https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:Yoiur sarcasm and deliberate twisting of pther people's words is offensive. Please stop it.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the >>limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as >>it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could >>support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone >>it alone which is a missed oppotunity.As appears in what comments?
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the >limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could >support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone >it alone which is a missed oppotunity.As appears in what comments?
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the >>limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as >>it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could >>support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone >>it alone which is a missed oppotunity.As appears in what comments?
On 2024-12-17, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Of course it would, and Rich knows that. Acknowledging it is of course not what he will do.
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the >>>limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as >>>it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
Let try this. If a white person had given the same speech there would have >been in all likely hood that the response would have been in terms of race.
By being a Maori Winston has removed one vector of attack.
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could >>>support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone >>>it alone which is a missed oppotunity.As appears in what comments?
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the >>limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as >>it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon,
although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could >>support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone >>it alone which is a missed oppotunity.As appears in what comments?
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the >>>limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as >>>it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
other racial group.
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could >>>support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone >>>it alone which is a missed oppotunity.As appears in what comments?
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>Suddenly, when faced with his own ineptness, he starts to abuse others. Finally he has abused one of the most even-handed and pleasantly mannered posters here. I have said it before and I will do so again, Rich is a sociopath. He shows almost all of the traits and on the 20 item check list fulfills about 16 of them. Look it up if interested, I won't post the links here.
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the >>>>limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as >>>>it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
other racial group.
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could >>>>support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone >>>>it alone which is a missed oppotunity.As appears in what comments?
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the >>>>limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as >>>>it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
other racial group.
that came out of the recent Hikoi.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could >>>>support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone >>>>it alone which is a missed oppotunity.As appears in what comments?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:Suddenly, when faced with his own ineptness, he starts to abuse others. Finally
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as >>>>>it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Went off track again, did you Crash?
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could >>>>>support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have goneAs appears in what comments?
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
he has abused one of the most even-handed and pleasantly mannered posters here.
I have said it before and I will do so again, Rich is a sociopath. He shows >almost all of the traits and on the 20 item check list fulfills about 16 of >them. Look it up if interested, I won't post the links here.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 19:34:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:Suddenly, when faced with his own ineptness, he starts to abuse others. >>Finally
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in >>>>>>the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Went off track again, did you Crash?
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have >>>>>>gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
he has abused one of the most even-handed and pleasantly mannered posters >>here.
I have said it before and I will do so again, Rich is a sociopath. He shows >>almost all of the traits and on the 20 item check list fulfills about 16 of >>them. Look it up if interested, I won't post the links here.
Thanks for the complement Tony. Rich seems to be getting more extreme
in his posts - maybe realising that Labour are in dire trouble, helped
only by Luxons National being too soft on them.
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>Gordon wrote that! Not Crash.
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in >>>>>>the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
deaf.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have >>>>>>gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as >>>>>it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT could >>>>>support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have goneAs appears in what comments?
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial
of reality demonstrated by Seymour
deaf.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:15:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or >>deaf.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial >>>>of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may
have.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to >>asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:01:20 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>I deleted absolutely nothing. You may now apologise for that lie. (But you won't will you?).
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:15:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or >>>deaf.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in >>>>>>>>the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it >>>>>>>>as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial >>>>>of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may >>have.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to >>>asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT >>>>>>>>couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have >>>>>>>>gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:01:20 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:15:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or >>>deaf.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial >>>>>of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may >>have.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to >>>asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:01:20 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>So no apology, yup that's ol' dickbot.
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:15:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or >>>deaf.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in >>>>>>>>the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it >>>>>>>>as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial >>>>>of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may >>have.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to >>>asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT >>>>>>>>couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have >>>>>>>>gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:01:20 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>A lie. And you have slithered away on another tack, you are a classic sociopath.
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:15:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or >>>deaf.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in >>>>>>>>the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it >>>>>>>>as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial >>>>>of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may >>have.
If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to >>>asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash.
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT >>>>>>>>couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have >>>>>>>>gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:01:20 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:A lie. And you have slithered away on another tack, you are a classic sociopath.
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:15:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or >>>>deaf.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>>>>other racial group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be in
the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell it
as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>>>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial >>>>>>of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this
thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may >>>have.
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>>>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash. >>>>If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to >>>>asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to >>>>be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT >>>>>>>>>couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they have >>>>>>>>>gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
merely asking what comments you were referring to.
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of
posts that he cannot deal with.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 03:57:14 -0000 (UTC), TonyWrong again. I have changed the name but it is not a new thread.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:01:20 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:A lie. And you have slithered away on another tack, you are a classic >>>sociopath.
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:15:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or >>>>>>deaf.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>>>>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be >>>>>>>>>>>in
the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell >>>>>>>>>>>it
as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out. >>>>>>>>>>Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>>>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>>>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>>>>>>other racial group.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>>>>>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial >>>>>>>>of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this >>>>>thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may >>>>>have.
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was >>>>>>merely asking what comments you were referring to.
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>>>>>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash. >>>>>>If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to >>>>>>asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to >>>>>>be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT >>>>>>>>>>>couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they >>>>>>>>>>>have
gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post >>>>>there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that >>>>statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of >>>>posts that he cannot deal with.
Crash had already pointed out that in the thread the above comment was
made you had not in fact deleted parts of the post that you could not
deal with - I would applaud your ceasing that annoying habit, but now
you have changed the Subject of a thread, thereby starting a new one -
very strange and certainly not helpful to good discussion on NZ
General . . .
It is common to change thread names.
Your technical skills are poor to non.
Still no apology however. You are such a sociopathic child.
On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 03:57:14 -0000 (UTC), TonyWrong again. I have changed the name but it is not a new thread.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:01:20 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:A lie. And you have slithered away on another tack, you are a classic >>sociopath.
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:15:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or >>>>>deaf.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>>>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to be >>>>>>>>>>in
the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can tell >>>>>>>>>>it
as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out. >>>>>>>>>Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>>>>>other racial group.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>>>>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial >>>>>>>of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this >>>>thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may >>>>have.
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was >>>>>merely asking what comments you were referring to.
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>>>>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash. >>>>>If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to >>>>>asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to >>>>>be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and ACT >>>>>>>>>>couldAs appears in what comments?
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they >>>>>>>>>>have
gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post
there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that
statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of >>>posts that he cannot deal with.
Crash had already pointed out that in the thread the above comment was
made you had not in fact deleted parts of the post that you could not
deal with - I would applaud your ceasing that annoying habit, but now
you have changed the Subject of a thread, thereby starting a new one -
very strange and certainly not helpful to good discussion on NZ
General . . .
On 2024-12-20, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:It suits Rich to believe his rules are the only rules. They are not. Changing titles is perfectly acceptable and is not a new thread, merely a transition to a new topic.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:There was a convention many years ago that when the thread was no longer on >the current title the new thread title as places first with the older title >placed after was: This allowed readers to keep up or drop out at the start
On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 03:57:14 -0000 (UTC), TonyWrong again. I have changed the name but it is not a new thread.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:01:20 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:A lie. And you have slithered away on another tack, you are a classic >>>>sociopath.
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:15:08 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:14 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:43:57 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:Do you not regard those that are blind as disabled? I am not blind or >>>>>>>deaf.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:19:44 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>>>wrote:I made no reference to any disabled Rich.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:52:26 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>wrote:
On 16 Dec 2024 22:02:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>You must be blind Rich. There were a large number of racist comments >>>>>>>>>>that came out of the recent Hikoi.
On 2024-12-16, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-4wvW9eYo
Let's hope he is correct.
Winnie has been spot on for some time now, along with his need to >>>>>>>>>>>>be
in
the
limelight, much to some annoyance. (No one is perfect)
The advantage that he has is that he is a Maori and thus he can >>>>>>>>>>>>tell
it
as
it is without the racist ticket being handed out. >>>>>>>>>>>Interesting that you do not think anyone with Maori ancestry can be >>>>>>>>>>>called a racist. I do not think that is universally agreed, Gordon, >>>>>>>>>>>although I doubt that Maori are generally any more racist than any >>>>>>>>>>>other racial group.
Blind people can usually hear fairly well - your disparagement of the >>>>>>>>>disabled is however probably not as bad as the overt racism and denial >>>>>>>>>of reality demonstrated by Seymour
Check your attributions Rich. I did not make any comment in this >>>>>>thread about anyone with any disability. One of the other posters may >>>>>>have.
You said, Crash: "Now as appears in the comments, . . ." - I was >>>>>>>merely asking what comments you were referring to.
It also allows theWhat was preventing that before, and does the same apply to Pakeha? >>>>>>>>>Perhaps you did not understand your own offensive statement, Crash. >>>>>>>If you cannot answer that question thin of the questions as similar to >>>>>>>asking which of the three parties in government would you say needs to >>>>>>>be separated from Main-stream New Zealanders?
separation of the TPM from the main stream Maori.
Went off track again, did you Crash?
Now as appears in the comments, it would be good if National and >>>>>>>>>>>>ACTAs appears in what comments?
could
support these ideas. ACT, has done so in the Treaty Bill but they >>>>>>>>>>>>have
gone
it alone which is a missed oppotunity.
Talking to yourself Rich, or replying to Gordon?
I did not write that text. Try again Rich - as I write this post >>>>>>there are 4 of us who have posted to this thread.
Sorry Crash, yes you are correct, it was Gordon that made that >>>>>statement - still my fault, but not helped by Tony deleting parts of >>>>>posts that he cannot deal with.
Crash had already pointed out that in the thread the above comment was >>>made you had not in fact deleted parts of the post that you could not >>>deal with - I would applaud your ceasing that annoying habit, but now
you have changed the Subject of a thread, thereby starting a new one - >>>very strange and certainly not helpful to good discussion on NZ
General . . .
It is common to change thread names.
Your technical skills are poor to non.
Still no apology however. You are such a sociopathic child.
of the new thread. This convention is still alive in places. It is not hard >and fast rules.
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