https://x.com/2eteka/status/1884099476803183093?t=PwhFa8r_EXzr7yVCifHK-A&mx=2
"Holyhekatuiteka
@2ETEKA
? Winston Peters drops HUGE hint,
Goodbye climate change hello political climate change.
WP says Trump is already having impact globally “Trump is completely right and >correct” on Gender and biology unlike the other mentally confused politicians.
Then when asked about Trump exiting the Paris Accord WP says :
“If China India Russia United States aren’t in it then why are we draining our >economy to pay 32 billion to another economy? We will run ourselves broke and >that is not an answer”
All 3 leaders have hinted on future policies they will campaign on, two >choosing neoliberal globalism, one staying with Populism.
Luxon - Privatisation & asset sales
Seymour - Privatisation & asset sales
Peters - Economic & civic Nationalism
Pick your player."
Good to see Winston starting to remind the voters how go woke, go broke >works.
Think what 32 billion dollars could achieve in say Health and education.
On 29 Jan 2025 02:44:34 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
https://x.com/2eteka/status/1884099476803183093?t=PwhFa8r_EXzr7yVCifHK-A&mx=2 >>
"Holyhekatuiteka
@2ETEKA
? Winston Peters drops HUGE hint,
Goodbye climate change hello political climate change.
WP says Trump is already having impact globally “Trump is completely right and
correct” on Gender and biology unlike the other mentally confused politicians.
Then when asked about Trump exiting the Paris Accord WP says :
“If China India Russia United States aren’t in it then why are we draining our
economy to pay 32 billion to another economy? We will run ourselves broke and >>that is not an answer”
All 3 leaders have hinted on future policies they will campaign on, two >>choosing neoliberal globalism, one staying with Populism.
Luxon - Privatisation & asset sales
Seymour - Privatisation & asset sales
Peters - Economic & civic Nationalism
Pick your player."
Good to see Winston starting to remind the voters how go woke, go broke >>works.
Think what 32 billion dollars could achieve in say Health and education.
Correct. Even if Climate Change is caused by humans, the proportion
of that attributed to NZ is so microscopically small that we do not
count. Put simply, it does not matter what NZ does to mitigate
human-caused climate change, it will happen anyway. We can have the
best mitigation of climate change in place but the weather bombs will
keep coming because climate change will continue.
Having said that Winston Peters is pontificating not because he is
correct but because this is his modus operandi - show time folks, roll
up and vote Winston.
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 20:03:40 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>You keep saying that but you have never identified any binding agreement that applies. Care to do so?
wrote:
On 29 Jan 2025 02:44:34 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
https://x.com/2eteka/status/1884099476803183093?t=PwhFa8r_EXzr7yVCifHK-A&mx=2
"Holyhekatuiteka
@2ETEKA
? Winston Peters drops HUGE hint,
Goodbye climate change hello political climate change.
WP says Trump is already having impact globally “Trump is completely right >>>and
correct” on Gender and biology unlike the other mentally confused >>>politicians.
Then when asked about Trump exiting the Paris Accord WP says :
“If China India Russia United States aren’t in it then why are we draining >>>our
economy to pay 32 billion to another economy? We will run ourselves broke >>>and
that is not an answer”
All 3 leaders have hinted on future policies they will campaign on, two >>>choosing neoliberal globalism, one staying with Populism.
Luxon - Privatisation & asset sales
Seymour - Privatisation & asset sales
Peters - Economic & civic Nationalism
Pick your player."
Good to see Winston starting to remind the voters how go woke, go broke >>>works.
Think what 32 billion dollars could achieve in say Health and education.
Correct. Even if Climate Change is caused by humans, the proportion
of that attributed to NZ is so microscopically small that we do not
count. Put simply, it does not matter what NZ does to mitigate >>human-caused climate change, it will happen anyway. We can have the
best mitigation of climate change in place but the weather bombs will
keep coming because climate change will continue.
Two problems with that - first if we abandon actions relating to
climate change that is reneging on an international agreement
- it is
possible that the USA under Trump would not care, but other countries
may just stop trading with us - how would you feel about China, or the
EU for example deciding to make an example of New Zealand on those
grounds?
The second one is that following Trump may not be the best idea for
gaining support at the next election to remain in power . . . - some
will say there is no chance of that . . .
Having said that Winston Peters is pontificating not because he is
correct but because this is his modus operandi - show time folks, roll
up and vote Winston.
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No answer to that possibility, Tony?
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 20:03:40 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:You keep saying that but you have never identified any binding agreement that >applies. Care to do so?
On 29 Jan 2025 02:44:34 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
Correct. Even if Climate Change is caused by humans, the proportionhttps://x.com/2eteka/status/1884099476803183093?t=PwhFa8r_EXzr7yVCifHK-A&mx=2
"Holyhekatuiteka
@2ETEKA
? Winston Peters drops HUGE hint,
Goodbye climate change hello political climate change.
WP says Trump is already having impact globally “Trump is completely right >>>>and
correct” on Gender and biology unlike the other mentally confused >>>>politicians.
Then when asked about Trump exiting the Paris Accord WP says :
“If China India Russia United States aren’t in it then why are we draining >>>>our
economy to pay 32 billion to another economy? We will run ourselves broke >>>>and
that is not an answer”
All 3 leaders have hinted on future policies they will campaign on, two >>>>choosing neoliberal globalism, one staying with Populism.
Luxon - Privatisation & asset sales
Seymour - Privatisation & asset sales
Peters - Economic & civic Nationalism
Pick your player."
Good to see Winston starting to remind the voters how go woke, go broke >>>>works.
Think what 32 billion dollars could achieve in say Health and education. >>>
of that attributed to NZ is so microscopically small that we do not >>>count. Put simply, it does not matter what NZ does to mitigate >>>human-caused climate change, it will happen anyway. We can have the
best mitigation of climate change in place but the weather bombs will >>>keep coming because climate change will continue.
Two problems with that - first if we abandon actions relating to
climate change that is reneging on an international agreement
- it is
possible that the USA under Trump would not care, but other countries
may just stop trading with us - how would you feel about China, or the
EU for example deciding to make an example of New Zealand on those
grounds?
The second one is that following Trump may not be the best idea for
gaining support at the next election to remain in power . . . - some
will say there is no chance of that . . .
Having said that Winston Peters is pontificating not because he is >>>correct but because this is his modus operandi - show time folks, roll
up and vote Winston.
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 19:15:10 -0000 (UTC), TonyNone required. It is an absurd example of your mysterious thought processes.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:No answer to that possibility, Tony?
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 20:03:40 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:You keep saying that but you have never identified any binding agreement that >>applies. Care to do so?
On 29 Jan 2025 02:44:34 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
Correct. Even if Climate Change is caused by humans, the proportionhttps://x.com/2eteka/status/1884099476803183093?t=PwhFa8r_EXzr7yVCifHK-A&mx=2
"Holyhekatuiteka
@2ETEKA
? Winston Peters drops HUGE hint,
Goodbye climate change hello political climate change.
WP says Trump is already having impact globally “Trump is completely right >>>>>and
correct” on Gender and biology unlike the other mentally confused >>>>>politicians.
Then when asked about Trump exiting the Paris Accord WP says :
“If China India Russia United States aren’t in it then why are we draining >>>>>our
economy to pay 32 billion to another economy? We will run ourselves broke >>>>>and
that is not an answer”
All 3 leaders have hinted on future policies they will campaign on, two >>>>>choosing neoliberal globalism, one staying with Populism.
Luxon - Privatisation & asset sales
Seymour - Privatisation & asset sales
Peters - Economic & civic Nationalism
Pick your player."
Good to see Winston starting to remind the voters how go woke, go broke >>>>>works.
Think what 32 billion dollars could achieve in say Health and education. >>>>
of that attributed to NZ is so microscopically small that we do not >>>>count. Put simply, it does not matter what NZ does to mitigate >>>>human-caused climate change, it will happen anyway. We can have the >>>>best mitigation of climate change in place but the weather bombs will >>>>keep coming because climate change will continue.
Two problems with that - first if we abandon actions relating to
climate change that is reneging on an international agreement
- it is
possible that the USA under Trump would not care, but other countries
may just stop trading with us - how would you feel about China, or the
EU for example deciding to make an example of New Zealand on those >>>grounds?
The second one is that following Trump may not be the best idea for >>>gaining support at the next election to remain in power . . . - some
will say there is no chance of that . . .
Having said that Winston Peters is pontificating not because he is >>>>correct but because this is his modus operandi - show time folks, roll >>>>up and vote Winston.
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 20:03:40 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:
On 29 Jan 2025 02:44:34 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
https://x.com/2eteka/status/1884099476803183093?t=PwhFa8r_EXzr7yVCifHK-A&mx=2
"Holyhekatuiteka
@2ETEKA
? Winston Peters drops HUGE hint,
Goodbye climate change hello political climate change.
WP says Trump is already having impact globally “Trump is completely right and
correct” on Gender and biology unlike the other mentally confused politicians.
Then when asked about Trump exiting the Paris Accord WP says :
“If China India Russia United States aren’t in it then why are we draining our
economy to pay 32 billion to another economy? We will run ourselves broke and
that is not an answer”
All 3 leaders have hinted on future policies they will campaign on, two >>>choosing neoliberal globalism, one staying with Populism.
Luxon - Privatisation & asset sales
Seymour - Privatisation & asset sales
Peters - Economic & civic Nationalism
Pick your player."
Good to see Winston starting to remind the voters how go woke, go broke >>>works.
Think what 32 billion dollars could achieve in say Health and education.
Correct. Even if Climate Change is caused by humans, the proportion
of that attributed to NZ is so microscopically small that we do not
count. Put simply, it does not matter what NZ does to mitigate >>human-caused climate change, it will happen anyway. We can have the
best mitigation of climate change in place but the weather bombs will
keep coming because climate change will continue.
Two problems with that - first if we abandon actions relating to
climate change that is reneging on an international agreement - it is >possible that the USA under Trump would not care, but other countries
may just stop trading with us - how would you feel about China, or the
EU for example deciding to make an example of New Zealand on those
grounds?
The second one is that following Trump may not be the best idea for
gaining support at the next election to remain in power . . . - some
will say there is no chance of that . . .
Having said that Winston Peters is pontificating not because he is
correct but because this is his modus operandi - show time folks, roll
up and vote Winston.
Northern Hemisphere countries, not just China and the EU group, are in
no position to dictate to us on climate change issues. We will suffer
the consequences of their polluting activity with weather bombs etc.
no matter what we do or do not do..
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 22:08:02 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>We are not in the same position as the USA - they have a much larger
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 20:03:40 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>wrote:In respect of reneging on international agreements, many countries do
On 29 Jan 2025 02:44:34 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
Correct. Even if Climate Change is caused by humans, the proportionhttps://x.com/2eteka/status/1884099476803183093?t=PwhFa8r_EXzr7yVCifHK-A&mx=2
"Holyhekatuiteka
@2ETEKA
? Winston Peters drops HUGE hint,
Goodbye climate change hello political climate change.
WP says Trump is already having impact globally “Trump is completely right and
correct” on Gender and biology unlike the other mentally confused politicians.
Then when asked about Trump exiting the Paris Accord WP says :
“If China India Russia United States aren’t in it then why are we draining our
economy to pay 32 billion to another economy? We will run ourselves broke and
that is not an answer”
All 3 leaders have hinted on future policies they will campaign on, two >>>>choosing neoliberal globalism, one staying with Populism.
Luxon - Privatisation & asset sales
Seymour - Privatisation & asset sales
Peters - Economic & civic Nationalism
Pick your player."
Good to see Winston starting to remind the voters how go woke, go broke >>>>works.
Think what 32 billion dollars could achieve in say Health and education. >>>
of that attributed to NZ is so microscopically small that we do not >>>count. Put simply, it does not matter what NZ does to mitigate >>>human-caused climate change, it will happen anyway. We can have the
best mitigation of climate change in place but the weather bombs will >>>keep coming because climate change will continue.
Two problems with that - first if we abandon actions relating to
climate change that is reneging on an international agreement - it is >>possible that the USA under Trump would not care, but other countries
may just stop trading with us - how would you feel about China, or the
EU for example deciding to make an example of New Zealand on those
grounds?
this when there is a change of direction from a new incoming
Government. The USA under Trump's leadership will probably be the
most recent and extreme example. If the USA can arbitrarily exit the
Paris accord, so can we.
Northern Hemisphere countries, not just China and the EU group, are inAbsolutely - and as we now know those effects are likely to be
no position to dictate to us on climate change issues. We will suffer
the consequences of their polluting activity with weather bombs etc.
no matter what we do or do not do..
I was referring to our ostensible Prime Minister going along withThe second one is that following Trump may not be the best idea for
gaining support at the next election to remain in power . . . - some
will say there is no chance of that . . .
Why on earth will the 2028 Presidential election in the USA be of any >relevance to this?
Having said that Winston Peters is pontificating not because he is >>>correct but because this is his modus operandi - show time folks, roll
up and vote Winston.
On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 16:47:45 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>You have not shown any reason why they should do so as a result of our actions on this matter (whatever they are in the future). You are guessing.
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 22:08:02 +1300, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> >>wrote:We are not in the same position as the USA - they have a much larger
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 20:03:40 +1300, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> >>>wrote:In respect of reneging on international agreements, many countries do
On 29 Jan 2025 02:44:34 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
Correct. Even if Climate Change is caused by humans, the proportionhttps://x.com/2eteka/status/1884099476803183093?t=PwhFa8r_EXzr7yVCifHK-A&mx=2
"Holyhekatuiteka
@2ETEKA
? Winston Peters drops HUGE hint,
Goodbye climate change hello political climate change.
WP says Trump is already having impact globally “Trump is completely right >>>>>and
correct” on Gender and biology unlike the other mentally confused >>>>>politicians.
Then when asked about Trump exiting the Paris Accord WP says :
“If China India Russia United States aren’t in it then why are we draining >>>>>our
economy to pay 32 billion to another economy? We will run ourselves broke >>>>>and
that is not an answer”
All 3 leaders have hinted on future policies they will campaign on, two >>>>>choosing neoliberal globalism, one staying with Populism.
Luxon - Privatisation & asset sales
Seymour - Privatisation & asset sales
Peters - Economic & civic Nationalism
Pick your player."
Good to see Winston starting to remind the voters how go woke, go broke >>>>>works.
Think what 32 billion dollars could achieve in say Health and education. >>>>
of that attributed to NZ is so microscopically small that we do not >>>>count. Put simply, it does not matter what NZ does to mitigate >>>>human-caused climate change, it will happen anyway. We can have the >>>>best mitigation of climate change in place but the weather bombs will >>>>keep coming because climate change will continue.
Two problems with that - first if we abandon actions relating to
climate change that is reneging on an international agreement - it is >>>possible that the USA under Trump would not care, but other countries
may just stop trading with us - how would you feel about China, or the
EU for example deciding to make an example of New Zealand on those >>>grounds?
this when there is a change of direction from a new incoming
Government. The USA under Trump's leadership will probably be the
most recent and extreme example. If the USA can arbitrarily exit the
Paris accord, so can we.
domestic economy, and has been shown can play with threats regarding
imports from other countries to get them to toe the MAGA line. We are
not in a position to negotiate - if a country declines to buy from us
there is little we can do . . .
Irrelevant.Absolutely - and as we now know those effects are likely to be
Northern Hemisphere countries, not just China and the EU group, are in
no position to dictate to us on climate change issues. We will suffer
the consequences of their polluting activity with weather bombs etc.
no matter what we do or do not do..
world-wide and indiscriminate, but that is why I used the example :
"how would you feel about China, or the EU for example deciding to
make an example of New Zealand on those grounds?"
He is not and they are not doing that.I was referring to our ostensible Prime Minister going along with
The second one is that following Trump may not be the best idea for >>>gaining support at the next election to remain in power . . . - some
will say there is no chance of that . . .
Why on earth will the 2028 Presidential election in the USA be of any >>relevance to this?
inherent racism from ACT and NZ First
- his feeble protests justA new topic, why don't you start one?
emphasise his lack of authority; similarly he will go along with more >pollution from the other two coalition party policies, as well as the
nutty proposals to direct a bigger percentage of profits on NZ
products going to overseas owners. Some in National are getting
concerned that ACT and NZ First are gaining support from different
groups of die-hard nutters, and ultimately that they will take away >sufficient of the National Vote that they may lose the next New
Zealand election.
Having said that Winston Peters is pontificating not because he is >>>>correct but because this is his modus operandi - show time folks, roll >>>>up and vote Winston.
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