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  • Re: How far off track will they get before being totally lost?

    From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 28 02:33:44 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Explaining economic influences: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/530904/austerity-and-recession-three-simple-graphs-that-explain-new-zealand-s-economic-crisis

    which finishes with:
    "Right now in New Zealand, the IS curve is remorselessly shifting left
    as the economy plunges into a deeper recession exacerbated by
    government austerity - an ideologically driven quest for instant
    fiscal surpluses, low public debt and a shrinking public sector
    relative to GDP.

    Falling interest rates will struggle to make expansionary headway
    against that austerity.

    Meanwhile, corporate profiteering and rising government charges
    continue to put upward pressure on the Phillips Curve, and the balance
    of payments is weakening. This means the country as a whole is piling
    up increasing debts to the rest of the world (largely through the >Australian-owned banks).

    The question is, does the current government understand where its
    policies are taking us?"

    and the results of our government being "Off Track" >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/531428/record-benefit-number-sparks-unemployment-warning
    and >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/531827/beneficiaries-not-getting-by-as-rental-costs-grow
    and >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/524919/watch-government-further-increases-sanctions-for-beneficiaries
    and >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/531113/the-sanctions-have-done-nothing-jobseekers-say-they-struggle-under-traffic-light-pressure

    The big question is whether the government will get to the half-way
    point, let alone a full three years. They are doing their best to pay
    off donors, but the economic effect of Seymour/Peters /Luxon appears
    to be toxic for most businesses . . .
    Only you could believe such rubbish.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 28 15:13:01 2024
    Explaining economic influences: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/530904/austerity-and-recession-three-simple-graphs-that-explain-new-zealand-s-economic-crisis

    which finishes with:
    "Right now in New Zealand, the IS curve is remorselessly shifting left
    as the economy plunges into a deeper recession exacerbated by
    government austerity - an ideologically driven quest for instant
    fiscal surpluses, low public debt and a shrinking public sector
    relative to GDP.

    Falling interest rates will struggle to make expansionary headway
    against that austerity.

    Meanwhile, corporate profiteering and rising government charges
    continue to put upward pressure on the Phillips Curve, and the balance
    of payments is weakening. This means the country as a whole is piling
    up increasing debts to the rest of the world (largely through the Australian-owned banks).

    The question is, does the current government understand where its
    policies are taking us?"

    and the results of our government being "Off Track" https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/531428/record-benefit-number-sparks-unemployment-warning
    and https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/531827/beneficiaries-not-getting-by-as-rental-costs-grow
    and https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/524919/watch-government-further-increases-sanctions-for-beneficiaries
    and https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/531113/the-sanctions-have-done-nothing-jobseekers-say-they-struggle-under-traffic-light-pressure

    The big question is whether the government will get to the half-way
    point, let alone a full three years. They are doing their best to pay
    off donors, but the economic effect of Seymour/Peters /Luxon appears
    to be toxic for most businesses . . .

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 28 03:46:08 2024
    On 2024-10-28, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Explaining economic influences: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/530904/austerity-and-recession-three-simple-graphs-that-explain-new-zealand-s-economic-crisis

    which finishes with:
    "Right now in New Zealand, the IS curve is remorselessly shifting left
    as the economy plunges into a deeper recession exacerbated by
    government austerity - an ideologically driven quest for instant
    fiscal surpluses, low public debt and a shrinking public sector
    relative to GDP.

    Falling interest rates will struggle to make expansionary headway
    against that austerity.

    Meanwhile, corporate profiteering and rising government charges
    continue to put upward pressure on the Phillips Curve, and the balance
    of payments is weakening. This means the country as a whole is piling
    up increasing debts to the rest of the world (largely through the Australian-owned banks).

    The question is, does the current government understand where its
    policies are taking us?"

    and the results of our government being "Off Track" https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/531428/record-benefit-number-sparks-unemployment-warning
    and https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/531827/beneficiaries-not-getting-by-as-rental-costs-grow
    and https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/524919/watch-government-further-increases-sanctions-for-beneficiaries
    and https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/531113/the-sanctions-have-done-nothing-jobseekers-say-they-struggle-under-traffic-light-pressure

    The big question is whether the government will get to the half-way
    point, let alone a full three years. They are doing their best to pay
    off donors, but the economic effect of Seymour/Peters /Luxon appears
    to be toxic for most businesses . . .


    Crisis? It is just part of the cycle, so let us stop moaning, or panicing
    about it, and get on with the task of recovery.

    All this "mess" is the outfall of the last Governments actions. At the time some knew it was going to be a long time to make progress of an improvement.

    It takes longer to restore something than it takes to destory it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 28 18:07:18 2024
    On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 15:13:01 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Explaining economic influences: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/530904/austerity-and-recession-three-simple-graphs-that-explain-new-zealand-s-economic-crisis

    which finishes with:
    "Right now in New Zealand, the IS curve is remorselessly shifting left
    as the economy plunges into a deeper recession exacerbated by
    government austerity - an ideologically driven quest for instant
    fiscal surpluses, low public debt and a shrinking public sector
    relative to GDP.

    Falling interest rates will struggle to make expansionary headway
    against that austerity.

    Meanwhile, corporate profiteering and rising government charges
    continue to put upward pressure on the Phillips Curve, and the balance
    of payments is weakening. This means the country as a whole is piling
    up increasing debts to the rest of the world (largely through the >Australian-owned banks).

    The question is, does the current government understand where its
    policies are taking us?"

    and the results of our government being "Off Track" >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/531428/record-benefit-number-sparks-unemployment-warning
    and >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/531827/beneficiaries-not-getting-by-as-rental-costs-grow
    and >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/524919/watch-government-further-increases-sanctions-for-beneficiaries
    and >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/531113/the-sanctions-have-done-nothing-jobseekers-say-they-struggle-under-traffic-light-pressure

    The big question is whether the government will get to the half-way
    point, let alone a full three years. They are doing their best to pay
    off donors, but the economic effect of Seymour/Peters /Luxon appears
    to be toxic for most businesses . . .


    Your dreaming Rich. The big questions are:

    1. Who will be the next Labour PM? The sooner they get into
    Parliament the better from Labour's POV.

    2. When will NZF fold? There is no leadership progression path yet
    so they will be finished when Winston retires or is not returned to
    Parliament.


    --
    Crash McBash

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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