A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up forIt was a childish and obvious political stunt. She was doing whatever she could to prevent the house from debating, which is what the house is there for.
the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad
attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and
determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human
rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for
other young politicians.
https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/12/04/te-pati-maori-mp-named-in-bbcs-top-100-women-of-2024/
A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up for
the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad
attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and
determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human
rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for
other young politicians.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/12/04/te-pati-maori-mp-named-in-bbcs-top-100-women-of-2024/
It was a childish and obvious political stunt. She was doing whatever she could
A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up for
the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad
attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and >>determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human >>rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for
other young politicians.
to prevent the house from debating, which is what the house is there for.
The BBC clearly has no understanding of what goes on here and the racist >attacks on democracy by TPM and people like you.
https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/12/04/te-pati-maori-mp-named-in-bbcs-top-100-women-of-2024/
A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up for
the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad
attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and
determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human
rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for
other young politicians.
On 7 Dec 2024 21:32:59 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:That is not even similar to what she did. She deliberately abused her privileges as an MP. She is a servant of the people and the crown and failed miserably in both requirements.
On 2024-12-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/12/04/te-pati-maori-mp-named-in-bbcs-top-100-women-of-2024/
A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up for
the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad
attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and
determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human
rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for
other young politicians.
From the article
"Since being elected she has become known internationally thanks to the haka >>she led at Parliament in November, the video of which made headlines around the
world."
This is the woman who disrespected Parliament. Disgraceful behavour. The law >>of the land
challanged. And now she is being honoured be the BBC. Certainly the Jaguar >>rebranding is no longer in first place.
What rubbish - Parliament has seen a Haka on a number of occasions -
it is a way of getting a message across, and those messages can be of >welcome, of challenge, of celebration, and of sending a message. They
have been performed in parliament on other occasions. The time taken
was relatively trivial for Parliament; and as for disrespect, that was
part of the reason for the protest - ACT and to a lesser extent
National cannot expect to act in racist and offensive ways without
some protest, but there was no challenge to our laws; the disrespect
was to .
You are so wrong that you have never been mreso in your life.The BBC is now at the bottom of quality.They identified a woman that made a political point - objection to the >deliberately offensive Bill to renege on a Treaty - it is probably on
a similar level to the effective action of Marilyn Waring in advising
Muldoon that she would vote according to her conscience in relation to >nuclear policy - which led to Muldoon calling an election which he
lost heavily. The actions of Luxon and Peters in promising to allow a
bill that they had not seen to be introduced were stupid, but worse
has been their allowing it to fester for such a long period. Offensive
racist and dishonourable proposals from ACT have been met with
emphatic and robust, but ultimately appropriate in reminding members
of parliament that New Zealanders value their heritage, their
tolerance, and that we do not take kindly to a government that does
not honour commitments made by our government - reneging on a contract
and insulting the other party to that contract is offensive to most
New Zealanders, but in this case particularly to Maori. That issue
will not have been lost to the other countries that have covered the
issues - coverage that will have been assisted by the nature of the
protest in parliament. Maori is an official language, and even
National and ACT politicians have been known to say a few words in
that language - so suck it up and just accept that the Treaty
Principles Bill is more offensive to New Zealanders than most bills
that have ever been put to our parliament.
On 2024-12-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/12/04/te-pati-maori-mp-named-in-bbcs-top-100-women-of-2024/
A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up for
the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad
attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and
determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human
rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for
other young politicians.
From the article
"Since being elected she has become known internationally thanks to the haka she led at Parliament in November, the video of which made headlines around the
world."
This is the woman who disrespected Parliament. Disgraceful behavour. The law of the land
challanged. And now she is being honoured be the BBC. Certainly the Jaguar >rebranding is no longer in first place.
The BBC is now at the bottom of quality.They identified a woman that made a political point - objection to the deliberately offensive Bill to renege on a Treaty - it is probably on
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 7 Dec 2024 21:32:59 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:That is not even similar to what she did. She deliberately abused her >privileges as an MP. She is a servant of the people and the crown and failed >miserably in both requirements.
On 2024-12-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/12/04/te-pati-maori-mp-named-in-bbcs-top-100-women-of-2024/
A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up for
the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad
attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and
determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human >>>> rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for
other young politicians.
From the article
"Since being elected she has become known internationally thanks to the haka >>>she led at Parliament in November, the video of which made headlines around the
world."
This is the woman who disrespected Parliament. Disgraceful behavour. The law >>>of the land
challanged. And now she is being honoured be the BBC. Certainly the Jaguar >>>rebranding is no longer in first place.
What rubbish - Parliament has seen a Haka on a number of occasions -
it is a way of getting a message across, and those messages can be of >>welcome, of challenge, of celebration, and of sending a message. They
have been performed in parliament on other occasions. The time taken
was relatively trivial for Parliament; and as for disrespect, that was
part of the reason for the protest - ACT and to a lesser extent
National cannot expect to act in racist and offensive ways without
some protest, but there was no challenge to our laws; the disrespect
was to .
I fervently hope that she and the rest of TPM are unceremoniously kicked out at
the next election. Hopefully replaced by real Maori politicians, you know - the
ones that are not greedy and racist.
You are so wrong that you have never been mreso in your life.
The BBC is now at the bottom of quality.They identified a woman that made a political point - objection to the >>deliberately offensive Bill to renege on a Treaty - it is probably on
a similar level to the effective action of Marilyn Waring in advising >>Muldoon that she would vote according to her conscience in relation to >>nuclear policy - which led to Muldoon calling an election which he
lost heavily. The actions of Luxon and Peters in promising to allow a
bill that they had not seen to be introduced were stupid, but worse
has been their allowing it to fester for such a long period. Offensive >>racist and dishonourable proposals from ACT have been met with
emphatic and robust, but ultimately appropriate in reminding members
of parliament that New Zealanders value their heritage, their
tolerance, and that we do not take kindly to a government that does
not honour commitments made by our government - reneging on a contract
and insulting the other party to that contract is offensive to most
New Zealanders, but in this case particularly to Maori. That issue
will not have been lost to the other countries that have covered the
issues - coverage that will have been assisted by the nature of the
protest in parliament. Maori is an official language, and even
National and ACT politicians have been known to say a few words in
that language - so suck it up and just accept that the Treaty
Principles Bill is more offensive to New Zealanders than most bills
that have ever been put to our parliament.
All you are is cheap politcal and racist rhetoric.
On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 08:09:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 7 Dec 2024 21:32:59 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:That is not even similar to what she did. She deliberately abused her >>privileges as an MP. She is a servant of the people and the crown and failed >>miserably in both requirements.
On 2024-12-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/12/04/te-pati-maori-mp-named-in-bbcs-top-100-women-of-2024/
A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up for >>>>> the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad
attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and
determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human >>>>> rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for >>>>> other young politicians.
From the article
"Since being elected she has become known internationally thanks to the haka
she led at Parliament in November, the video of which made headlines around the
world."
This is the woman who disrespected Parliament. Disgraceful behavour. The law
of the land
challanged. And now she is being honoured be the BBC. Certainly the Jaguar >>>>rebranding is no longer in first place.
What rubbish - Parliament has seen a Haka on a number of occasions -
it is a way of getting a message across, and those messages can be of >>>welcome, of challenge, of celebration, and of sending a message. They >>>have been performed in parliament on other occasions. The time taken
was relatively trivial for Parliament; and as for disrespect, that was >>>part of the reason for the protest - ACT and to a lesser extent
National cannot expect to act in racist and offensive ways without
some protest, but there was no challenge to our laws; the disrespect
was to .
I fervently hope that she and the rest of TPM are unceremoniously kicked out at
the next election. Hopefully replaced by real Maori politicians, you know - the
ones that are not greedy and racist.
You are correct Tony - but the Maori Party has become an extremist
fringe group now.
You are so wrong that you have never been mreso in your life.
The BBC is now at the bottom of quality.They identified a woman that made a political point - objection to the >>>deliberately offensive Bill to renege on a Treaty - it is probably on
a similar level to the effective action of Marilyn Waring in advising >>>Muldoon that she would vote according to her conscience in relation to >>>nuclear policy - which led to Muldoon calling an election which he
lost heavily. The actions of Luxon and Peters in promising to allow a >>>bill that they had not seen to be introduced were stupid, but worse
has been their allowing it to fester for such a long period. Offensive >>>racist and dishonourable proposals from ACT have been met with
emphatic and robust, but ultimately appropriate in reminding members
of parliament that New Zealanders value their heritage, their
tolerance, and that we do not take kindly to a government that does
not honour commitments made by our government - reneging on a contract >>>and insulting the other party to that contract is offensive to most
New Zealanders, but in this case particularly to Maori. That issue
will not have been lost to the other countries that have covered the >>>issues - coverage that will have been assisted by the nature of the >>>protest in parliament. Maori is an official language, and even
National and ACT politicians have been known to say a few words in
that language - so suck it up and just accept that the Treaty
Principles Bill is more offensive to New Zealanders than most bills
that have ever been put to our parliament.
All you are is cheap politcal and racist rhetoric.
The Maori Party is the same. They are consigned to represent minority
of Maori on the Maori electoral role through the Maori electorate
seats. Those that vote in Maori electorates do not party-vote for the
Maori party.
On Sun, 08 Dec 2024 21:25:25 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 08:09:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 7 Dec 2024 21:32:59 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:That is not even similar to what she did. She deliberately abused her >>>privileges as an MP. She is a servant of the people and the crown and failed >>>miserably in both requirements.
On 2024-12-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/12/04/te-pati-maori-mp-named-in-bbcs-top-100-women-of-2024/
A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up for >>>>>> the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad
attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and
determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human >>>>>> rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for >>>>>> other young politicians.
From the article
"Since being elected she has become known internationally thanks to the haka
she led at Parliament in November, the video of which made headlines around the
world."
This is the woman who disrespected Parliament. Disgraceful behavour. The law
of the land
challanged. And now she is being honoured be the BBC. Certainly the Jaguar >>>>>rebranding is no longer in first place.
What rubbish - Parliament has seen a Haka on a number of occasions -
it is a way of getting a message across, and those messages can be of >>>>welcome, of challenge, of celebration, and of sending a message. They >>>>have been performed in parliament on other occasions. The time taken >>>>was relatively trivial for Parliament; and as for disrespect, that was >>>>part of the reason for the protest - ACT and to a lesser extent >>>>National cannot expect to act in racist and offensive ways without
some protest, but there was no challenge to our laws; the disrespect >>>>was to .
I fervently hope that she and the rest of TPM are unceremoniously kicked out at
the next election. Hopefully replaced by real Maori politicians, you know - the
ones that are not greedy and racist.
You are correct Tony - but the Maori Party has become an extremist
fringe group now.
You are so wrong that you have never been mreso in your life.
The BBC is now at the bottom of quality.They identified a woman that made a political point - objection to the >>>>deliberately offensive Bill to renege on a Treaty - it is probably on
a similar level to the effective action of Marilyn Waring in advising >>>>Muldoon that she would vote according to her conscience in relation to >>>>nuclear policy - which led to Muldoon calling an election which he
lost heavily. The actions of Luxon and Peters in promising to allow a >>>>bill that they had not seen to be introduced were stupid, but worse
has been their allowing it to fester for such a long period. Offensive >>>>racist and dishonourable proposals from ACT have been met with
emphatic and robust, but ultimately appropriate in reminding members
of parliament that New Zealanders value their heritage, their >>>>tolerance, and that we do not take kindly to a government that does
not honour commitments made by our government - reneging on a contract >>>>and insulting the other party to that contract is offensive to most
New Zealanders, but in this case particularly to Maori. That issue
will not have been lost to the other countries that have covered the >>>>issues - coverage that will have been assisted by the nature of the >>>>protest in parliament. Maori is an official language, and even
National and ACT politicians have been known to say a few words in
that language - so suck it up and just accept that the Treaty >>>>Principles Bill is more offensive to New Zealanders than most bills >>>>that have ever been put to our parliament.
All you are is cheap politcal and racist rhetoric.
The Maori Party is the same. They are consigned to represent minority
of Maori on the Maori electoral role through the Maori electorate
seats. Those that vote in Maori electorates do not party-vote for the >>Maori party.
Is there something wrong with voting for a candidate for the
electorate and a different party for the party vote? Are you implying
that the agreement between National and ACT to push the Epsom
electorate to vote for the ACT candidate but give their electorate
vote to National is in some way reprehensible? I have seen no evidence
of any agreement between Te Pati Maori and any other party to copy the >Nat/ACT agreement - do you have any such evidence?
On Sun, 08 Dec 2024 21:45:05 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>That is offensive as you intended. I am not blind to any of the political parties in this country. I support none of them.
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Dec 2024 21:31:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Sun, 08 Dec 2024 21:25:25 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 08:09:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 7 Dec 2024 21:32:59 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:That is not even similar to what she did. She deliberately abused her >>>>>privileges as an MP. She is a servant of the people and the crown and >>>>>failed
On 2024-12-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/12/04/te-pati-maori-mp-named-in-bbcs-top-100-women-of-2024/
A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up for >>>>>>>> the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad >>>>>>>> attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and >>>>>>>> determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human >>>>>>>> rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for >>>>>>>> other young politicians.
From the article
"Since being elected she has become known internationally thanks to the >>>>>>>haka
she led at Parliament in November, the video of which made headlines >>>>>>>around the
world."
This is the woman who disrespected Parliament. Disgraceful behavour. The >>>>>>>law
of the land
challanged. And now she is being honoured be the BBC. Certainly the >>>>>>>Jaguar
rebranding is no longer in first place.
What rubbish - Parliament has seen a Haka on a number of occasions - >>>>>>it is a way of getting a message across, and those messages can be of >>>>>>welcome, of challenge, of celebration, and of sending a message. They >>>>>>have been performed in parliament on other occasions. The time taken >>>>>>was relatively trivial for Parliament; and as for disrespect, that was >>>>>>part of the reason for the protest - ACT and to a lesser extent >>>>>>National cannot expect to act in racist and offensive ways without >>>>>>some protest, but there was no challenge to our laws; the disrespect >>>>>>was to .
miserably in both requirements.
I fervently hope that she and the rest of TPM are unceremoniously kicked >>>>>out at
the next election. Hopefully replaced by real Maori politicians, you know >>>>>- the
ones that are not greedy and racist.
You are correct Tony - but the Maori Party has become an extremist >>>>fringe group now.
You are so wrong that you have never been mreso in your life.
The BBC is now at the bottom of quality.They identified a woman that made a political point - objection to the >>>>>>deliberately offensive Bill to renege on a Treaty - it is probably on >>>>>>a similar level to the effective action of Marilyn Waring in advising >>>>>>Muldoon that she would vote according to her conscience in relation to >>>>>>nuclear policy - which led to Muldoon calling an election which he >>>>>>lost heavily. The actions of Luxon and Peters in promising to allow a >>>>>>bill that they had not seen to be introduced were stupid, but worse >>>>>>has been their allowing it to fester for such a long period. Offensive >>>>>>racist and dishonourable proposals from ACT have been met with >>>>>>emphatic and robust, but ultimately appropriate in reminding members >>>>>>of parliament that New Zealanders value their heritage, their >>>>>>tolerance, and that we do not take kindly to a government that does >>>>>>not honour commitments made by our government - reneging on a contract >>>>>>and insulting the other party to that contract is offensive to most >>>>>>New Zealanders, but in this case particularly to Maori. That issue >>>>>>will not have been lost to the other countries that have covered the >>>>>>issues - coverage that will have been assisted by the nature of the >>>>>>protest in parliament. Maori is an official language, and even >>>>>>National and ACT politicians have been known to say a few words in >>>>>>that language - so suck it up and just accept that the Treaty >>>>>>Principles Bill is more offensive to New Zealanders than most bills >>>>>>that have ever been put to our parliament.
All you are is cheap politcal and racist rhetoric.
The Maori Party is the same. They are consigned to represent minority >>>>of Maori on the Maori electoral role through the Maori electorate >>>>seats. Those that vote in Maori electorates do not party-vote for the >>>>Maori party.
Is there something wrong with voting for a candidate for the
electorate and a different party for the party vote? Are you implying >>>that the agreement between National and ACT to push the Epsom
electorate to vote for the ACT candidate but give their electorate
vote to National is in some way reprehensible? I have seen no evidence
of any agreement between Te Pati Maori and any other party to copy the >>>Nat/ACT agreement - do you have any such evidence?
There has been no recommendation by any political party in respect of
the Maori electorates to vote any way in respect of electorate vs
party votes. Comparisons with the Epsom electorate are therefore >>irrelevant.
Then there was little relevance to this thread in the implied
criticism of the Maori Party for supporters of that party voting for
the Maori Party in electorate seats, but voting for other parties in
the party seats. The "arrangement" in Epsom was designed to ensure
that ACT got at least one seat - more recently it has gained many
more, to the point that there is no reason for National to continue to >encourage Epsom voters to support a candidate for another party for
the electorate vote - ACT no longer needs the support of a second rate >National party candidate to gain one electorate seat.
Supporters of the Maori Party voting in Maori Seats may well however
not be confident that the party will gain enough votes to get party
seats in addition to electorate seats - in the past that situation has >applied to other parties.
The real lesson for all parties is that the "Deal" which allowed an
extremist Party, ACT, to gain a foothold was at the expense of the
National Party which gave the concession - ACT aligned itself with the
Atlas Network, and gained support, not just in terms of political
donations, but also in both policy and political tactics to push an
extreme agenda. They were lucky that National had a weak leader, but
ACT entered the coalition negotiations much better prepared than
National, who by then needed ACT to govern, and found ACT much clearer
and determined on some policy issues - and with the Treaty proposals
they find themselves locked into an agreement with the ACT party who
are demonstrating that they are prepared to break contracts and
agreements to achieve their extremist goals.
Tony is of course blind to the immorality of ACT;
many NationalThe Green party and the TPM are natural bedfellows, they are extreme left wing and strongly influenced by marxist beliefs and I hope they both go away to where they belong (oblivion). In addition to that TPM are racist and greedy. Greens are less so but still deluded.
supporters are horrified at the extent to which a weak leader has
allowed ACT to dominate on some issues. I know that at least some
National supporters would like to see a less weak leader of the
National Party, and also for a more electable National Party candidate
to stand in Epsom; The Labour Party is more willing to work with the
Green Party and the Maori Party in a future government - they do not
disagree with many Maori Party concerns over the racist policies of
the current government, and share with the Maori and Green Parties the
need for work to reduce poverty, and to achieve more equal
opportunities for young people.
On Sun, 08 Dec 2024 21:31:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Dec 2024 21:25:25 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 08:09:51 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 7 Dec 2024 21:32:59 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:That is not even similar to what she did. She deliberately abused her >>>>privileges as an MP. She is a servant of the people and the crown and failed
On 2024-12-07, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/12/04/te-pati-maori-mp-named-in-bbcs-top-100-women-of-2024/
A fitting tribute to a young woman that was prepared to stand up for >>>>>>> the values and beliefs of her party in a way that attracted broad >>>>>>> attention and appreciation from many, showing her strength and
determination and being an inspiration for many who stand up for human >>>>>>> rights and freedom of expression. An inspiration and a role model for >>>>>>> other young politicians.
From the article
"Since being elected she has become known internationally thanks to the haka
she led at Parliament in November, the video of which made headlines around the
world."
This is the woman who disrespected Parliament. Disgraceful behavour. The law
of the land
challanged. And now she is being honoured be the BBC. Certainly the Jaguar
rebranding is no longer in first place.
What rubbish - Parliament has seen a Haka on a number of occasions - >>>>>it is a way of getting a message across, and those messages can be of >>>>>welcome, of challenge, of celebration, and of sending a message. They >>>>>have been performed in parliament on other occasions. The time taken >>>>>was relatively trivial for Parliament; and as for disrespect, that was >>>>>part of the reason for the protest - ACT and to a lesser extent >>>>>National cannot expect to act in racist and offensive ways without >>>>>some protest, but there was no challenge to our laws; the disrespect >>>>>was to .
miserably in both requirements.
I fervently hope that she and the rest of TPM are unceremoniously kicked out at
the next election. Hopefully replaced by real Maori politicians, you know - the
ones that are not greedy and racist.
You are correct Tony - but the Maori Party has become an extremist
fringe group now.
You are so wrong that you have never been mreso in your life.
The BBC is now at the bottom of quality.They identified a woman that made a political point - objection to the >>>>>deliberately offensive Bill to renege on a Treaty - it is probably on >>>>>a similar level to the effective action of Marilyn Waring in advising >>>>>Muldoon that she would vote according to her conscience in relation to >>>>>nuclear policy - which led to Muldoon calling an election which he >>>>>lost heavily. The actions of Luxon and Peters in promising to allow a >>>>>bill that they had not seen to be introduced were stupid, but worse >>>>>has been their allowing it to fester for such a long period. Offensive >>>>>racist and dishonourable proposals from ACT have been met with >>>>>emphatic and robust, but ultimately appropriate in reminding members >>>>>of parliament that New Zealanders value their heritage, their >>>>>tolerance, and that we do not take kindly to a government that does >>>>>not honour commitments made by our government - reneging on a contract >>>>>and insulting the other party to that contract is offensive to most >>>>>New Zealanders, but in this case particularly to Maori. That issue >>>>>will not have been lost to the other countries that have covered the >>>>>issues - coverage that will have been assisted by the nature of the >>>>>protest in parliament. Maori is an official language, and even >>>>>National and ACT politicians have been known to say a few words in >>>>>that language - so suck it up and just accept that the Treaty >>>>>Principles Bill is more offensive to New Zealanders than most bills >>>>>that have ever been put to our parliament.
All you are is cheap politcal and racist rhetoric.
The Maori Party is the same. They are consigned to represent minority
of Maori on the Maori electoral role through the Maori electorate
seats. Those that vote in Maori electorates do not party-vote for the >>>Maori party.
Is there something wrong with voting for a candidate for the
electorate and a different party for the party vote? Are you implying
that the agreement between National and ACT to push the Epsom
electorate to vote for the ACT candidate but give their electorate
vote to National is in some way reprehensible? I have seen no evidence
of any agreement between Te Pati Maori and any other party to copy the >>Nat/ACT agreement - do you have any such evidence?
There has been no recommendation by any political party in respect of
the Maori electorates to vote any way in respect of electorate vs
party votes. Comparisons with the Epsom electorate are therefore
irrelevant.
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