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    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 2 10:41:25 2025
    Worth listening to:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PR5S4xhXQ&t=525s

    As we know, the Free Speech Union has been developed as a political
    weapon by the far right.

    I agree with Free Speech, but I object to and find offensive most of
    what the Free Speech Union says - they are distorting the natural
    meaning of words for political purposes.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 1 23:25:45 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Worth listening to:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PR5S4xhXQ&t=525s

    As we know, the Free Speech Union has been developed as a political
    weapon by the far right.
    No we do not know that. You are making it up. There is no significant far right movement in this country just a few idiots.
    There is no far right influence in our parliament either, thank goodness. Unfortunately there is a far left influence there.

    I agree with Free Speech, but I object to and find offensive most of
    what the Free Speech Union says - they are distorting the natural
    meaning of words for political purposes.
    No, it is you and your far left cohorts that do that.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 2 00:21:52 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Worth listening to:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PR5S4xhXQ&t=525s
    What absolute nonsense, he is reflecting a political view not a moral one.


    I agree with Free Speech,
    An obvious lie, if you agreed with free speech you would be happy for people to speak freely regardless of whether they offend your personal sensibilities or not. You would be happy for them to speak freely provided they do not defame, and do no actual harm. Opinions are just opinions, they very rarely inflict damage. You would be pushed to find an example.
    You would also support the free speech movement unless you have something to hide.
    However, don't confuse that with the protections that already exist in law - they serve us well and need no more tools.
    Your desire to increase control of what we say is nothing new however. It is the first step to Orwell's 1984, your personal utopia.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 2 06:52:22 2025
    On 2025-01-01, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Worth listening to:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PR5S4xhXQ&t=525s

    As we know, the Free Speech Union has been developed as a political
    weapon by the far right.

    Probably because they think it is needed.

    I agree with Free Speech, but I object to and find offensive most of
    what the Free Speech Union says - they are distorting the natural
    meaning of words for political purposes.

    There is a phrase for the month, ... distorting the natural meaning of
    words. Proganda is the word you are looking for, yes?

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Thu Jan 2 22:27:20 2025
    On 2 Jan 2025 06:52:22 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2025-01-01, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Worth listening to:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PR5S4xhXQ&t=525s

    As we know, the Free Speech Union has been developed as a political
    weapon by the far right.

    Probably because they think it is needed.

    Absolutely - David Farrar wrote about it some time ago - the idea was
    to use Free Speech as a cover for reducing other human rights - they
    have done that now by putting one of their people in a position to
    stop so many complaints as they take away entitlements . . .

    I agree with Free Speech, but I object to and find offensive most of
    what the Free Speech Union says - they are distorting the natural
    meaning of words for political purposes.

    There is a phrase for the month, ... distorting the natural meaning of
    words. Proganda is the word you are looking for, yes?
    Yes - they are using it to cover misleading speech from their own with
    a few nutter extremists supported to make it clear that to them Free
    Speech covers almost anything they want to say and not be accountable
    for such statements.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 2 18:39:33 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 2 Jan 2025 06:52:22 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2025-01-01, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Worth listening to:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PR5S4xhXQ&t=525s

    As we know, the Free Speech Union has been developed as a political
    weapon by the far right.

    Probably because they think it is needed.

    Absolutely - David Farrar wrote about it some time ago - the idea was
    to use Free Speech as a cover for reducing other human rights - they
    have done that now by putting one of their people in a position to
    stop so many complaints as they take away entitlements . . .
    A lie - provide proof but you cannot.

    I agree with Free Speech, but I object to and find offensive most of
    what the Free Speech Union says - they are distorting the natural
    meaning of words for political purposes.

    There is a phrase for the month, ... distorting the natural meaning of >>words. Proganda is the word you are looking for, yes?
    Yes - they are using it to cover misleading speech from their own with
    a few nutter extremists supported to make it clear that to them Free
    Speech covers almost anything they want to say and not be accountable
    for such statements.
    Absolute nonsense. You hate freedom of expression - come on 'fess up!

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 3 08:39:52 2025
    On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 10:41:25 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Worth listening to:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PR5S4xhXQ&t=525s

    That video shows as being an hour long. You have not made any comment
    on any part of it that you wish to use as part of this post. I don't
    have an hour to spend in these circumstances.

    As we know, the Free Speech Union has been developed as a political
    weapon by the far right.

    Who is "we"? Conspiratorial nonsense unless you have a credible cite.

    I agree with Free Speech, but I object to and find offensive most of
    what the Free Speech Union says - they are distorting the natural
    meaning of words for political purposes.

    I also agree with Free Speech. I have never held a position where I
    can deny expression of free speech though.

    In respect of 'distorting the natural meaning of words for political
    purposes' you will find the master of this practice if you look at
    yourself in a mirror. Can you cite a specific FSU campaign that you
    disagree with?


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    Crash McBash

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