Interesting research ><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing
those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes.
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >response on the part of those bitten.
Interesting research ><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations.
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing
those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes.
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >response on the part of those bitten.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations.
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing
those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes.
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>response on the part of those bitten.
Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those that >will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum >with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would work.
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing
those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes.
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum >>with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines
against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to
deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization’s most recent World Malaria Report
revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in
2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll –
accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyI am not. The post is not about research. Read it more carefully.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those >>that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing
those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes.
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum >>with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines
against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to
deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization’s most recent World Malaria Report
revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in
2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll –
accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur
annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most
vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing
those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes.
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum >>with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines
against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to
deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health OrganizationÂ’s most recent World Malaria Report
revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in
2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll –
accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur
annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most
vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
On 2024-12-22, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly Gordon. The thread is not about research, it is about delivery in a way that gives people no choice. People like Rich love that sort of enforcement, intelligent and caring people do not.
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those >>>that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes.
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum >>>with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would >>>work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines
against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to
deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced
immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health OrganizationÂ’s most recent World Malaria Report
revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in
2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll –
accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur
annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most
vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
From the article
“Using the mosquito as a vector is an easier and quicker way of delivering >malaria sporozoites,” Roestenberg explained. “Of course, this is not >sustainable in the long term, and so the product will have to be developed
as a vialled vaccine to be rolled out in Africa.”
So a weakened strain of the parasite is "given" to the mosquito which then
is set free to inject the people which gives then a chance to build up >immunity.
However while this is is easier and quicker it is not feasable in the long >therm so we we need to go back to the old vial way. Does not say if
mosquitos are involved in the vial rollout. Probably not as the mosquito way >was not sustainable.
So at the end of the day (the present) a proof of concept has been proven
but it needs work to beat the old vial way.
“Mosquitoes could not be implemented to deliver immunisations on a large >scale.
This is only feasible in the context of a clinical trial,” she added.
So we arrive back at the arguement that vaccation should not be mandated for >the people.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyBut a lot less died when DDT was being used to control them but you >greenies got rid of that and now the likes of Africa suffer.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes.
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum >>>with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines
against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to
deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization’s most recent World Malaria Report
revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in
2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll – >>accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-12-22, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly Gordon. The thread is not about research, it is about delivery in a way
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those >>>>that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes. >>>>>
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum
with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would >>>>work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines
against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to
deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced
immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health OrganizationÂ’s most recent World Malaria Report
revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in
2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll –
accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur
annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most
vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
From the article
“Using the mosquito as a vector is an easier and quicker way of delivering >>malaria sporozoites,� Roestenberg explained. “Of course, this is not >>sustainable in the long term, and so the product will have to be developed >>as a vialled vaccine to be rolled out in Africa.�
So a weakened strain of the parasite is "given" to the mosquito which then >>is set free to inject the people which gives then a chance to build up >>immunity.
However while this is is easier and quicker it is not feasable in the long >>therm so we we need to go back to the old vial way. Does not say if >>mosquitos are involved in the vial rollout. Probably not as the mosquito way >>was not sustainable.
So at the end of the day (the present) a proof of concept has been proven >>but it needs work to beat the old vial way.
“Mosquitoes could not be implemented to deliver immunisations on a large >>scale.
This is only feasible in the context of a clinical trial,� she added.
So we arrive back at the arguement that vaccation should not be mandated for >>the people.
that gives people no choice. People like Rich love that sort of enforcement, >intelligent and caring people do not.
On 2024-12-22, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:I was not aware of any suggestion of a "mandate" being considered, but
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes.
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum >>>with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines
against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to
deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced
immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization?s most recent World Malaria Report
revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in
2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll ?
accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur
annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most
vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
From the article
“Using the mosquito as a vector is an easier and quicker way of delivering >malaria sporozoites,” Roestenberg explained. “Of course, this is not >sustainable in the long term, and so the product will have to be developed
as a vialled vaccine to be rolled out in Africa.”
So a weakened strain of the parasite is "given" to the mosquito which then
is set free to inject the people which gives then a chance to build up >immunity.
However while this is is easier and quicker it is not feasable in the long >therm so we we need to go back to the old vial way. Does not say if
mosquitos are involved in the vial rollout. Probably not as the mosquito way >was not sustainable.
So at the end of the day (the present) a proof of concept has been proven
but it needs work to beat the old vial way.
“Mosquitoes could not be implemented to deliver immunisations on a large scale.
This is only feasible in the context of a clinical trial,” she added.
So we arrive back at the arguement that vaccation should not be mandated for >the people.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyI am not. The post is not about research. Read it more carefully.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those >>>that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes.
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum >>>with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines
against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to
deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization’s most recent World Malaria Report
revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in
2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll – >>accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur >>annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most
vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
Why are you such a fuckwit?
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 21:35:27 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are wrong still. You try to read more carefully, but in your case a lost cause.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyI am not. The post is not about research. Read it more carefully.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those >>>>that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes. >>>>>
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide >>>>referendum
with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would >>>>work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines >>>against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to >>>deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>>immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization’s most recent World Malaria Report >>>revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in >>>2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll – >>>accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur >>>annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most >>>vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
Why are you such a fuckwit?
See the first line in the thread from Lawrence:
"Interesting research"
It is clear that the research is not complete, and it may never need
to be used in New Zealand.
Try reading the thread more carefully, Tony.
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 23:26:18 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, it is you that is off topic. You completely failed to understand the OPs post.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-12-22, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly Gordon. The thread is not about research, it is about delivery in a >>way
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those >>>>>that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes. >>>>>>
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide >>>>>referendum
with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would >>>>>work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines
against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to
deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>>> immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health OrganizationÂ’s most recent World Malaria Report
revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in
2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll –
accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur
annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most
vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
From the article
“Using the mosquito as a vector is an easier and quicker way of delivering >>>malaria sporozoites,� Roestenberg explained. “Of course, this is not >>>sustainable in the long term, and so the product will have to be developed >>>as a vialled vaccine to be rolled out in Africa.�
So a weakened strain of the parasite is "given" to the mosquito which then >>>is set free to inject the people which gives then a chance to build up >>>immunity.
However while this is is easier and quicker it is not feasable in the long >>>therm so we we need to go back to the old vial way. Does not say if >>>mosquitos are involved in the vial rollout. Probably not as the mosquito way >>>was not sustainable.
So at the end of the day (the present) a proof of concept has been proven >>>but it needs work to beat the old vial way.
“Mosquitoes could not be implemented to deliver immunisations on a large >>>scale.
This is only feasible in the context of a clinical trial,� she added.
So we arrive back at the arguement that vaccation should not be mandated for >>>the people.
that gives people no choice. People like Rich love that sort of enforcement, >>intelligent and caring people do not.
You are off topic again, Tony. Start your own thread is you wish to
change the topic.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 23:26:18 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, it is you that is off topic. You completely failed to understand the OPs >post.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-12-22, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly Gordon. The thread is not about research, it is about delivery in a >>>way
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>>>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>>>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those >>>>>>that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes. >>>>>>>
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide >>>>>>referendum
with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would >>>>>>work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines
against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to
deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>>>> immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health OrganizationÂ’s most recent World Malaria Report
revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in >>>>> 2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll –
accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur
annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most
vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
From the article
“Using the mosquito as a vector is an easier and quicker way of delivering
malaria sporozoites,� Roestenberg explained. “Of course, this is not >>>>sustainable in the long term, and so the product will have to be developed >>>>as a vialled vaccine to be rolled out in Africa.�
So a weakened strain of the parasite is "given" to the mosquito which then >>>>is set free to inject the people which gives then a chance to build up >>>>immunity.
However while this is is easier and quicker it is not feasable in the long >>>>therm so we we need to go back to the old vial way. Does not say if >>>>mosquitos are involved in the vial rollout. Probably not as the mosquito way
was not sustainable.
So at the end of the day (the present) a proof of concept has been proven >>>>but it needs work to beat the old vial way.
“Mosquitoes could not be implemented to deliver immunisations on a large >>>>scale.
This is only feasible in the context of a clinical trial,� she added. >>>>
So we arrive back at the arguement that vaccation should not be mandated for
the people.
that gives people no choice. People like Rich love that sort of enforcement, >>>intelligent and caring people do not.
You are off topic again, Tony. Start your own thread is you wish to
change the topic.
You got carried away with the link which is not the subject of this thread. >Get help. You need it.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 21:35:27 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are wrong still. You try to read more carefully, but in your case a lost >cause.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:I am not. The post is not about research. Read it more carefully.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those >>>>>that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes. >>>>>>
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide >>>>>referendum
with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would >>>>>work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines >>>>against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to >>>>deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>>>immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization’s most recent World Malaria Report >>>>revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in >>>>2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll – >>>>accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur >>>>annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most >>>>vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
Why are you such a fuckwit?
See the first line in the thread from Lawrence:
"Interesting research"
It is clear that the research is not complete, and it may never need
to be used in New Zealand.
Try reading the thread more carefully, Tony.
the thread is not about research.
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 06:05:41 -0000 (UTC), TonyWrong!
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 23:26:18 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, it is you that is off topic. You completely failed to understand the OPs >>post.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
On 2024-12-22, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Exactly Gordon. The thread is not about research, it is about delivery in a >>>>way
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>>>>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>>>>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from >>>>>>>those
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>>>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes. >>>>>>>>
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>>>>>response on the part of those bitten.
that
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide >>>>>>>referendum
with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would >>>>>>>work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines >>>>>> against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to >>>>>> deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>>>>> immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization’s most recent World Malaria Report >>>>>> revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in >>>>>> 2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll – >>>>>> accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur >>>>>> annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most
vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
From the article
“Using the mosquito as a vector is an easier and quicker way of >>>>>delivering
malaria sporozoites,� Roestenberg explained. “Of course, this is not >>>>>sustainable in the long term, and so the product will have to be developed >>>>>as a vialled vaccine to be rolled out in Africa.�
So a weakened strain of the parasite is "given" to the mosquito which then >>>>>is set free to inject the people which gives then a chance to build up >>>>>immunity.
However while this is is easier and quicker it is not feasable in the long >>>>>therm so we we need to go back to the old vial way. Does not say if >>>>>mosquitos are involved in the vial rollout. Probably not as the mosquito >>>>>way
was not sustainable.
So at the end of the day (the present) a proof of concept has been proven >>>>>but it needs work to beat the old vial way.
“Mosquitoes could not be implemented to deliver immunisations on a large >>>>>scale.
This is only feasible in the context of a clinical trial,� she added. >>>>>
So we arrive back at the arguement that vaccation should not be mandated >>>>>for
the people.
that gives people no choice. People like Rich love that sort of >>>>enforcement,
intelligent and caring people do not.
You are off topic again, Tony. Start your own thread is you wish to >>>change the topic.
You got carried away with the link which is not the subject of this thread. >>Get help. You need it.
The link is entirely consistent with the Subject of the Thread,
andI never mentioned vaccine manndates - are you drunk again?
has nothing to do with vaccine mandates.
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 06:07:05 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo it is not - you really are drunk still.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 21:35:27 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are wrong still. You try to read more carefully, but in your case a lost >>cause.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:I am not. The post is not about research. Read it more carefully.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>>>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>>>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those >>>>>>that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes. >>>>>>>
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide >>>>>>referendum
with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would >>>>>>work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines >>>>>against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to >>>>>deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>>>>immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization’s most recent World Malaria Report >>>>>revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in >>>>>2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll – >>>>>accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur >>>>>annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most >>>>>vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
Why are you such a fuckwit?
See the first line in the thread from Lawrence:
"Interesting research"
It is clear that the research is not complete, and it may never need
to be used in New Zealand.
Try reading the thread more carefully, Tony.
the thread is not about research.
Of course it is
- or perhaps was before you started on your pet
irrelevancies and arguments based on your misconceptions.
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 21:35:27 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyI am not. The post is not about research. Read it more carefully.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those >>>>that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes. >>>>>
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum
with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines >>>against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to >>>deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>>immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization’s most recent World Malaria Report >>>revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in >>>2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll – >>>accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
Scientists estimated that more than 240 million malaria cases occur >>>annually worldwide. Children and expectant mothers are the most >>>vulnerable to the disease."
Why are you against scientific research, Tony?
Why are you such a fuckwit?
See the first line in the thread from Lawrence:
"Interesting research"
It is clear that the research is not complete, and it may never need
to be used in New Zealand.
Try reading the thread more carefully, Tony.
On 2024-12-23, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:My mistake, Gordon. It will be interesting to see if it proves
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 09:57:23 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:But a lot less died when DDT was being used to control them but you >>>greenies got rid of that and now the likes of Africa suffer.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes. >>>>>>
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum
with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines >>>>against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to >>>>deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>>>immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization?s most recent World Malaria Report >>>>revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in >>>>2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll ? >>>>accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT_in_New_Zealand
Not all countries have banned the use of DDT - all the Lawrence was
saying is that there is interesting research into the use of flies as
a carrier for a vaccine. That research is not complete, and thankfully
we were able to cease the use of a number of poisons in New Zealand.
I have to point out here that misquitos are not flies. Files do not carry >malaria.
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 09:57:23 +1300, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:33:50 -0000 (UTC), TonyBut a lot less died when DDT was being used to control them but you >>greenies got rid of that and now the likes of Africa suffer.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Interesting research >>>>><https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/21/could-mosquitoes-deliver-vaccines-against-malaria>A dangerous idea. Another way of forcing people to have vaccinations. >>>>Nobody should be allowed to do this until they have permission from those that
into turning mosquitoes into vaccine-delivery machines, immunizing >>>>>those they bite against diseases normally carried by those mosquitoes. >>>>>
Still early days, but definitely some promising signs of immune-system >>>>>response on the part of those bitten.
will be bitten (although they don't exactly "bite") - a worldwide referendum
with a target date for completion in, oh, say, 250 years. Yes that would work.
The actual article headline was "Could mosquitoes deliver vaccines >>>against malaria?"
and in the first paragraph:
"... scientists say they have successfully engineered mosquitoes to >>>deliver vaccines that could potentially provide significantly enhanced >>>immunity against malaria."
We do not have much experience of malaria in New Zealand, but:
"The World Health Organization’s most recent World Malaria Report >>>revealed that an estimated 597,000 people died of malaria globally in >>>2023 with African countries bearing the brunt of the death toll – >>>accounting for 95 percent of malaria fatalities.
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT_in_New_Zealand
Not all countries have banned the use of DDT - all the Lawrence was
saying is that there is interesting research into the use of flies as
a carrier for a vaccine. That research is not complete, and thankfully
we were able to cease the use of a number of poisons in New Zealand.
But a lot less died when DDT was being used to control them but you >greenies got rid of that and now the likes of Africa suffer.
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