• How many more?

    From Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 23:21:13 2025
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman

    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Gordon on Fri Jan 17 17:33:55 2025
    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:


    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman

    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    This is an appalling beat-up - this is an allegation, she has not been arrested, and yet is featured as though she is again appearing in
    court. With so many "businessmen" getting name suppression even after conviction, this is very bad form from RNZ.

    Of course the allegations may be true, but New Zealand used to expect
    our news sources to presume innocence unless found guilty - this case
    has not even got as far as a charge being made!

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 17 06:08:49 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman

    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    This is an appalling beat-up - this is an allegation, she has not been >arrested, and yet is featured as though she is again appearing in
    court. With so many "businessmen" getting name suppression even after >conviction, this is very bad form from RNZ.

    Of course the allegations may be true, but New Zealand used to expect
    our news sources to presume innocence unless found guilty - this case
    has not even got as far as a charge being made!
    I am inclined to agree, but I remind you of the occasions when you have defamed an MP. Maybe you should be more balanced.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Sat Jan 18 18:06:55 2025
    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 06:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman

    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    This is an appalling beat-up - this is an allegation, she has not been >>arrested, and yet is featured as though she is again appearing in
    court. With so many "businessmen" getting name suppression even after >>conviction, this is very bad form from RNZ.

    Of course the allegations may be true, but New Zealand used to expect
    our news sources to presume innocence unless found guilty - this case
    has not even got as far as a charge being made!
    I am inclined to agree, but I remind you of the occasions when you have defamed
    an MP. Maybe you should be more balanced.
    Off topic, Tony. You really cannot help yourself from being
    gratuitously nasty . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Sat Jan 18 06:32:41 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 06:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman

    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    This is an appalling beat-up - this is an allegation, she has not been >>>arrested, and yet is featured as though she is again appearing in
    court. With so many "businessmen" getting name suppression even after >>>conviction, this is very bad form from RNZ.

    Of course the allegations may be true, but New Zealand used to expect
    our news sources to presume innocence unless found guilty - this case
    has not even got as far as a charge being made!
    I am inclined to agree, but I remind you of the occasions when you have >>defamed
    an MP. Maybe you should be more balanced.
    Off topic, Tony. You really cannot help yourself from being
    gratuitously nasty . . .
    You, my dear little child, are a liar. You have defamed many non-Labour, non-Green MPs over the years. Always non-left wing MPs (no surprise there of course). That is a fact.
    What I wrote was not off topic, it followed your post correctly, it was also not gratuitous or nasty.
    It was the truth. You are corrupt.
    ps. You have also defamed most of the people who post here - you are a serial defamer of record. It is a sickness.

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  • From Willy Nilly@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sat Jan 18 20:11:57 2025
    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman
    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    Another thing that she "does again": she holidays over to Iran after
    having originally come to NZ claiming to be a refugee from Iran !
    Next time she goes over there, her NZ passport should be cancelled
    whilst she is still there, buh-bye.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506722/ghahraman-back-in-new-zealand-amid-shoplifting-claims
    "Ghahraman had been away on a personal trip that had been planned
    months ago when allegations surfaced last week that she had shoplifted
    from Auckland clothing retailer Scotties Boutique before Christmas."

    Media complicit in refusing to name Ghahraman's holiday venue, never
    before seen the phrase "a personal trip" before or since. She
    obviously went to Iran, and obviously the media think that we the
    vulgar public don't need to know about that.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to Willy Nilly on Mon Jan 20 22:11:07 2025
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 20:11:57 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman
    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    Another thing that she "does again": she holidays over to Iran after
    having originally come to NZ claiming to be a refugee from Iran !
    Next time she goes over there, her NZ passport should be cancelled
    whilst she is still there, buh-bye.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506722/ghahraman-back-in-new-zealand-amid-shoplifting-claims
    "Ghahraman had been away on a personal trip that had been planned
    months ago when allegations surfaced last week that she had shoplifted
    from Auckland clothing retailer Scotties Boutique before Christmas."

    Media complicit in refusing to name Ghahraman's holiday venue, never
    before seen the phrase "a personal trip" before or since. She
    obviously went to Iran, and obviously the media think that we the
    vulgar public don't need to know about that.

    Another good article here: https://mountaintui.substack.com/p/in-defence-of-golriz-ghahraman

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 20 18:36:00 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 20:11:57 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman
    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    Another thing that she "does again": she holidays over to Iran after >>having originally come to NZ claiming to be a refugee from Iran !
    Next time she goes over there, her NZ passport should be cancelled
    whilst she is still there, buh-bye.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506722/ghahraman-back-in-new-zealand-amid-shoplifting-claims
    "Ghahraman had been away on a personal trip that had been planned
    months ago when allegations surfaced last week that she had shoplifted
    from Auckland clothing retailer Scotties Boutique before Christmas."

    Media complicit in refusing to name Ghahraman's holiday venue, never
    before seen the phrase "a personal trip" before or since. She
    obviously went to Iran, and obviously the media think that we the
    vulgar public don't need to know about that.

    Another good article here: >https://mountaintui.substack.com/p/in-defence-of-golriz-ghahraman
    The facts are clear, She is a thief. She has had her day in court.
    If she has done anything else wrong, she will no doubt go to court again.
    All else is garbage. Whether it is in her defence or whether it is critical.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 21 10:54:11 2025
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 22:11:07 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 20:11:57 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman
    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    Another thing that she "does again": she holidays over to Iran after >>having originally come to NZ claiming to be a refugee from Iran !
    Next time she goes over there, her NZ passport should be cancelled
    whilst she is still there, buh-bye.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506722/ghahraman-back-in-new-zealand-amid-shoplifting-claims
    "Ghahraman had been away on a personal trip that had been planned
    months ago when allegations surfaced last week that she had shoplifted
    from Auckland clothing retailer Scotties Boutique before Christmas."

    Media complicit in refusing to name Ghahraman's holiday venue, never
    before seen the phrase "a personal trip" before or since. She
    obviously went to Iran, and obviously the media think that we the
    vulgar public don't need to know about that.

    Another good article here: >https://mountaintui.substack.com/p/in-defence-of-golriz-ghahraman

    Almost all of that is irrelevant and seeking only to mitigate
    wrongdoing. She chose to enter politics and stay there for quite some
    time. Her life's choices have had consequences: we all face that.
    Most of us though manage to avoid criminal conviction.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 21 19:53:31 2025
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:29:17 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:54:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 22:11:07 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 20:11:57 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman
    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    Another thing that she "does again": she holidays over to Iran after >>>>having originally come to NZ claiming to be a refugee from Iran !
    Next time she goes over there, her NZ passport should be cancelled >>>>whilst she is still there, buh-bye.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506722/ghahraman-back-in-new-zealand-amid-shoplifting-claims
    "Ghahraman had been away on a personal trip that had been planned >>>>months ago when allegations surfaced last week that she had shoplifted >>>>from Auckland clothing retailer Scotties Boutique before Christmas."

    Media complicit in refusing to name Ghahraman's holiday venue, never >>>>before seen the phrase "a personal trip" before or since. She >>>>obviously went to Iran, and obviously the media think that we the >>>>vulgar public don't need to know about that.

    Another good article here: >>>https://mountaintui.substack.com/p/in-defence-of-golriz-ghahraman

    Almost all of that is irrelevant and seeking only to mitigate
    wrongdoing. She chose to enter politics and stay there for quite some >>time. Her life's choices have had consequences: we all face that.
    Most of us though manage to avoid criminal conviction.

    She pleaded guilty to the charges last year - it is the accusation
    this year that is upsetting many people. Apparently she was pushing a
    trolley with her own bag in it - and put an item in her bag as she was
    moving around the store before gong to the checkout. That is exactly
    what many shoppers do - sort items as they go around into different
    places on the trolley. She had not finished shopping when the
    allegation was made.
    See: >https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/golriz-gharaman-and-the-150-pakn-save-shopping-incident-supermarket-never-complained-to-police-who-tried-to-use-allegation-in-court/M5S6ON6RYZERXI6TNSEJWEMVRA/

    And now one of our Corporates shows that they are ready to pile in to
    the attack on a past Green MP - under the pretence of "irreverence"
    and "a bit of a laugh" - shades of the "Dirty Tricks" of the past.
    This sort of scurrilous publicity is just what the Atlas Network are
    trying to get seen as a human right so they can use it more . . .

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 21 19:29:17 2025
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:54:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 22:11:07 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 20:11:57 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman
    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    Another thing that she "does again": she holidays over to Iran after >>>having originally come to NZ claiming to be a refugee from Iran !
    Next time she goes over there, her NZ passport should be cancelled
    whilst she is still there, buh-bye.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506722/ghahraman-back-in-new-zealand-amid-shoplifting-claims
    "Ghahraman had been away on a personal trip that had been planned
    months ago when allegations surfaced last week that she had shoplifted >>>from Auckland clothing retailer Scotties Boutique before Christmas."

    Media complicit in refusing to name Ghahraman's holiday venue, never >>>before seen the phrase "a personal trip" before or since. She
    obviously went to Iran, and obviously the media think that we the
    vulgar public don't need to know about that.

    Another good article here: >>https://mountaintui.substack.com/p/in-defence-of-golriz-ghahraman

    Almost all of that is irrelevant and seeking only to mitigate
    wrongdoing. She chose to enter politics and stay there for quite some
    time. Her life's choices have had consequences: we all face that.
    Most of us though manage to avoid criminal conviction.

    She pleaded guilty to the charges last year - it is the accusation
    this year that is upsetting many people. Apparently she was pushing a
    trolley with her own bag in it - and put an item in her bag as she was
    moving around the store before gong to the checkout. That is exactly
    what many shoppers do - sort items as they go around into different
    places on the trolley. She had not finished shopping when the
    allegation was made.
    See: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/golriz-gharaman-and-the-150-pakn-save-shopping-incident-supermarket-never-complained-to-police-who-tried-to-use-allegation-in-court/M5S6ON6RYZERXI6TNSEJWEMVRA/

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Tue Jan 21 08:14:42 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:29:17 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:54:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 22:11:07 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 20:11:57 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman
    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    Another thing that she "does again": she holidays over to Iran after >>>>>having originally come to NZ claiming to be a refugee from Iran ! >>>>>Next time she goes over there, her NZ passport should be cancelled >>>>>whilst she is still there, buh-bye.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506722/ghahraman-back-in-new-zealand-amid-shoplifting-claims
    "Ghahraman had been away on a personal trip that had been planned >>>>>months ago when allegations surfaced last week that she had shoplifted >>>>>from Auckland clothing retailer Scotties Boutique before Christmas."

    Media complicit in refusing to name Ghahraman's holiday venue, never >>>>>before seen the phrase "a personal trip" before or since. She >>>>>obviously went to Iran, and obviously the media think that we the >>>>>vulgar public don't need to know about that.

    Another good article here: >>>>https://mountaintui.substack.com/p/in-defence-of-golriz-ghahraman

    Almost all of that is irrelevant and seeking only to mitigate
    wrongdoing. She chose to enter politics and stay there for quite some >>>time. Her life's choices have had consequences: we all face that.
    Most of us though manage to avoid criminal conviction.

    She pleaded guilty to the charges last year - it is the accusation
    this year that is upsetting many people. Apparently she was pushing a >>trolley with her own bag in it - and put an item in her bag as she was >>moving around the store before gong to the checkout. That is exactly
    what many shoppers do - sort items as they go around into different
    places on the trolley. She had not finished shopping when the
    allegation was made.
    See: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/golriz-gharaman-and-the-150-pakn-save-shopping-incident-supermarket-never-complained-to-police-who-tried-to-use-allegation-in-court/M5S6ON6RYZERXI6TNSEJWEMVRA/

    And now one of our Corporates shows that they are ready to pile in to
    the attack on a past Green MP - under the pretence of "irreverence"
    and "a bit of a laugh" - shades of the "Dirty Tricks" of the past.
    This sort of scurrilous publicity is just what the Atlas Network are
    trying to get seen as a human right so they can use it more . . .
    She is a admitted thief. She has no reason to complain about the current situation. If she really used her shopping bag inside her trolley for goods then as well as a thief she is an idiot. I don't know anybody stupid enough to do that uinless they are also a thief.
    You are trying to defend a non-event. She will be processed as required, let it happen and keep you nasty little nose out of it.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 22 07:47:59 2025
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:33:37 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 08:14:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:29:17 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:54:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 22:11:07 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 20:11:57 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote: >>>>>>
    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman
    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    Another thing that she "does again": she holidays over to Iran after >>>>>>>having originally come to NZ claiming to be a refugee from Iran ! >>>>>>>Next time she goes over there, her NZ passport should be cancelled >>>>>>>whilst she is still there, buh-bye.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506722/ghahraman-back-in-new-zealand-amid-shoplifting-claims
    "Ghahraman had been away on a personal trip that had been planned >>>>>>>months ago when allegations surfaced last week that she had shoplifted >>>>>>>from Auckland clothing retailer Scotties Boutique before Christmas." >>>>>>>
    Media complicit in refusing to name Ghahraman's holiday venue, never >>>>>>>before seen the phrase "a personal trip" before or since. She >>>>>>>obviously went to Iran, and obviously the media think that we the >>>>>>>vulgar public don't need to know about that.

    Another good article here: >>>>>>https://mountaintui.substack.com/p/in-defence-of-golriz-ghahraman

    Almost all of that is irrelevant and seeking only to mitigate >>>>>wrongdoing. She chose to enter politics and stay there for quite some >>>>>time. Her life's choices have had consequences: we all face that. >>>>>Most of us though manage to avoid criminal conviction.

    She pleaded guilty to the charges last year - it is the accusation
    this year that is upsetting many people. Apparently she was pushing a >>>>trolley with her own bag in it - and put an item in her bag as she was >>>>moving around the store before gong to the checkout. That is exactly >>>>what many shoppers do - sort items as they go around into different >>>>places on the trolley. She had not finished shopping when the >>>>allegation was made.
    See: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/golriz-gharaman-and-the-150-pakn-save-shopping-incident-supermarket-never-complained-to-police-who-tried-to-use-allegation-in-court/M5S6ON6RYZERXI6TNSEJWEMVRA/

    And now one of our Corporates shows that they are ready to pile in to
    the attack on a past Green MP - under the pretence of "irreverence"
    and "a bit of a laugh" - shades of the "Dirty Tricks" of the past.
    This sort of scurrilous publicity is just what the Atlas Network are >>>trying to get seen as a human right so they can use it more . . .
    She is a admitted thief. She has no reason to complain about the current >>situation. If she really used her shopping bag inside her trolley for goods >>then as well as a thief she is an idiot. I don't know anybody stupid enough to
    do that uinless they are also a thief.
    Then you either never go to a supermarket or are willfully hiding the
    truth from yourself. A lot of people use bags to separate items in
    their trolley - to keep frozen from other items, to keep orders for
    different people separate, to keep heavy items from squashing others,
    or just to keep items from rolling in the trolley. You are an idiot,
    and you are condoning poor journalism that has not had elementary fact >checking. But then you don't care about justice, do you tony.

    You are trying to defend a non-event. She will be processed as required, let it
    happen and keep you nasty little nose out of it.

    So just what "processing" do you expect when there was no complaint,

    There was a complaint. It is covered in the article Gordon cited in
    his original post.

    and no charge of wrongdoing.

    At the time the article Gordon cited was written (16 January 2025) the investigation had not resulted in charges but was ongoing.

    Why was this even in our papers - it was
    clearly a vicious slur on a politician that offended a year ago but
    admitted it and paid the penalties.

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Wed Jan 22 07:33:37 2025
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 08:14:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:29:17 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:54:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 22:11:07 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 20:11:57 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman
    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    Another thing that she "does again": she holidays over to Iran after >>>>>>having originally come to NZ claiming to be a refugee from Iran ! >>>>>>Next time she goes over there, her NZ passport should be cancelled >>>>>>whilst she is still there, buh-bye.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506722/ghahraman-back-in-new-zealand-amid-shoplifting-claims
    "Ghahraman had been away on a personal trip that had been planned >>>>>>months ago when allegations surfaced last week that she had shoplifted >>>>>>from Auckland clothing retailer Scotties Boutique before Christmas." >>>>>>
    Media complicit in refusing to name Ghahraman's holiday venue, never >>>>>>before seen the phrase "a personal trip" before or since. She >>>>>>obviously went to Iran, and obviously the media think that we the >>>>>>vulgar public don't need to know about that.

    Another good article here: >>>>>https://mountaintui.substack.com/p/in-defence-of-golriz-ghahraman

    Almost all of that is irrelevant and seeking only to mitigate >>>>wrongdoing. She chose to enter politics and stay there for quite some >>>>time. Her life's choices have had consequences: we all face that.
    Most of us though manage to avoid criminal conviction.

    She pleaded guilty to the charges last year - it is the accusation
    this year that is upsetting many people. Apparently she was pushing a >>>trolley with her own bag in it - and put an item in her bag as she was >>>moving around the store before gong to the checkout. That is exactly
    what many shoppers do - sort items as they go around into different >>>places on the trolley. She had not finished shopping when the
    allegation was made.
    See: >>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/golriz-gharaman-and-the-150-pakn-save-shopping-incident-supermarket-never-complained-to-police-who-tried-to-use-allegation-in-court/M5S6ON6RYZERXI6TNSEJWEMVRA/

    And now one of our Corporates shows that they are ready to pile in to
    the attack on a past Green MP - under the pretence of "irreverence"
    and "a bit of a laugh" - shades of the "Dirty Tricks" of the past.
    This sort of scurrilous publicity is just what the Atlas Network are
    trying to get seen as a human right so they can use it more . . .
    She is a admitted thief. She has no reason to complain about the current >situation. If she really used her shopping bag inside her trolley for goods >then as well as a thief she is an idiot. I don't know anybody stupid enough to >do that uinless they are also a thief.
    Then you either never go to a supermarket or are willfully hiding the
    truth from yourself. A lot of people use bags to separate items in
    their trolley - to keep frozen from other items, to keep orders for
    different people separate, to keep heavy items from squashing others,
    or just to keep items from rolling in the trolley. You are an idiot,
    and you are condoning poor journalism that has not had elementary fact checking. But then you don't care about justice, do you tony.

    You are trying to defend a non-event. She will be processed as required, let it
    happen and keep you nasty little nose out of it.

    So just what "processing" do you expect when there was no complaint,
    and no charge of wrongdoing. Why was this even in our papers - it was
    clearly a vicious slur on a politician that offended a year ago but
    admitted it and paid the penalties.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Tue Jan 21 19:38:05 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 08:14:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:29:17 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:54:11 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 22:11:07 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 20:11:57 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote: >>>>>>
    On 15 Jan 2025 23:21:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/539111/new-shoplifting-allegation-against-former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman
    Golriz Ghahraman has done it again allegely. Shoplifting.

    Another thing that she "does again": she holidays over to Iran after >>>>>>>having originally come to NZ claiming to be a refugee from Iran ! >>>>>>>Next time she goes over there, her NZ passport should be cancelled >>>>>>>whilst she is still there, buh-bye.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/506722/ghahraman-back-in-new-zealand-amid-shoplifting-claims
    "Ghahraman had been away on a personal trip that had been planned >>>>>>>months ago when allegations surfaced last week that she had shoplifted >>>>>>>from Auckland clothing retailer Scotties Boutique before Christmas." >>>>>>>
    Media complicit in refusing to name Ghahraman's holiday venue, never >>>>>>>before seen the phrase "a personal trip" before or since. She >>>>>>>obviously went to Iran, and obviously the media think that we the >>>>>>>vulgar public don't need to know about that.

    Another good article here: >>>>>>https://mountaintui.substack.com/p/in-defence-of-golriz-ghahraman

    Almost all of that is irrelevant and seeking only to mitigate >>>>>wrongdoing. She chose to enter politics and stay there for quite some >>>>>time. Her life's choices have had consequences: we all face that. >>>>>Most of us though manage to avoid criminal conviction.

    She pleaded guilty to the charges last year - it is the accusation
    this year that is upsetting many people. Apparently she was pushing a >>>>trolley with her own bag in it - and put an item in her bag as she was >>>>moving around the store before gong to the checkout. That is exactly >>>>what many shoppers do - sort items as they go around into different >>>>places on the trolley. She had not finished shopping when the >>>>allegation was made.
    See: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/golriz-gharaman-and-the-150-pakn-save-shopping-incident-supermarket-never-complained-to-police-who-tried-to-use-allegation-in-court/M5S6ON6RYZERXI6TNSEJWEMVRA/

    And now one of our Corporates shows that they are ready to pile in to
    the attack on a past Green MP - under the pretence of "irreverence"
    and "a bit of a laugh" - shades of the "Dirty Tricks" of the past.
    This sort of scurrilous publicity is just what the Atlas Network are >>>trying to get seen as a human right so they can use it more . . .
    She is a admitted thief. She has no reason to complain about the current >>situation. If she really used her shopping bag inside her trolley for goods >>then as well as a thief she is an idiot. I don't know anybody stupid enough >>to
    do that uinless they are also a thief.
    Then you either never go to a supermarket or are willfully hiding the
    truth from yourself. A lot of people use bags to separate items in
    their trolley - to keep frozen from other items, to keep orders for
    different people separate, to keep heavy items from squashing others,
    or just to keep items from rolling in the trolley.
    You are living in your fantasy world, I live in the real one. I have never seen that and I think you are making it up. If true it is a silly thing to do.

    Abuse gone.


    You are trying to defend a non-event. She will be processed as required, let >>it
    happen and keep you nasty little nose out of it.

    So just what "processing" do you expect when there was no complaint,
    and no charge of wrongdoing.
    There was a complaint. That is sufficient to make it to the news for a politician, and you know it.
    Why was this even in our papers - it was
    clearly a vicious slur on a politician that offended a year ago but
    admitted it and paid the penalties.
    No, wrong. Silly boy. There was a complaint. Complaints should and usually do follow a process - that is what is happening - very simple really.

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 22 19:03:44 2025
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to blah@blah.blah on Wed Jan 22 20:14:41 2025
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you
    are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social
    behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help
    having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that
    Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not
    enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that
    in his quote above.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 22 08:39:52 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you
    are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social
    behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help >>>having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that >>>Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not
    enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that
    in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and your >>lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also hate >>jews and black people?

    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your
    incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie?
    In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been pointless.
    You are irrelevant.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 22 08:17:29 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you
    are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social
    behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help
    having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that
    Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not
    enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that
    in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and your lying, abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also hate jews and black people?

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Wed Jan 22 21:32:45 2025
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you
    are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social
    behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help
    having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that
    Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not
    enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that
    in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and your lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also hate >jews and black people?

    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your
    incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 22 20:01:30 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported. >>>>>>>

    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you >>>>>are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help >>>>>having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that >>>>>Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that >>>>>in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and your >>>>lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also >>>>hate
    jews and black people?

    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your
    incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie?
    In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been >>pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman...
    Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is mightily ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it out all by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has
    been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently,
    That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant and extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who
    are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then
    prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jan 23 08:32:42 2025
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you >>>>are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help >>>>having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that >>>>Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that
    in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and your >>>lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also hate >>>jews and black people?

    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your
    incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie?
    In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been >pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman
    rather than yourself you need to be clear, Tony.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has
    been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently, just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who
    are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then
    prove it . . . . I do not expect you to be able to; you are just
    following the far-right attacks as you normally do. It is notable that
    with ACT leading the government with its racist and divisive policies,
    even the National Party is not prepared to stand up for natural
    justice - poor Luxon is totally helpless to stop the Atlas Network
    plans . . .

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jan 23 09:27:43 2025
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>>>wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported. >>>>>>>>>>

    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you >>>>>>>>are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help >>>>>>>>having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that >>>>>>>>Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>>>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that >>>>>>>>in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and your >>>>>>>lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also >>>>>>>hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police were >involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, you are >thick!
    Yet again you make an unsupported assertion - without quoting any
    source for that claim. You are despicable, Tony.



    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    So now you admit that there were no charges, but regard that as
    irrelevant! You cannot even be consistent with your lies.

    Abuse gone.
    There Tony goes again - deleting truth that he does not like - a
    coward as well as self-deluded. You and the nasty party ACT deserve
    each other, Tony.




    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie? >>>>>In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been >>>>>pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman... >>>Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is mightily >>>ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it out >>>all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has >>>>been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently,
    That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant and >>>extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who >>>>are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then >>>>prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.
    There you go again Tony, hiding from the truth, even when you are not
    able to support your disgraceful slurs with any evidence . . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 22 20:43:35 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported. >>>>>>>>>>>

    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you >>>>>>>>>are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help >>>>>>>>>having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that >>>>>>>>>Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>>>>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that >>>>>>>>>in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and >>>>>>>>your
    lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also >>>>>>>>hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police were >>involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, you are >>thick!
    Yet again you make an unsupported assertion - without quoting any
    source for that claim. You are despicable, Tony.
    You are lyiing. Read the OP, it is there. Get some help, cl;eary you need it.



    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    So now you admit that there were no charges, but regard that as
    irrelevant! You cannot even be consistent with your lies.
    You are a fool. That was you who wrote that, not me. Do get that help.

    Abuse gone.
    Abuse gone.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie? >>>>>>In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been >>>>>>pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman... >>>>Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is mightily >>>>ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it out >>>>all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has >>>>>been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently,
    That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant and >>>>extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who >>>>>are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then >>>>>prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.
    Abuse gone.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jan 23 09:13:09 2025
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported. >>>>>>>>

    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you >>>>>>are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help >>>>>>having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that >>>>>>Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that >>>>>>in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and your >>>>>lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also >>>>>hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges. You tell the stories you would like to have read
    Tony, but mistake far-right political rhetoric for facts, but on this
    one you are Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. You may bluster and make further
    claims, but the facts are clear - there has been no further charge
    against Gharaman, and will not be.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie?
    In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been >>>pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman... >Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is mightily >ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it out all >by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has
    been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently,
    That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant and >extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who
    are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then
    prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 22 20:19:57 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>>>>>>wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported. >>>>>>>>>

    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you >>>>>>>are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help >>>>>>>having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that >>>>>>>Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that >>>>>>>in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and your >>>>>>lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also >>>>>>hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police were involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, you are thick!
    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    Abuse gone.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie?
    In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been >>>>pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman... >>Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is mightily >>ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it out >>all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has
    been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently,
    That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant and >>extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who
    are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then >>>prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jan 23 12:07:52 2025
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported. >>>>>>>>>>>>

    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you >>>>>>>>>>are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help >>>>>>>>>>having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that >>>>>>>>>>Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>>>>>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that >>>>>>>>>>in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and >>>>>>>>>your
    lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also
    hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police were >>>involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, you are
    thick!
    Yet again you make an unsupported assertion - without quoting any
    source for that claim. You are despicable, Tony.
    You are lyiing. Read the OP, it is there. Get some help, cl;eary you need it. >>


    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    So now you admit that there were no charges, but regard that as
    irrelevant! You cannot even be consistent with your lies.
    You are a fool. That was you who wrote that, not me. Do get that help.

    Abuse gone.
    Abuse gone.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie? >>>>>>>In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been >>>>>>>pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman... >>>>>Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is mightily >>>>>ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it out >>>>>all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has >>>>>>been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently,
    That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant and >>>>>extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who >>>>>>are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then >>>>>>prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.
    Abuse gone.

    There has been no further charge against Gharaman, and will not be.
    You have not been able to give any evidence to the contrary.
    You have been, and are abusing yourself, Tony.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 23 12:20:53 2025
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 12:07:52 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you >>>>>>>>>>>are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help >>>>>>>>>>>having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that
    Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>>>>>>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that >>>>>>>>>>>in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and >>>>>>>>>>your
    lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you also
    hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police were >>>>involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, you are
    thick!
    Yet again you make an unsupported assertion - without quoting any
    source for that claim. You are despicable, Tony.
    You are lyiing. Read the OP, it is there. Get some help, cl;eary you need it. >>>


    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    So now you admit that there were no charges, but regard that as >>>irrelevant! You cannot even be consistent with your lies.
    You are a fool. That was you who wrote that, not me. Do get that help.

    Abuse gone.
    Abuse gone.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie? >>>>>>>>In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been >>>>>>>>pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman... >>>>>>Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is mightily >>>>>>ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it out
    all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has >>>>>>>been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently,
    That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant and
    extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who >>>>>>>are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then >>>>>>>prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.
    Abuse gone.

    There has been no further charge against Gharaman, and will not be.
    You have not been able to give any evidence to the contrary.
    You have been, and are abusing yourself, Tony.

    Sadly Tony is often sucked in by parts of articles written by the far
    right. The truth about this case is starting to come through - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/privacy-commissioner-digs-into-golriz-ghahraman-shopping-incident/ATNGPRU6WFAADOR3GUA7HVKVE4/

    You may apologise now, Tony.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 23 00:23:47 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash >>>>>>>>>>>><nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being reported. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you >>>>>>>>>>>are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help >>>>>>>>>>>having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill that
    Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>>>>>>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that >>>>>>>>>>>in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and >>>>>>>>>>your
    lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you >>>>>>>>>>also
    hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police were >>>>involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, you >>>>are
    thick!
    Yet again you make an unsupported assertion - without quoting any
    source for that claim. You are despicable, Tony.
    You are lyiing. Read the OP, it is there. Get some help, cl;eary you need it. >>>


    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    So now you admit that there were no charges, but regard that as >>>irrelevant! You cannot even be consistent with your lies.
    You are a fool. That was you who wrote that, not me. Do get that help.

    Abuse gone.
    Abuse gone.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie? >>>>>>>>In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been >>>>>>>>pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman... >>>>>>Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is mightily >>>>>>ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it >>>>>>out
    all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has >>>>>>>been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently,
    That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant >>>>>>and
    extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who >>>>>>>are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then >>>>>>>prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.
    Abuse gone.

    There has been no further charge against Gharaman, and will not be.
    You have not been able to give any evidence to the contrary.
    I did not at any time say there was.
    I wrote that there was a complaint, and there was. Funny that. Do keep up.
    You have been, and are abusing yourself, Tony.
    That is something that you do, no doubt daily. Getting old are you?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 23 00:26:39 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 12:07:52 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash >>>>>>>>>>>>><nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you
    are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help
    having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>that
    Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>>>>>>>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that
    in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and >>>>>>>>>>>your
    lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you >>>>>>>>>>>also
    hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police were >>>>>involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, you >>>>>are
    thick!
    Yet again you make an unsupported assertion - without quoting any >>>>source for that claim. You are despicable, Tony.
    You are lyiing. Read the OP, it is there. Get some help, cl;eary you need it.



    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    So now you admit that there were no charges, but regard that as >>>>irrelevant! You cannot even be consistent with your lies.
    You are a fool. That was you who wrote that, not me. Do get that help.

    Abuse gone.
    Abuse gone.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>>>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie? >>>>>>>>>In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been >>>>>>>>>pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman... >>>>>>>Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is >>>>>>>mightily
    ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it >>>>>>>out
    all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has >>>>>>>>been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently, >>>>>>>That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant >>>>>>>and
    extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who >>>>>>>>are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then >>>>>>>>prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.
    Abuse gone.

    There has been no further charge against Gharaman, and will not be.
    You have not been able to give any evidence to the contrary.
    You have been, and are abusing yourself, Tony.


    Abuse goneThe truth about this case is starting to come through - >https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/privacy-commissioner-digs-into-golriz-ghahraman-shopping-incident/ATNGPRU6WFAADOR3GUA7HVKVE4/

    You may apologise now, Tony.
    Nothing to apologise for, everything I have written on the subject is accurate. But you should apologise for your lies and constant abuse but only a man would do that, not a wanker like you, you abusive childish cretin.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jan 23 13:36:06 2025
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:26:39 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 12:07:52 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash >>>>>>>>>>>>>><nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume you
    are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't help
    having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not >>>>>>>>>>>>>enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate that
    in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact and >>>>>>>>>>>>your
    lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you >>>>>>>>>>>>also
    hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police were
    involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, you >>>>>>are
    thick!
    Yet again you make an unsupported assertion - without quoting any >>>>>source for that claim. You are despicable, Tony.
    You are lyiing. Read the OP, it is there. Get some help, cl;eary you need it.



    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    So now you admit that there were no charges, but regard that as >>>>>irrelevant! You cannot even be consistent with your lies.
    You are a fool. That was you who wrote that, not me. Do get that help. >>>>>
    Abuse gone.
    Abuse gone.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>>>>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie? >>>>>>>>>>In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has been
    pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz Ghahraman...
    Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is >>>>>>>>mightily
    ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it >>>>>>>>out
    all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has >>>>>>>>>been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently, >>>>>>>>That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant >>>>>>>>and
    extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who >>>>>>>>>are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then >>>>>>>>>prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.
    Abuse gone.

    There has been no further charge against Gharaman, and will not be.
    You have not been able to give any evidence to the contrary.
    You have been, and are abusing yourself, Tony.


    Abuse goneThe truth about this case is starting to come through - >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/privacy-commissioner-digs-into-golriz-ghahraman-shopping-incident/ATNGPRU6WFAADOR3GUA7HVKVE4/

    You may apologise now, Tony.
    Nothing to apologise for, everything I have written on the subject is accurate.
    But you should apologise for your lies and constant abuse but only a man would >do that, not a wanker like you, you abusive childish cretin.
    Is it instinct or training that has you acting out "Double down and
    disclaim your own words", Tony?

    From the article:
    "The Herald has since revealed Foodstuffs, which owns Pak’nSave, did
    not directly complain to police but recorded the incident involving
    goods worth less than $150 into the Auror retail crime platform along
    with around 20,000 other incidents each year.

    It was also revealed police tried to introduce the allegation into
    Ghahraman’s High Court sentencing appeal over four shoplifting
    convictions in the weeks after it happened."

    You may not realise that the supermarket does not control the system;
    the police are now being investigated for breaking privacy rules to
    have accessed the footage before the court case - see: https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2025/01/how-is-this-legal.html

    So much for your allegation of a complaint . . .

    The Herald has since revealed Foodstuffs, which owns Pak’nSave, did
    not directly complain to police but recorded the incident involving
    goods worth less than $150 into the Auror retail crime platform along
    with around 20,000 other incidents each year.

    It was also revealed police tried to introduce the allegation into
    Ghahraman’s High Court sentencing appeal over four shoplifting
    convictions in the weeks after it happened.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 23 06:13:17 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:26:39 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 12:07:52 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume >>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>>>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>help
    having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not
    enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact >>>>>>>>>>>>>and
    your
    lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you >>>>>>>>>>>>>also
    hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police >>>>>>>were
    involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, >>>>>>>you
    are
    thick!
    Yet again you make an unsupported assertion - without quoting any >>>>>>source for that claim. You are despicable, Tony.
    You are lyiing. Read the OP, it is there. Get some help, cl;eary you need >>>>>it.



    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    So now you admit that there were no charges, but regard that as >>>>>>irrelevant! You cannot even be consistent with your lies.
    You are a fool. That was you who wrote that, not me. Do get that help. >>>>>>
    Abuse gone.
    Abuse gone.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>>>>>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie? >>>>>>>>>>>In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has >>>>>>>>>>>been
    pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz >>>>>>>>>>Ghahraman...
    Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is >>>>>>>>>mightily
    ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it >>>>>>>>>out
    all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has >>>>>>>>>>been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently, >>>>>>>>>That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant >>>>>>>>>and
    extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who >>>>>>>>>>are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then >>>>>>>>>>prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.
    Abuse gone.

    There has been no further charge against Gharaman, and will not be.
    You have not been able to give any evidence to the contrary.
    You have been, and are abusing yourself, Tony.


    Abuse goneThe truth about this case is starting to come through - >>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/privacy-commissioner-digs-into-golriz-ghahraman-shopping-incident/ATNGPRU6WFAADOR3GUA7HVKVE4/

    You may apologise now, Tony.
    Nothing to apologise for, everything I have written on the subject is >>accurate.
    But you should apologise for your lies and constant abuse but only a man >>would
    do that, not a wanker like you, you abusive childish cretin.
    Abuse gone.

    From the article:
    "The Herald has since revealed Foodstuffs, which owns Pak’nSave, did
    not directly complain to police but recorded the incident involving
    goods worth less than $150 into the Auror retail crime platform along
    with around 20,000 other incidents each year.

    It was also revealed police tried to introduce the allegation into >Ghahraman’s High Court sentencing appeal over four shoplifting
    convictions in the weeks after it happened."

    You may not realise that the supermarket does not control the system;
    the police are now being investigated for breaking privacy rules to
    have accessed the footage before the court case - see: >https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2025/01/how-is-this-legal.html

    So much for your allegation of a complaint . . .

    The Herald has since revealed Foodstuffs, which owns Pak’nSave, did
    not directly complain to police but recorded the incident involving
    goods worth less than $150 into the Auror retail crime platform along
    with around 20,000 other incidents each year.

    It was also revealed police tried to introduce the allegation into >Ghahraman’s High Court sentencing appeal over four shoplifting
    convictions in the weeks after it happened.
    Irrelevant. There was a complaint. At no time did I say that the police had laid a complaint. You mentioned the police, not me.
    You may apologise and piss off.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Jan 23 23:12:06 2025
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 06:13:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:26:39 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 12:07:52 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I presume >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>help
    having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently not
    enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact >>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
    your
    lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do you
    also
    hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police >>>>>>>>were
    involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, >>>>>>>>you
    are
    thick!
    Yet again you make an unsupported assertion - without quoting any >>>>>>>source for that claim. You are despicable, Tony.
    You are lyiing. Read the OP, it is there. Get some help, cl;eary you need >>>>>>it.



    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    So now you admit that there were no charges, but regard that as >>>>>>>irrelevant! You cannot even be consistent with your lies.
    You are a fool. That was you who wrote that, not me. Do get that help. >>>>>>>
    Abuse gone.
    Abuse gone.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>>>>>>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie? >>>>>>>>>>>>In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has >>>>>>>>>>>>been
    pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz >>>>>>>>>>>Ghahraman...
    Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is >>>>>>>>>>mightily
    ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked it
    out
    all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has >>>>>>>>>>>been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently, >>>>>>>>>>That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are irrelevant
    and
    extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who >>>>>>>>>>>are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint then
    prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.
    Abuse gone.

    There has been no further charge against Gharaman, and will not be. >>>>>You have not been able to give any evidence to the contrary.
    You have been, and are abusing yourself, Tony.


    Abuse goneThe truth about this case is starting to come through - >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/privacy-commissioner-digs-into-golriz-ghahraman-shopping-incident/ATNGPRU6WFAADOR3GUA7HVKVE4/

    You may apologise now, Tony.
    Nothing to apologise for, everything I have written on the subject is >>>accurate.
    But you should apologise for your lies and constant abuse but only a man >>>would
    do that, not a wanker like you, you abusive childish cretin.
    Abuse gone.

    From the article:
    "The Herald has since revealed Foodstuffs, which owns Pak’nSave, did
    not directly complain to police but recorded the incident involving
    goods worth less than $150 into the Auror retail crime platform along
    with around 20,000 other incidents each year.

    It was also revealed police tried to introduce the allegation into >>Ghahraman’s High Court sentencing appeal over four shoplifting
    convictions in the weeks after it happened."

    You may not realise that the supermarket does not control the system;
    the police are now being investigated for breaking privacy rules to
    have accessed the footage before the court case - see: >>https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2025/01/how-is-this-legal.html

    So much for your allegation of a complaint . . .

    The Herald has since revealed Foodstuffs, which owns Pak’nSave, did
    not directly complain to police but recorded the incident involving
    goods worth less than $150 into the Auror retail crime platform along
    with around 20,000 other incidents each year.

    It was also revealed police tried to introduce the allegation into >>Ghahraman’s High Court sentencing appeal over four shoplifting
    convictions in the weeks after it happened.
    Irrelevant. There was a complaint. At no time did I say that the police had >laid a complaint. You mentioned the police, not me.
    You may apologise and piss off.
    You have not shown that there was a complaint. The Supermarket denied
    making a complaint and the police confirmed they had not received a
    complaint. Why do you keep lying, Tony?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 23 19:29:40 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 06:13:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:26:39 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 12:07:52 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:01:30 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>>>>>>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:03:44 +1300, BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:47:59 +1300, Crash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><nogood@dontbother.invalid>
    wrote:

    Allegedly she has offended again - that is what is being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reported.


    --
    Crash McBash


    Maybe she can't help it.

    Bill.

    Evidently this thread is starting from scratch again - I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>presume
    you
    are referring to the allegation about Tony and her anti-social >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>behaviour - we do not need to talk about that here - she can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>help
    having a low IQ and pretending to be male; I agree with you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bill
    that
    Tony can't help it, but a total lack of evidence is apparently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not
    enough to quell speculation, and Crash is usually more accurate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    in his quote above.
    Oh you poor wee boy. There was a complaint laid, that is a fact >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
    your
    lying,
    abuse and hatred of women and homophobia will not help you. Do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    also
    hate
    jews and black people?
    No complaint was made to the police
    Ah, you have changed your position. It matters not whether the police >>>>>>>>>were
    involved. A complaintb was, in fact, made. Read the article - sheesh, >>>>>>>>>you
    are
    thick!
    Yet again you make an unsupported assertion - without quoting any >>>>>>>>source for that claim. You are despicable, Tony.
    You are lyiing. Read the OP, it is there. Get some help, cl;eary you >>>>>>>need
    it.



    - there were no charges, and there
    will be no charges.
    Irrelevant see above.
    So now you admit that there were no charges, but regard that as >>>>>>>>irrelevant! You cannot even be consistent with your lies.
    You are a fool. That was you who wrote that, not me. Do get that help. >>>>>>>>
    Abuse gone.
    Abuse gone.



    No complaint was laid. I have not made a complaint about your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>incorrect, unsupported and unjustified assertions.
    A complaint was made that she stole. That is fact - why do you lie?
    In fact why do you breathe, after all your life is and always has >>>>>>>>>>>>>been
    pointless.
    You are irrelevant.
    "She" is the cat's mother. If you are talking about Golriz >>>>>>>>>>>>Ghahraman...
    Abuse gone
    Your mother has little to do with this although I imagine she is >>>>>>>>>>>mightily
    ashamed of you.
    Don't be silly. You know who I was referring to, in fact you worked >>>>>>>>>>>it
    out
    all
    by yourself -well done little boy.

    Golriz Gharaman was found guilty of shoplifting a year ago, and has >>>>>>>>>>>>been punished for that. There has been no complaint recently, >>>>>>>>>>>That is a lie - read the OP. There was a complaint. You are >>>>>>>>>>>irrelevant
    and
    extremely rude. Now, piss off little boy.
    just
    disgraceful slurs and suggestions from nasty and ignorant people who
    are politically motivated. If you believe there was a complaint >>>>>>>>>>>>then
    prove it . . . .
    abuse gone.
    off topic gone.
    Abuse gone.

    There has been no further charge against Gharaman, and will not be. >>>>>>You have not been able to give any evidence to the contrary.
    You have been, and are abusing yourself, Tony.


    Abuse goneThe truth about this case is starting to come through - >>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/privacy-commissioner-digs-into-golriz-ghahraman-shopping-incident/ATNGPRU6WFAADOR3GUA7HVKVE4/

    You may apologise now, Tony.
    Nothing to apologise for, everything I have written on the subject is >>>>accurate.
    But you should apologise for your lies and constant abuse but only a man >>>>would
    do that, not a wanker like you, you abusive childish cretin.
    Abuse gone.

    From the article:
    "The Herald has since revealed Foodstuffs, which owns Pak’nSave, did
    not directly complain to police but recorded the incident involving
    goods worth less than $150 into the Auror retail crime platform along >>>with around 20,000 other incidents each year.

    It was also revealed police tried to introduce the allegation into >>>Ghahraman’s High Court sentencing appeal over four shoplifting >>>convictions in the weeks after it happened."

    You may not realise that the supermarket does not control the system;
    the police are now being investigated for breaking privacy rules to
    have accessed the footage before the court case - see: >>>https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2025/01/how-is-this-legal.html

    So much for your allegation of a complaint . . .

    The Herald has since revealed Foodstuffs, which owns Pak’nSave, did
    not directly complain to police but recorded the incident involving
    goods worth less than $150 into the Auror retail crime platform along >>>with around 20,000 other incidents each year.

    It was also revealed police tried to introduce the allegation into >>>Ghahraman’s High Court sentencing appeal over four shoplifting >>>convictions in the weeks after it happened.
    Irrelevant. There was a complaint. At no time did I say that the police had >>laid a complaint. You mentioned the police, not me.
    You may apologise and piss off.
    You have not shown that there was a complaint. The Supermarket denied
    making a complaint and the police confirmed they had not received a >complaint.
    Abuse gone
    I don't need to show anything, Read the OP - that is the only reference I have used. If you disagree with the article then take it up with them.
    You have the maturity of a mentally backward tadpole.

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