• Trump and Seymour - both backed by the Atlas Network

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 14 13:44:18 2024
    See: https://newrepublic.com/article/188346/transcript-paul-krugman-badly-trump-voters-scammed

    Yes ACT is a relatively small party in the NZ government, but it has
    influence, through money, on a lot of policy issues. Importantly, ACT
    dominates the think tanks that are skilled at selling policies to
    National MPs that they think are their own, but in reality are
    financed by Atlas Network supporters. The NZ Taxpayer Union gives that
    a very public face, and is probably better financed than the National
    Party, but they also have those international Atlas links that can
    feed them ways to express ideas to get outrageous policies meekly
    supported by National Party politicians.

    Thanks fully we are not in as bad a position as the USA, but we are no
    less a dangerous position.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Nov 14 01:36:21 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    See: >https://newrepublic.com/article/188346/transcript-paul-krugman-badly-trump-voters-scammed

    Yes ACT is a relatively small party in the NZ government, but it has >influence, through money, on a lot of policy issues. Importantly, ACT >dominates the think tanks that are skilled at selling policies to
    National MPs that they think are their own, but in reality are
    financed by Atlas Network supporters. The NZ Taxpayer Union gives that
    a very public face, and is probably better financed than the National
    Party, but they also have those international Atlas links that can
    feed them ways to express ideas to get outrageous policies meekly
    supported by National Party politicians.

    Thanks fully we are not in as bad a position as the USA, but we are no
    less a dangerous position.
    Absolute nonsense.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 14 16:45:34 2024
    On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:44:18 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    See: >https://newrepublic.com/article/188346/transcript-paul-krugman-badly-trump-voters-scammed

    Yes ACT is a relatively small party in the NZ government, but it has >influence, through money, on a lot of policy issues. Importantly, ACT >dominates the think tanks that are skilled at selling policies to
    National MPs that they think are their own, but in reality are
    financed by Atlas Network supporters. The NZ Taxpayer Union gives that
    a very public face, and is probably better financed than the National
    Party, but they also have those international Atlas links that can
    feed them ways to express ideas to get outrageous policies meekly
    supported by National Party politicians.

    You really are in fairy-land Rich. You cannot cite any of this but
    still believe all this crap.

    Thanks fully we are not in as bad a position as the USA, but we are no
    less a dangerous position.

    The dangerous position we are in is that Labour might consider forming
    a government supported by the Maori Party.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Nov 14 22:18:18 2024
    On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 01:36:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    See: >>https://newrepublic.com/article/188346/transcript-paul-krugman-badly-trump-voters-scammed

    Yes ACT is a relatively small party in the NZ government, but it has >>influence, through money, on a lot of policy issues. Importantly, ACT >>dominates the think tanks that are skilled at selling policies to
    National MPs that they think are their own, but in reality are
    financed by Atlas Network supporters. The NZ Taxpayer Union gives that
    a very public face, and is probably better financed than the National >>Party, but they also have those international Atlas links that can
    feed them ways to express ideas to get outrageous policies meekly
    supported by National Party politicians.

    Thanks fully we are not in as bad a position as the USA, but we are no
    less a dangerous position.
    Absolute nonsense.

    Yes your response is as usual a brain-fart with a total lack of
    argument or justification. Perhaps you are an ACT supporter . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Nov 14 20:29:09 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 01:36:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    See: >>>https://newrepublic.com/article/188346/transcript-paul-krugman-badly-trump-voters-scammed

    Yes ACT is a relatively small party in the NZ government, but it has >>>influence, through money, on a lot of policy issues. Importantly, ACT >>>dominates the think tanks that are skilled at selling policies to >>>National MPs that they think are their own, but in reality are
    financed by Atlas Network supporters. The NZ Taxpayer Union gives that
    a very public face, and is probably better financed than the National >>>Party, but they also have those international Atlas links that can
    feed them ways to express ideas to get outrageous policies meekly >>>supported by National Party politicians.

    Thanks fully we are not in as bad a position as the USA, but we are no >>>less a dangerous position.
    Absolute nonsense.

    Yes your response is as usual a brain-fart with a total lack of
    argument or justification. Perhaps you are an ACT supporter . . .
    More nonsense, and abuse.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Gordon on Thu Nov 14 23:59:34 2024
    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2024-11-14, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:44:18 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    See: >>>https://newrepublic.com/article/188346/transcript-paul-krugman-badly-trump-voters-scammed

    Yes ACT is a relatively small party in the NZ government, but it has >>>influence, through money, on a lot of policy issues. Importantly, ACT >>>dominates the think tanks that are skilled at selling policies to >>>National MPs that they think are their own, but in reality are
    financed by Atlas Network supporters. The NZ Taxpayer Union gives that
    a very public face, and is probably better financed than the National >>>Party, but they also have those international Atlas links that can
    feed them ways to express ideas to get outrageous policies meekly >>>supported by National Party politicians.

    You really are in fairy-land Rich. You cannot cite any of this but
    still believe all this crap.

    Thanks fully we are not in as bad a position as the USA, but we are no >>>less a dangerous position.

    The dangerous position we are in is that Labour might consider forming
    a government supported by the Maori Party.


    The USA was in a similar postion before the election on 5 November but
    common sense ruled the day. The UK have gone hard left and things are not >going to well.
    No, and they never will unless a more moderate parliament is elected.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Crash on Thu Nov 14 23:27:04 2024
    On 2024-11-14, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:44:18 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    See: >>https://newrepublic.com/article/188346/transcript-paul-krugman-badly-trump-voters-scammed

    Yes ACT is a relatively small party in the NZ government, but it has >>influence, through money, on a lot of policy issues. Importantly, ACT >>dominates the think tanks that are skilled at selling policies to
    National MPs that they think are their own, but in reality are
    financed by Atlas Network supporters. The NZ Taxpayer Union gives that
    a very public face, and is probably better financed than the National >>Party, but they also have those international Atlas links that can
    feed them ways to express ideas to get outrageous policies meekly
    supported by National Party politicians.

    You really are in fairy-land Rich. You cannot cite any of this but
    still believe all this crap.

    Thanks fully we are not in as bad a position as the USA, but we are no
    less a dangerous position.

    The dangerous position we are in is that Labour might consider forming
    a government supported by the Maori Party.


    The USA was in a similar postion before the election on 5 November but
    common sense ruled the day. The UK have gone hard left and things are not
    going to well.

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