have intimate >>knowledge of such people. It would be fasciniating to know.

Denial is not a river in Egypt, Tony. Try finding any reference to
anyone else holding your purported views - you appear to believe a
wild assertion from you amounts to absolute proof . . . self-delusion
may indicate wider problems . . .

Instead of that unintelligent and meaningless drivel, read this. Then address what I wrote instead of being abusive.
I don't know anybody who is right wing. There are no such in
this news group and none in our elected government.. Maybe you have intimate knowledge of such people. It would be fasciniating to know.

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 06:31:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:55:23 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

Mutley has not provided evidence that Ardern is a marxist and you have
not either.

The right wing has regressed to the point where anybody who supports >>abortion rights is considered �radical left�.

They don't see the irony of pushing "Freedom of Speech" to justify >unsupported assertion with an unwillingness to support people making >decisions in their own best interest.

Name the "They", they are not here or in this government.

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because >>>>>Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he >>>>>has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated, >>>>>in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the >>>>country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as >>>>another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about
New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off topic
with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the young
marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.

You are wrong, and you lie. Mutley has not provided evidence that
Ardern is a marxist and you have not either. You are both wrong.

Comrade Jacinda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig

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On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 09:13:52 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>>>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>>>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because >>>>>>Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he >>>>>>has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>>>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>>>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated, >>>>>>in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the >>>>>country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as >>>>>another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about >>>>New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off topic
with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the young
marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.

You are wrong, and you lie. Mutley has not provided evidence that
Ardern is a marxist and you have not either. You are both wrong.

Comrade Jacinda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig

Marxism not mentioned once. You probably get confused between
neo-liberalism and conservatism as well . . .

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 09:13:52 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>>>>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>>>>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because >>>>>>>Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he >>>>>>>has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>>>>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>>>>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated, >>>>>>>in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the >>>>>>country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as >>>>>>another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about >>>>>New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off >>>>topic
with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the >>>>young
marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.

You are wrong, and you lie. Mutley has not provided evidence that
Ardern is a marxist and you have not either. You are both wrong.

Comrade Jacinda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig

Marxism not mentioned once. You probably get confused between
neo-liberalism and conservatism as well . . .

Ardern is a marxist. As you predictably ignored earlier she was President of the International Union of Socialist Youth, a marxist
organisation. The video is of her addressing the NZ young marxist group of lost souls - people who probably believe in the tooth fairy as well as a left wing utopia.

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:22:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 09:13:52 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist >>>>>>>>>

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>>>>>>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>>>>>>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because >>>>>>>>>Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he >>>>>>>>>has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>>>>>>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>>>>>>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated, >>>>>>>>>in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the >>>>>>>>country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as >>>>>>>>another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about >>>>>>>New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off >>>>>>topic
with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the >>>>>>young
marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.

You are wrong, and you lie. Mutley has not provided evidence that >>>>>Ardern is a marxist and you have not either. You are both wrong. >>>>Comrade Jacinda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig

Marxism not mentioned once. You probably get confused between >>>neo-liberalism and conservatism as well . . .

Ardern is a marxist. As you predictably ignored earlier she was President of >>the International Union of Socialist Youth, a marxist
organisation. The video is of her addressing the NZ young marxist group of >>lost
souls - people who probably believe in the tooth fairy as well as a left wing >>utopia.

You have got carried away with far-right rhetoric, Tony. Socialism is
not marxism.

They are synonymous in the minds of most thinking people. In your case, your tiny mind cannot understand the link.
I don't know any far right people, neither do you. They are a rarity in this country except in the minds of marxists like you and your masters.

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Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:22:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 09:13:52 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist >>>>>>>>>

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>>>>>>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>>>>>>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because >>>>>>>>>Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he >>>>>>>>>has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>>>>>>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>>>>>>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated, >>>>>>>>>in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the >>>>>>>>country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as >>>>>>>>another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about >>>>>>>New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off >>>>>>topic
with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the >>>>>>young
marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.

You are wrong, and you lie. Mutley has not provided evidence that >>>>>Ardern is a marxist and you have not either. You are both wrong. >>>>Comrade Jacinda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig

Marxism not mentioned once. You probably get confused between >>>neo-liberalism and conservatism as well . . .

Ardern is a marxist. As you predictably ignored earlier she was President of >>the International Union of Socialist Youth, a marxist
organisation. The video is of her addressing the NZ young marxist group of >>lost
souls - people who probably believe in the tooth fairy as well as a left wing >>utopia.

You have got carried away with far-right rhetoric, Tony. Socialism is
not marxism.

They are synonymous in the minds of most people. In your case your tiny mind cannot understand the link.
I don't know any far right people, neither do you. They are a rarity in this country except in the minds of marxists like you and your masters.

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On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:22:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 09:13:52 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:55:55 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

Sometimes being honest and putting the country ahead of your own >>>>>>>>interests is the best anyone can do.

This article reminds me that recently John Key made it clear that he >>>>>>>>thinks Trump would be the best President for New Zealand - because >>>>>>>>Trump may result in better short term profits for a Company that he >>>>>>>>has been appointed a Director!

Christopher Luxon is being careful not to comment on the USA election, >>>>>>>>but this betrayal of world and New Zealand interests by a past Prime >>>>>>>>Minister of New Zealand really is quite offensive.

One more week - and we can only hope that Trump is soundly defeated, >>>>>>>>in the interests of the whole world.

And Ardern is a marxist who put her own well being ahead of the >>>>>>>country. Trump will soundly win as a Harris will be as bad as >>>>>>>another Ardern win in NZ.

You are off topic in this thread, Mutley - if you want to talk about >>>>>>New Zealand politicians post in a new thread

You hypocritical little child. Hardly a day passes when you don't go off >>>>>topic
with commentaries about New Zealand politicians.

, and provide some
evidence of your disgraceful slur on Ardern.

No slur. She was and is a Marxist - self confessed in fact. Leader of the >>>>>young
marxist movement for a time. Fact, no slur.

You are wrong, and you lie. Mutley has not provided evidence that >>>>Ardern is a marxist and you have not either. You are both wrong.

Comrade Jacinda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig

Marxism not mentioned once. You probably get confused between >>neo-liberalism and conservatism as well . . .

Ardern is a marxist. As you predictably ignored earlier she was President of >the International Union of Socialist Youth, a marxist
organisation. The video is of her addressing the NZ young marxist group of lost
souls - people who probably believe in the tooth fairy as well as a left wing >utopia.

You have got carried away with far-right rhetoric, Tony. Socialism is
not marxism.

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On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:09:24 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:

https://www.marytrump.org/p/we-cant-pull-punches-hes-a-fascist

13 former Trump officials come out to back up what John Kelly has said <https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/25/13-ex-trump-officials-back-kellys-stand-against-trump>.

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