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    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 27 06:51:57 2025
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    or just a rort.
    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/2025_kauri_trees
    It certainly is not justified and it certainly will not help the trees.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Mon Jan 27 21:37:10 2025
    On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 06:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    or just a rort.
    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/2025_kauri_trees
    It certainly is not justified and it certainly will not help the trees.

    It certainly is a bizarre story! Apparently there was a story a few
    months earlier, but I was not able to see that one - if you have the
    link I would appreciate it.

    They now say they have got to the bottom of it, but then say they are
    being refused more detail on the cost. $4 million is a huge amount of
    money! - not as expensive as the Treaty Bill that has just started
    Select Committee hearing , but definitely worth pursuing.

    To have a Registered Charity making such payments suggests there may
    be more surprises in store; but it is not clear that is a charitable organisation - Te Tira Whakamataki Limited sounds more like a limited
    liability company. Very strange - does the NZ Taxpayer Union have the
    right person investigating this one? Such obvious discrepancies may
    be part of why they are not getting traction in main-stream media.

    Then there is the even more startling request to assist the NZ
    Taxpayer Union with more money to help them find out more - but surely
    all they need to do is ask? The current government have made
    statements about being very supportive about departments giving
    information asked through Freedom of Information requests, and the NZ
    Taxpayer Union is hardly short of either money or the ability to make
    contact with Ministers! - for MBIE they have a choice of getting
    Nicola Willis - all they have to do is draft a suitable letter to the
    Minister so it can be passed to MBIE with a "please explain!"

    So there is more than one aspect that is clearly bizarre, Tony. Well
    done on spotting it and posting about it.

    If you do find out more, do let us know . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 27 19:20:13 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 06:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    or just a rort.
    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/2025_kauri_trees
    It certainly is not justified and it certainly will not help the trees.

    It certainly is a bizarre story! Apparently there was a story a few
    months earlier, but I was not able to see that one - if you have the
    link I would appreciate it.

    They now say they have got to the bottom of it, but then say they are
    being refused more detail on the cost. $4 million is a huge amount of
    money! - not as expensive as the Treaty Bill that has just started
    Select Committee hearing , but definitely worth pursuing.

    To have a Registered Charity making such payments suggests there may
    be more surprises in store; but it is not clear that is a charitable >organisation - Te Tira Whakamataki Limited sounds more like a limited >liability company.
    It is very clear that they are a registered charity. Took me 15 seconds to check.
    There are many limited liability companies that are charities, and a very large number of chariities are companies. The exceptions are societies and charitable trusts.
    Maybe you should learn to use Google, it is moderately worthwhile.
    Very strange - does the NZ Taxpayer Union have the
    right person investigating this one? Such obvious discrepancies may
    be part of why they are not getting traction in main-stream media.
    So far they got it right, why do you ask such a silly question? Nothing strange here apart from the waste of money.

    Then there is the even more startling request to assist the NZ
    Taxpayer Union with more money to help them find out more - but surely
    all they need to do is ask?
    Talk about bizarre, that is a worse than bizarre statement. The TPU are funded by ordinary people.
    Off topic.

    Off topic.

    Clearly you agree it is a waste of taxpayer's money - so why do you have to use absurd abusive sarcasm?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 27 23:14:22 2025
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 19:20:13 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 06:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    or just a rort.
    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/2025_kauri_trees
    It certainly is not justified and it certainly will not help the trees.

    It certainly is a bizarre story! Apparently there was a story a few >>>months earlier, but I was not able to see that one - if you have the
    link I would appreciate it.

    They now say they have got to the bottom of it, but then say they are >>>being refused more detail on the cost. $4 million is a huge amount of >>>money! - not as expensive as the Treaty Bill that has just started
    Select Committee hearing , but definitely worth pursuing.

    To have a Registered Charity making such payments suggests there may
    be more surprises in store; but it is not clear that is a charitable >>>organisation - Te Tira Whakamataki Limited sounds more like a limited >>>liability company.
    It is very clear that they are a registered charity. Took me 15 seconds to >>check.
    There are many limited liability companies that are charities, and a very >>large number of chariities are companies. The exceptions are societies and >>charitable trusts.
    Maybe you should learn to use Google, it is moderately worthwhile.
    Very strange - does the NZ Taxpayer Union have the
    right person investigating this one? Such obvious discrepancies may
    be part of why they are not getting traction in main-stream media.
    So far they got it right, why do you ask such a silly question? Nothing >>strange
    here apart from the waste of money.

    Then there is the even more startling request to assist the NZ
    Taxpayer Union with more money to help them find out more - but surely >>>all they need to do is ask?
    Talk about bizarre, that is a worse than bizarre statement. The TPU are >>funded
    by ordinary people.
    Off topic.

    Off topic.

    Clearly you agree it is a waste of taxpayer's money - so why do you have to >>use
    absurd abusive sarcasm?
    I don't know enough about it
    Then why did you post such abusive nonsense?
    A simple search would have found everything you needed to show what a waste of money this is.
    - the NZ Taxpayers Union don't appear to
    have asked before rushing to print
    They published the story months ago, no rush by them. And they have showed that the monsy is wasted. What else do you need to know?
    - but then they are a propaganda /
    political financing organisation, not journalists
    Just like you and yet you post bullshit all the time.
    They are doing what they promissed to do, hold the government to account. You should try it, it is called honesty.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Tue Jan 28 11:20:44 2025
    On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 19:20:13 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 06:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    or just a rort.
    https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/2025_kauri_trees
    It certainly is not justified and it certainly will not help the trees.

    It certainly is a bizarre story! Apparently there was a story a few
    months earlier, but I was not able to see that one - if you have the
    link I would appreciate it.

    They now say they have got to the bottom of it, but then say they are
    being refused more detail on the cost. $4 million is a huge amount of >>money! - not as expensive as the Treaty Bill that has just started
    Select Committee hearing , but definitely worth pursuing.

    To have a Registered Charity making such payments suggests there may
    be more surprises in store; but it is not clear that is a charitable >>organisation - Te Tira Whakamataki Limited sounds more like a limited >>liability company.
    It is very clear that they are a registered charity. Took me 15 seconds to >check.
    There are many limited liability companies that are charities, and a very >large number of chariities are companies. The exceptions are societies and >charitable trusts.
    Maybe you should learn to use Google, it is moderately worthwhile.
    Very strange - does the NZ Taxpayer Union have the
    right person investigating this one? Such obvious discrepancies may
    be part of why they are not getting traction in main-stream media.
    So far they got it right, why do you ask such a silly question? Nothing strange
    here apart from the waste of money.

    Then there is the even more startling request to assist the NZ
    Taxpayer Union with more money to help them find out more - but surely
    all they need to do is ask?
    Talk about bizarre, that is a worse than bizarre statement. The TPU are funded >by ordinary people.
    Off topic.

    Off topic.

    Clearly you agree it is a waste of taxpayer's money - so why do you have to use
    absurd abusive sarcasm?
    I don't know enough about it - the NZ Taxpayers Union don't appear to
    have asked before rushing to print - but then they are a propaganda /
    political financing organisation, not journalists . . .

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