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They did it to themselve and good riddance.
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more honest >media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the media >themselves.
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:07:42 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, that is your bias showing. I get it from many sources, as do all thinking people. you should try it.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://centrist.nz/nz-media-downturn-accelerates/?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22-11-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
They did it to themselve and good riddance.
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more honest >>media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the media >>themselves.
And you get this from a strongly partisan propaganda site that is pat
of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas Network grouping?
You would not recognise honesty if it hit you in the face, TonyYou really are a childish fool. I am inherently honest, something you cannot possibly comprehend.
https://centrist.nz/nz-media-downturn-accelerates/?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22-11-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
They did it to themselve and good riddance.
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more honest media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the media themselves.
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:07:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://centrist.nz/nz-media-downturn-accelerates/?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22-11-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
They did it to themselve and good riddance.
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more honest >>media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the media >>themselves.
And you get this from a strongly partisan propaganda site that is pat
of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas Network grouping?
You would not recognise honesty if it hit you in the face, Tony
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:43:54 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:07:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
They did it to themselve and good riddance.https://centrist.nz/nz-media-downturn-accelerates/?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22-11-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more honest >>>media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the media >>>themselves.
And you get this from a strongly partisan propaganda site that is pat
of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas Network grouping?
You would not recognise honesty if it hit you in the face, Tony
You make such accusations with no cited evidence
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:06:26 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:43:54 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:07:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
They did it to themselve and good riddance.https://centrist.nz/nz-media-downturn-accelerates/?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22-11-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more honest >>>>media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the media
themselves.
And you get this from a strongly partisan propaganda site that is pat
of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas Network grouping?
You would not recognise honesty if it hit you in the face, Tony
You make such accusations with no cited evidence
Where is the evidence for the Tony?
See this link from the same website: >https://centrist.nz/silenced-in-the-school-speech-contest-free-speech-clash-at-new-plymouth-boys-high/
That gives specific reference to the "Free Speech Union
There seems to be a theme of "don't trust "The News" . . ." which
seeks to get gullible readers to think they are getting unbiased
summaries of "news" from The Centrist website . . . . >https://centrist.nz/and-media-bosses-wonder-why-no-one-trusts-the-news-anymore/
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:06:26 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>I posted an opinion. you posted your usual repetitive lies.
wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:43:54 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:07:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
They did it to themselve and good riddance.https://centrist.nz/nz-media-downturn-accelerates/?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22-11-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more honest >>>>media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the >>>>media
themselves.
And you get this from a strongly partisan propaganda site that is pat
of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas Network grouping?
You would not recognise honesty if it hit you in the face, Tony
You make such accusations with no cited evidence
Where is the evidence for the Tony?
See this link from the same website: >https://centrist.nz/silenced-in-the-school-speech-contest-free-speech-clash-at-new-plymouth-boys-high/
That gives specific reference to the "Free Speech Union
There seems to be a theme of "don't trust "The News" . . ." which
seeks to get gullible readers to think they are getting unbiased
summaries of "news" from The Centrist website . . . . >https://centrist.nz/and-media-bosses-wonder-why-no-one-trusts-the-news-anymore/
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 19:12:53 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>Sorry I was not clear - I should have said where is the evidence for
wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:06:26 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:I responded to you and your claims Rich - not Tony.
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:43:54 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:07:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
They did it to themselve and good riddance.https://centrist.nz/nz-media-downturn-accelerates/?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22-11-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more honest
media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the media
themselves.
And you get this from a strongly partisan propaganda site that is pat >>>>of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas Network grouping?
You would not recognise honesty if it hit you in the face, Tony
You make such accusations with no cited evidence
Where is the evidence for the Tony?
See this link from the same website: >>https://centrist.nz/silenced-in-the-school-speech-contest-free-speech-clash-at-new-plymouth-boys-high/So what is your point Rich? In respect of the issues Jull faced, why
That gives specific reference to the "Free Speech Union
There seems to be a theme of "don't trust "The News" . . ." which
seeks to get gullible readers to think they are getting unbiased
summaries of "news" from The Centrist website . . . . >>https://centrist.nz/and-media-bosses-wonder-why-no-one-trusts-the-news-anymore/
do you draw attention to who he sought support from?
You posted the comment about Centrist: "you get this from a strongly
partisan propaganda site that is pat of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas
Network grouping?". You have no credible evidence of this. I have
noted that sources that host opinions with which you disagree are
routinely labeled by you as 'far right' with connections to 'the Atlas >Network' with no supporting evidence.
Such is the political rhetoric you invent in your crusade against the
current Government.
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 20:03:48 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>The answer has already been given but chulldren need things repeated often - It was an opinion - they are permitted.
wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 19:12:53 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:Sorry I was not clear - I should have said where is the evidence for
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:06:26 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:I responded to you and your claims Rich - not Tony.
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:43:54 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:07:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
They did it to themselve and good riddance.https://centrist.nz/nz-media-downturn-accelerates/?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22-11-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more >>>>>>honest
media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the >>>>>>media
themselves.
And you get this from a strongly partisan propaganda site that is pat >>>>>of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas Network grouping?
You would not recognise honesty if it hit you in the face, Tony
You make such accusations with no cited evidence
Where is the evidence for the Tony?
the assertions by Tony.
It would not be hard to find more honestThe Centrist is honest, therefore you hate them,
media than "The Centrist"
Sreaking of evidence - do you have the slightest evidence of that very unlikely situation?
See this link from the same website: >>>https://centrist.nz/silenced-in-the-school-speech-contest-free-speech-clash-at-new-plymouth-boys-high/So what is your point Rich? In respect of the issues Jull faced, why
That gives specific reference to the "Free Speech Union
There seems to be a theme of "don't trust "The News" . . ." which
seeks to get gullible readers to think they are getting unbiased >>>summaries of "news" from The Centrist website . . . . >>>https://centrist.nz/and-media-bosses-wonder-why-no-one-trusts-the-news-anymore/
do you draw attention to who he sought support from?
You posted the comment about Centrist: "you get this from a strongly >>partisan propaganda site that is pat of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas >>Network grouping?". You have no credible evidence of this. I have
noted that sources that host opinions with which you disagree are
routinely labeled by you as 'far right' with connections to 'the Atlas >>Network' with no supporting evidence.
Such is the political rhetoric you invent in your crusade against the >>current Government.
The Centrist is a continuation of previous Taxpayer Union sponsored
websites - this one is better hidden in terms of ownership, but when
it started it acknowledged that it came from an earlier site that had >articles by a previous board member of the NZ Taxpayer Union.
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 19:22:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 20:03:48 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:The answer has already been given but chulldren need things repeated often - >>It
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 19:12:53 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:Sorry I was not clear - I should have said where is the evidence for
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:06:26 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:I responded to you and your claims Rich - not Tony.
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:43:54 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:07:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
They did it to themselve and good riddance.https://centrist.nz/nz-media-downturn-accelerates/?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22-11-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more >>>>>>>>honest
media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the >>>>>>>>media
themselves.
And you get this from a strongly partisan propaganda site that is pat >>>>>>>of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas Network grouping?
You would not recognise honesty if it hit you in the face, Tony
You make such accusations with no cited evidence
Where is the evidence for the Tony?
the assertions by Tony.
was an opinion - they are permitted.
It would not be hard to find more honestThe Centrist is honest, therefore you hate them,
media than "The Centrist"
Sreaking of evidence - do you have the slightest evidence of that very >>unlikely
See this link from the same website: >>>>>https://centrist.nz/silenced-in-the-school-speech-contest-free-speech-clash-at-new-plymouth-boys-high/So what is your point Rich? In respect of the issues Jull faced, why >>>>do you draw attention to who he sought support from?
That gives specific reference to the "Free Speech Union
There seems to be a theme of "don't trust "The News" . . ." which >>>>>seeks to get gullible readers to think they are getting unbiased >>>>>summaries of "news" from The Centrist website . . . . >>>>>https://centrist.nz/and-media-bosses-wonder-why-no-one-trusts-the-news-anymore/
You posted the comment about Centrist: "you get this from a strongly >>>>partisan propaganda site that is pat of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas >>>>Network grouping?". You have no credible evidence of this. I have >>>>noted that sources that host opinions with which you disagree are >>>>routinely labeled by you as 'far right' with connections to 'the Atlas >>>>Network' with no supporting evidence.
Such is the political rhetoric you invent in your crusade against the >>>>current Government.
The Centrist is a continuation of previous Taxpayer Union sponsored >>>websites - this one is better hidden in terms of ownership, but when
it started it acknowledged that it came from an earlier site that had >>>articles by a previous board member of the NZ Taxpayer Union.
situation?
Tony, my bet is that Rich cannot produce any such evidence. The
Centrist is careful not to name those involved in the organisation,
but clearly aims to be in the centre of politics (as opposed to left
and right wing in my view).
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 20:03:48 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:The answer has already been given but chulldren need things repeated often - It
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 19:12:53 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:Sorry I was not clear - I should have said where is the evidence for
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:06:26 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:I responded to you and your claims Rich - not Tony.
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:43:54 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:07:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
They did it to themselve and good riddance.https://centrist.nz/nz-media-downturn-accelerates/?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22-11-2024&_kx=r-9yRwOooklJ4fu8JfYI0L2yjNQJoEDhB4PntHsLeWo.VYfxNg
Out of the ashes should come a smaller, smarter, and infinitely more >>>>>>>honest
media. Meanwhile the pain must be endured by those that caused it, the >>>>>>>media
themselves.
And you get this from a strongly partisan propaganda site that is pat >>>>>>of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas Network grouping?
You would not recognise honesty if it hit you in the face, Tony
You make such accusations with no cited evidence
Where is the evidence for the Tony?
the assertions by Tony.
was an opinion - they are permitted.
It would not be hard to find more honestThe Centrist is honest, therefore you hate them,
media than "The Centrist"
Sreaking of evidence - do you have the slightest evidence of that very unlikely
See this link from the same website: >>>>https://centrist.nz/silenced-in-the-school-speech-contest-free-speech-clash-at-new-plymouth-boys-high/So what is your point Rich? In respect of the issues Jull faced, why
That gives specific reference to the "Free Speech Union
There seems to be a theme of "don't trust "The News" . . ." which
seeks to get gullible readers to think they are getting unbiased >>>>summaries of "news" from The Centrist website . . . . >>>>https://centrist.nz/and-media-bosses-wonder-why-no-one-trusts-the-news-anymore/
do you draw attention to who he sought support from?
You posted the comment about Centrist: "you get this from a strongly >>>partisan propaganda site that is pat of the NZ Taxpayer Union / Atlas >>>Network grouping?". You have no credible evidence of this. I have
noted that sources that host opinions with which you disagree are >>>routinely labeled by you as 'far right' with connections to 'the Atlas >>>Network' with no supporting evidence.
Such is the political rhetoric you invent in your crusade against the >>>current Government.
The Centrist is a continuation of previous Taxpayer Union sponsored >>websites - this one is better hidden in terms of ownership, but when
it started it acknowledged that it came from an earlier site that had >>articles by a previous board member of the NZ Taxpayer Union.
situation?
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