• Flat out like a nation sinking.

    From Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 12 04:09:41 2024
    Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.

    This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.

    This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM pages.

    Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the
    ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Thu Dec 12 21:03:00 2024
    On 12 Dec 2024 04:09:41 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.

    This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.

    This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM >pages.

    Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the >ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.


    Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
    here is one link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHtAHw1u15g

    He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that
    certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
    low prices for electricity; instead we are handing out excessive
    profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
    Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
    a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop
    government building social housing as soon as they can after being
    elected ...

    Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to
    afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
    harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and
    encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
    fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords
    favourable tax treatment . . .
    Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
    - and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.

    But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
    New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
    supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a
    tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
    upset and blame.

    The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
    as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia

    Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim
    Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
    the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .

    So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Dec 12 08:20:54 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12 Dec 2024 04:09:41 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.

    This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.

    This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM >>pages.

    Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the >>ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.


    Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
    here is one link:
    Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your nappy today?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHtAHw1u15g

    He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that
    certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
    low prices for electricity
    Why? Do tell.
    ; instead we are handing out excessive
    profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
    Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
    a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop >government building social housing as soon as they can after being
    elected ...
    No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.

    Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to
    afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
    harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and
    encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
    fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords
    favourable tax treatment . . .
    Another lie. Landlords are in business.
    Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
    - and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
    Nope, you government did that.

    But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
    New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
    supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a
    tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
    upset and blame.
    Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.

    The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
    as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
    Nonsense.

    Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim
    Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
    the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .

    So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
    How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense?

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Fri Dec 13 09:41:47 2024
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12 Dec 2024 04:09:41 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.

    This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.

    This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM >>>pages.

    Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the >>>ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.


    Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
    here is one link:
    Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your nappy
    today?
    I'm happy to help you and other disadvantaged, Tony.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHtAHw1u15g

    He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that >>certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
    low prices for electricity
    Why? Do tell.
    Because we have abundant wind and solar and geothermal - there should
    be no need to either mine or import coal. The problem is that the
    energy companies have resource consents for more solar and wind
    generation, but relying on coal keeps the price of electricity high -
    and we all end up paying for the Bradford sell-off . . .

    ; instead we are handing out excessive
    profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
    Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
    a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop >>government building social housing as soon as they can after being
    elected ...
    No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.
    You really are a stupid plonker - try looking up Right Wing on Google.
    It is a relative term, Tony - get someone to explain it to you -
    nearly anyone else will have a better understanding than you.


    Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to >>afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
    harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and >>encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
    fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords >>favourable tax treatment . . .
    Another lie. Landlords are in business.
    Of course they are - and what better way of making more profits than a political party in your pocket giving concessionary tax benefits and
    now easier evictions.

    Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
    - and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
    Nope, you government did that.
    The current government is continuing to do that.

    But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
    New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
    supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a >>tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
    upset and blame.
    Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.
    Yet again you do not provide any evidence of your assertion - lets
    face it you believe your opinion is sufficient proof - that is how
    your hero Trump works . . .


    The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
    as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
    Nonsense.

    Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim >>Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
    the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .

    So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
    How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense? Very well - you have no evidence to contradict any of it - did you
    ever hold down a job, Tony?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Dec 12 21:18:34 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12 Dec 2024 04:09:41 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.

    This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.

    This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM >>>>pages.

    Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the >>>>ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.


    Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
    here is one link:
    Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your >>nappy
    today?
    I'm happy to help you and other disadvantaged, Tony.
    You have no ability to help anyone. Socopiaths never do.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHtAHw1u15g

    He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that >>>certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
    low prices for electricity
    Why? Do tell.
    Because we have abundant wind and solar and geothermal - there should
    be no need to either mine or import coal. The problem is that the
    energy companies have resource consents for more solar and wind
    generation, but relying on coal keeps the price of electricity high -
    and we all end up paying for the Bradford sell-off . . .
    No that is wrong, it was wrong last time you wrote it and it will be worng next time. Wind and solar are in their infancy despite what you might hope is true. The problems are serious and are yet to be resolved. Look back here for education on that issue.

    ; instead we are handing out excessive
    profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
    Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
    a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop >>>government building social housing as soon as they can after being >>>elected ...
    No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.
    You really are a stupid plonker - try looking up Right Wing on Google.
    It is a relative term, Tony - get someone to explain it to you -
    nearly anyone else will have a better understanding than you.
    Wrong again. Right is an absolute. It has never been reelative and never can be.
    Get some English help.


    Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to >>>afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
    harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and >>>encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
    fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords >>>favourable tax treatment . . .
    Another lie. Landlords are in business.
    Of course they are - and what better way of making more profits than a >political party in your pocket giving concessionary tax benefits and
    now easier evictions.
    As I wrote, that is not correct, it is a lie.

    Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
    - and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
    Nope, you government did that.
    The current government is continuing to do that.

    But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
    New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of >>>supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a >>>tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
    upset and blame.
    Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.
    Yet again you do not provide any evidence of your assertion - lets
    face it you believe your opinion is sufficient proof - that is how
    your hero Trump works . . .
    Trump is your hero, I hate the man but you think it annoys me when you tell that lie. Wrong again little man.
    The proof is clear to all who look. TPM are racist and so are you.


    The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
    as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
    Nonsense.

    Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim >>>Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
    the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .

    So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
    How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense? >Very well - you have no evidence to contradict any of it - did you
    ever hold down a job, Tony?
    There he is - the abusive little Rich who has never risen above assistant clerk in an obscure government department. Wasted his life failing to achieve political significancve and now resorts to abusing those who have achieved a lot. Wow - what a frailure you are.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Fri Dec 13 14:02:48 2024
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12 Dec 2024 04:09:41 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.

    This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.

    This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM
    pages.

    Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the >>>>>ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.


    Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it >>>>here is one link:
    Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your >>>nappy
    today?
    I'm happy to help you and other disadvantaged, Tony.
    You have no ability to help anyone. Socopiaths never do.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHtAHw1u15g

    He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that >>>>certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading >>>>low prices for electricity
    Why? Do tell.
    Because we have abundant wind and solar and geothermal - there should
    be no need to either mine or import coal. The problem is that the
    energy companies have resource consents for more solar and wind
    generation, but relying on coal keeps the price of electricity high -
    and we all end up paying for the Bradford sell-off . . .
    No that is wrong, it was wrong last time you wrote it and it will be worng next
    time. Wind and solar are in their infancy despite what you might hope is true. >The problems are serious and are yet to be resolved. Look back here for >education on that issue.

    ; instead we are handing out excessive
    profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
    Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
    a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop >>>>government building social housing as soon as they can after being >>>>elected ...
    No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.
    You really are a stupid plonker - try looking up Right Wing on Google.
    It is a relative term, Tony - get someone to explain it to you -
    nearly anyone else will have a better understanding than you.
    Wrong again. Right is an absolute. It has never been reelative and never can >be.
    Get some English help.


    Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to >>>>afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement >>>>harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and >>>>encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of >>>>fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords >>>>favourable tax treatment . . .
    Another lie. Landlords are in business.
    Of course they are - and what better way of making more profits than a >>political party in your pocket giving concessionary tax benefits and
    now easier evictions.
    As I wrote, that is not correct, it is a lie.

    Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
    - and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
    Nope, you government did that.
    The current government is continuing to do that.

    But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
    New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of >>>>supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a >>>>tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone >>>>upset and blame.
    Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.
    Yet again you do not provide any evidence of your assertion - lets
    face it you believe your opinion is sufficient proof - that is how
    your hero Trump works . . .
    Trump is your hero, I hate the man but you think it annoys me when you tell >that lie. Wrong again little man.
    The proof is clear to all who look. TPM are racist and so are you.


    The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is >>>>as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
    Nonsense.

    Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim >>>>Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running >>>>the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .

    So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
    How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense? >>Very well - you have no evidence to contradict any of it - did you
    ever hold down a job, Tony?
    There he is - the abusive little Rich who has never risen above assistant clerk
    in an obscure government department. Wasted his life failing to achieve >political significancve and now resorts to abusing those who have achieved a >lot. Wow - what a frailure you are.

    I am sorry for you Tony, but you are possibly used feeling frail and
    not understanding what other posters are saying; but clearly life is
    getting much harder for you. My best wishes to you for the time ahead.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 13 01:39:56 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12 Dec 2024 04:09:41 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.

    This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.

    This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the >>>>>>MSM
    pages.

    Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the >>>>>>ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.


    Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it >>>>>here is one link:
    Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your >>>>nappy
    today?
    I'm happy to help you and other disadvantaged, Tony.
    You have no ability to help anyone. Socopiaths never do.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHtAHw1u15g

    He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that >>>>>certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading >>>>>low prices for electricity
    Why? Do tell.
    Because we have abundant wind and solar and geothermal - there should
    be no need to either mine or import coal. The problem is that the
    energy companies have resource consents for more solar and wind >>>generation, but relying on coal keeps the price of electricity high -
    and we all end up paying for the Bradford sell-off . . .
    No that is wrong, it was wrong last time you wrote it and it will be worng >>next
    time. Wind and solar are in their infancy despite what you might hope is >>true.
    The problems are serious and are yet to be resolved. Look back here for >>education on that issue.

    ; instead we are handing out excessive
    profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
    Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again >>>>>a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop >>>>>government building social housing as soon as they can after being >>>>>elected ...
    No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.
    You really are a stupid plonker - try looking up Right Wing on Google.
    It is a relative term, Tony - get someone to explain it to you -
    nearly anyone else will have a better understanding than you.
    Wrong again. Right is an absolute. It has never been reelative and never can >>be.
    Get some English help.


    Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to >>>>>afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement >>>>>harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and >>>>>encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of >>>>>fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords >>>>>favourable tax treatment . . .
    Another lie. Landlords are in business.
    Of course they are - and what better way of making more profits than a >>>political party in your pocket giving concessionary tax benefits and
    now easier evictions.
    As I wrote, that is not correct, it is a lie.

    Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down >>>>>- and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
    Nope, you government did that.
    The current government is continuing to do that.

    But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in >>>>>New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of >>>>>supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a >>>>>tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone >>>>>upset and blame.
    Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that. >>>Yet again you do not provide any evidence of your assertion - lets
    face it you believe your opinion is sufficient proof - that is how
    your hero Trump works . . .
    Trump is your hero, I hate the man but you think it annoys me when you tell >>that lie. Wrong again little man.
    The proof is clear to all who look. TPM are racist and so are you.


    The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is >>>>>as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
    Nonsense.

    Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim >>>>>Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running >>>>>the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .

    So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
    How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense?
    Very well - you have no evidence to contradict any of it - did you
    ever hold down a job, Tony?
    There he is - the abusive little Rich who has never risen above assistant >>clerk
    in an obscure government department. Wasted his life failing to achieve >>political significancve and now resorts to abusing those who have achieved a >>lot. Wow - what a frailure you are.

    I am sorry for you Tony, but you are possibly used feeling frail and
    not understanding what other posters are saying; but clearly life is
    getting much harder for you. My best wishes to you for the time ahead.
    Just more sarcastic abuse from you.
    It is common for the afflicted to think others are the problem. You are the afflicted, you are the problem, you are the sociopath.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Dec 13 07:20:11 2024
    On 2024-12-12, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12 Dec 2024 04:09:41 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    Speech to Northern Beaches Liberal Party from Matt Barrie.

    This is worth 60 mins of your time reading this.

    This is the next battle/war which is underway now that Covid is off the MSM >>>pages.

    Keep these ideas in mind as you read the MSM news/propoganda, or even the >>>ideas in this newsgroup from our reporter Rich.


    Presumably this is the speech you refer to - to assist Tony find it
    here is one link:
    Three hours too late but aren't you a little baby - have you changed your nappy
    today?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHtAHw1u15g

    He starts off with an attack on making energy too expensive - that >>certainly applies to New Zealand, where we should have world-leading
    low prices for electricity
    Why? Do tell.
    ; instead we are handing out excessive
    profits to wealthy shareholders in New Zealand and overseas.
    Then he attacks the policies that have made housing expensive - again
    a direct parallel to the Right in New Zealand - notice how they stop >>government building social housing as soon as they can after being
    elected ...
    No right wing government has ever been elected here. You are lying.

    Then the struggle to pay for a house - young people need a lifetime to >>afford a deposit - and then in New Zealand we have made retirement
    harder by low contributions for Kiwisaver retirement provision, and >>encourage that to be further depleted by housing costs. Instead of
    fixing the problem, National has made it worse by giving landlords >>favourable tax treatment . . .
    Another lie. Landlords are in business.
    Then flooding the country with migrants to keep the minimum wage down
    - and on the way cutting young New Zealanders out of jobs.
    Nope, you government did that.

    I seem to remember that the minimum wage was raised several times during the Governments terms. Mind you this was set off by the inflation rate.

    But the twist through it all is the fostering of division - here in
    New Zealand that is being pushed by ACT through the pretence of
    supporting Free Speech the more hateful the more they will support a >>tourist spreading poison - that is the Trump tactic - make everyone
    upset and blame.
    Another lie. It is TPM and other racists like you that are doing that.

    The criticism of favouring the rich at the expense of the majority is
    as real in New Zealand as it is in Australia
    Nonsense.

    Barrie is probably as popular with the Liberal Party in Aussie as Jim >>Bolger would be here - they don't want his identification of running
    the country for the benefit of the wealthy . . .

    So how does that stack up with what you heard, Gordon?
    How does what you have written above stack up with honesty and common sense?


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